Who else /wantstoroidbutisafraid/ here?
Started lifting 4 years ago at a vastly underweight, nearly anorexic 55kg. Years later and after a couple bulks, I'm now 76kg fairly lean, and it's still not enough for me. I still look average. I have to break 80+ lean to look good, which means another bulk, another cut, more time...
I'm so goddamn tired of having the work ethic, the dedication, dieting, and still looking worse than roidmonkeys in my gym who barely know what they're doing. Jesus Christ.
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same my guy, whats the absolute worst outcome?
You only live once :)
If you still look average after 4 years of lifting, steroids aren’t going to help you. You sound like you have no idea what you’re doing, and steroids aren’t magically make you huge.
I would start roiding right this second if I had a source and somebody knowledgeable to help me plan a cycle. I haven't bothered reading much about it yet. I was hoping somebody at the gym would try to sell me gear, but that doesn't happen in real life
He probably hit his genetic limit.
I started out really skinny as well. Have been lifting for several years now and I still look quite average at 75 kg 6'0. I have been at 80 kg for a small period where I actually looked pretty big, but I was only able to maintain that size for a few months while also being lean, and it took way more time than I was willing to use.
I have basically accepted that I will only ever look somewhat athletic.
you could test this theory by doing one cycle, just be aware that it's not easy to stop once you've started; it's a strange drug that not only makes you feel better but actually makes you visibly better—you get addicted to the way people look at you and treat you
Don't really wanna get huge but I'd take all sorts of doping were it cheaper and cycles checked out by professionals. I was on clen for a while and my bilirubin went up. Not too high really but it still gave me a scare.
Not worth it imo unless you've got someone really competent there with you. Of course you can self-educate but only so far.
I've always been curious about trying a TRT like cycle. Almost like an optimization cycle. I'm currently I'm around 680 test natty.
I'm currious what it would be like around 900-1000. Might wait unitl I'm in my 30's so my natty level is a bit lower.
I'm a lanklet. I've got a long way to go before I think about roiding but I can see it happening one day. I'm a 6'2 framelet so my natty limit is not going to be great. I'm already fantasising about jumping on gear and becoming a huge fucker that smashes thots morning, noon and night
Same. I already have sperm frozen and are a medfag so I’m knowledgeable about how to use it. If somebody offered me it I’d jump on the fraud train.
>Who else /wantstoroidbutisafraid/ here?
Me. Always told myself I wouldn't let myself roid until I was 30. Turning 29 soon...
Nope. And it’s weird to think people would want to unless their goals are in bodybuilding, mr Olympia, or physical sports. If you’re just an average bloke why bother? Personally, (as a recovering skelly), The effort and amount of psychological pep talks I put myself through to get where I’m at today will always outweigh a desire to take the needle.
>inb4 post body
ITS NOT READY YET REEE-
>If you’re just an average bloke why bother?
Because all the "average blokes" around you you're directly competing with in terms of looks are already doing it and not trying to rationalize a way to stay smaller.
>i i i i i i
>let let
>here's my height
>fantasizing
please dont do drugs just go back to Jow Forumsbraincels or lookism forums
manlet detected
go back
>competing with in terms of looks
You’re fighting the wrong fight
Felt this way before I got my diet on track. After 2 years lifting, had a source so I was considering hoping on of I could get my body fat below 10%, to minimize gyno and prove I had the self control/discipline to handle it.
Once I got to 10%, was aesthetic enough for all intents and purposes besides impressing dudes on the internet. Desire to roid eliminated.
But TRT at 40, definitely
Here is some motivation for you twinks
I'm not afraid. I'm just a NEET with a home gym who wouldn't know where to get them in the first place.
Also this. Roids don't break the ceiling on your maximum potential, they just help you reach it exponentially faster and with a fraction of the effort.
If you've hit your natty genetic limit and aren't ugly/a manlet, imo 99.99% women will definitely be attracted to you. What is the incentive to roid if you're not playing a sport/bodybuilding competitively/etc? Does it help your cognitive abilities at all? That's the only reason I lift in the first place, increases consistent mental energy and completely removes brain fog. If roids increased that I'd go on a cycle
go back
>they just help you reach it exponentially faster and with a fraction of the effort.
Stop perpertuating this fucking lie you dumbshit. It's actually harmful.
When you say this shit, it implies you can get the same results naturally anyway, roids just get you there FASTER. This is absolutely fucking disgustingly untrue.
Don't spread misinformation online. Retards like you create body dismorphia.
Normies aren't really impressed by people who obviously take roids, if that's what you're looking for. You need to carefully toe the line between ripped/roided. Not that hte majority of normies can tell whether a guy is on a cycle or not, but your pic is so obvious.
>When you say this shit, it implies you can get the same results naturally anyway, roids just get you there FASTER. This is absolutely fucking disgustingly untrue.
It's not untrue, though. It's just unrealistic to do so because it takes a lifetime of dedication.
It is untrue you fucking monkey retard. A natural will never, ever, have the same body as Mr. Olympia who is on everything humanly possible. There will never be a natural Larry Wheels.
Fucking educate yourself before you say this shit. You're absolute cancer when you spread bullshit like this. It actually makes me angry.
it's not true at all lol
having more test in your body will give you a base increase in muscle even if you just played fortnite all day regardless of your current training level
>Normies aren't really impressed by people who obviously take roids
The issue here is that it's not always obvious to normies who takes roids. To someone who's been lifting natty for years it might be obvious, but to a typical normie the only people they think roid are Ahnold-size bodybuilders and they probably think professional athletes are all natty.
Hell most people I know thought Dwayne Johnson was natty until I called them out on it.
Literally HOW fucking brain dead are most of you that you don't know how to get steroids. If you know how to Google you know how to get roids.
Man the fuck up and stick that needle in your ass that makes you feel like a real man
FUCK that shit, everywhere i come people are jawdropping especially normies like you
I just want to be fucking biggest looking mofo everywhere i come
roids do break the ceiling on your maximum potential though, people use steroids to go beyond their natural limit constantly
> potato arms
Good job monkey.
>The issue here is that it's not always obvious to normies who takes roids.
No doubt, I was just saying that the guy in the pic looks obviously on gear even to the average non lifting normie.
The average normie only knows about roids from sports generally, where the narrative is "if you inject yourself you'll immediately become huge with no effort." In their minds taking roids is almost completely separate from lifting. Obviously I'm generalizing, but that's what many seriously believe.
sorry master but not everyone's a pleb like you
i move around / work in higher social circles where looking like a balloon animal, not even mentioning not being able to put on more sophisticated clothes than what you wear in this pic, is generally frowned upon
also dying in your 40s as well
non plebs prefer athletic look over backne and dickskin, and longevity with good health is also an ideal thing here
No the number of muscle nuclei is permanently increased, and they also have positive effects lasting at least several years on the satellite cells which add nuclei to muscle fibers.
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>Roids don't break the ceiling on your maximum potential
lmao this is exactly what I don't want to happen
Always better than your 11 inch noodle arms
LMAO FUCKING TWINK
>i move around / work in higher social circles
>on Jow Forums
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
Don't worry that will never happen with your shit genetics lmao
>pleb cope
you are aware there are websites (extremely accessible and professional, not weird dark web shit) that sell all forms of roids and sarms, and multiple forums and messageboards with customer review to know who you should trust and shit. I'm pretty certain you could literally type "buy steroids" on a search engine in your country and find a cheap, reliable source.
There's a pretty much linear relationship between total amount of gear taken and size gained. You won't get "too huge" unless you deliberately take that much drugs like that monkey.
How and why did this attention whore convince himself that bigger = always better?
The only thing he ever does is show up randomly craving attention, people tell him he looks disgusting, and he starts mass replying "LMAO HAHAHAHA IM BIG U SMALL HAHAH"
Is he retarded? This shit has been going on for way too long now, it's like a fucking bot.
All roids die befo-
logarithmic* whups
what? so all of them then. 100% of men, on this planet, but me, are on steroids?
>smoking is healthy my dad smoked 2 packs a day, everyday and lived up to 82
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Not hating on you, I get that you like to play the heel, but getting to 61 years of age is hardly something to brag about. The only people who have a hard time reaching that are obese people, generally.
what are you trying to accomplish? I've seen you in like 10 threads today, just throwing your pathetic dyel insults for no reason at random people, contributing nothing to the thread.
Is this supposed to be like a raid or something? or do you just get a rush out of saying bad words without getting grounded?
I can't even imagine how you roidloids sit on your computer. That shit must look weird as fuck. Especially on a smaller laptop.
This
I have friends who had a ton of career/personal potential, hit a tiny bit of adversity, started roiding and now are completely retarded like . They ignore any sort of responsibility now, get lots of low-mid quality women, and can only talk about how they're bigger than everyone else in a given room they enter. They'll almost 100% be broke+even more depressed in a couple years. It's fucking sad, roids can be a legitimate means to an end, but is your end worth it?
BECAUSE that is the fucking truth, you fucking naïeve dyel cuc.k
BIGGER IS BETTER. Nobody takes you seriously because you a TWINK. People will run the fuck over you. I will get instant respect everywhere i come
twinks like you suck my dick irl
BTFO
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Smoking and drinking is more harmful to the body than steroids.
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>Not hating on you,
Don't worry your dyel existence has little effect on me
more cope from the copemaster
Why lift if it’s all about the face?
>hand dryer at chest level
>good genetics
pick one
What the fuck is this guy 5'5"?
Fucking manlets I swear
My face btfo yours also. Also saving my pictures on your PC as motivation, mirin
Nope 6' , even that
MIRIN?
You still live in the Netherlands though. It's crazy that some people live their entire lives in the middle of nowhere and don't make a lasting impact upon the world, dying forgotten.
how big are those arms with and without a pump?
am merlin desu
>6'
sure thing, you'd look like a fucking child standing next to me, don't talk to me without permission
>Who else /wantstoroidbutisafraid/ here?
This was my case, but I went to doc lately because of gyno and she confirmed that I am low test faggot,
now I will get pills (or something medical) to increase my test paid by insurance
What you think I am doing right now
With pump 49 cm / ~19inch
uuh uuuh.. stutter..stutter BTFO
I would need roids that are undetectable to drug testing
I bet you actually s-s-s-s-stutter irl like the beta bitch you are
Just came off of my first test cycle. Im 33 and think you should wait untill your at least 30. It was an intresting experience. For me the only sides were; i slept more, ate more, got stronger. Coming off, i was tired for two days and now i feel normal again. It really isnt a big deal until you start blasting and cruising/stacking crazy shit.
>Roiding for this
I usually use men my own height as opposed to m*nlets as motivation
Made the stuttering jibe twice now. You projecting about a twitch?
>jibe
I was also better than you when i was natty, don't worry. i btfo you in all aspect in life
Ok here is a picture just near the dumbbell rack
BTFO yet again. I am unstoppable
>I am unstoppable
>gets a heart attack
I mean these are never accurate but yeah it's pretty obvious the guy is a manlet.
the guy brags about every little thing he ever does in his life, and posts "proof" of it
if he wasn't a manlet he'd already posted real fucking measure pictures, to "btfo" all the haters
but he never did
and he never will
because he is under 5'9
every time this is brought up he either ignores the facts, posts a pic where you clearly cant tell if he's over or under 6', or just tells you he "btfo"d you, whatever he means by that
What's your stack like anyway
>because he is under 5'9
well obviously, why else would he be obsessed with being 'the biggest in the room'
I used to be Jow Forums and hit 1/2/3/4 then let myself after I left the Army. Is it a retarded idea to pin 500mg test e at 185cm/82kg and like 18% BF?
I'm afraid of buying underground shit and it being full of lead or something
I wish I could find pharma grade but that's near impossible
Blood work, supplements, diet and cardio will keep me alive. All those pro bodybuilders are blasting way more shit than me and they're also still alive even after 50/60
You're too stupid to do your own research and believe anything that the media is telling you,
>MUHH STEROIDS GIVE SMALL PENIS
you fucking retarded brainlet
The evidence is there, but he still refuses to believe.
This anti suicide cope mechanism in the brain is really interesting
Mostly masteron and test. Never did tren. Never do harsh compounds and did only a few time orals
Where to get constant bloodwork? My insurance only covers 1 blood test during my physical, a year.
I you conceive on gear will that effect children?
No, just less likely to conceive in the first place because your balls dgaf.
Via internet/private clinics. Cost like 89 euro for me. Do it before each blast.
>If you’re just an average bloke why bother?
Because I'm tired of feeling like a pushover. I want to feel vigorous, healthy, strong, and full of vitality...........I want to feel, you know, high test. The emotional aspects are just as attractive as the aesthetics ones to me.
What was your first cycle and how old were you? How much did you lift as a natty?
Mirin btw, all these dyels get assblasted every damn time lmao
its almost too easy for you
>t. masT
Exactly this right here.
There is something out there that will make you feel like a damn superhero, the manly man people have romanticized for ages and it will be the absolute peak of your life.
But dood why would a natty want that deeeerrrrr
I'm really interested in hopping on a cycle someday, but desu I'm worried about the side effects. I've had some bad reactions to some more minor drugs (ephedrine) and definitely effected my mood. I wouldn't want that shit in my system at work or with friends.
I sure wish I was masT, but unfortunatly im not even close, heres a (you)
had HGH deficiency as a kid. doc gave me test to supplement the growth hormone as well.
didn't give a shit about being fit back then, now all i want is to hop back on that sweet T train, but need to find a doctor who can be a bro and not 'well your test levels are 400+ and you've got no hypgonadism, so no...'
or would just buy off the internet, but i'm not sure i trust bathtub chemicals, plus i could lose my professional license because test is somehow a 'controlled substance' (fuck you, pussy government)
What cycle should I do if I wanted to achieve this type of body? Is Test E solo enough?
just anecdotally it's common knowledge among bbers that guys who conceive on gear are more likely to have girls
Roids are awesome and I'd do them for life if not for the fact that they literally shrink your brain and destroy your visuospatial intelligence
check these out, both open access
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Bannana Toaster diCK bUTt?
long term, high dose, p barely significant, n of bare minimum significance of 31.
bullshit article not worth posting
I was 22. First cycle was test + mast for 16 weeks.
This was before is started that first cycle. Not sure about lifts
the p values in the cerebral cortex vol and cerebral thickness study were for current users vs nonusers .001, and many of the other p values were significant not only at p
blast and cruise, nigger.
didn't read the first article, only skimmed abstract/conc of second, but come on, with an n of a low number of people we already have a tiny doubt about, it's not the best example.
You know how many people in these fields cherry pick examples and 'accidentally' lose some data sets in order to get a 'significant' finding published?
You seriously think that you'll look like ronnie at age 80 if you dedicate your life fully to bodybuilding? Are you stupid?
Normies don't know what steroid abuse looks like. As long as you don't look like Jay Cutler on stage you're fine