Conversely, does being rich kill your gains?
Is being poor and desperate the ultimate motivator?
Cooper Jones
Liam Gray
Quite the opposite, bodybuilding is a sport of capitalism
Brandon Sullivan
That might be the case.
I grew up with constant stress, I finally moved out a few months ago and it feels odd to me having a bit of "peace" in my life.
A lot of my motivation has gone away sadly, its hard trying to keep that up to keep being Jow Forums
James Perez
certainly you would have better resources such as trainers, nutrition, equipment at your disposal, but does the money and comfort dull your "edge"?
Henry Miller
No. Poor people are poor because they're lazy and stupid, and they are also unhealthy as a result. They try to numb the doldrums of their lives with alcohol, shit food, smoking and drugs, while abdicating personal responsibility in favor of gibs and blaming everyone but themselves for their situation,
Sure there's some who rise out of that, but statistically if you were raised by a single mother the likelihood of social mobility is remote.
Eli Reyes
some of this is true, but how do you explain superb athletes who came from shithole neighborhoods being raised by their grandma's?
Justin Hill
superb athletes are by their very nature exceptions to the norm.
Ethan Miller
>how do you explain superb athletes who came from shithole neighborhoods
They weren't lazy and stupid...
Charles Ross
Basically this.
Because if they're not lazy and stupid they can raise themselves out of poverty
Andrew Flores
They clearly were motivated to achieve greatness. Genetics will only take you so far.
Charles Hernandez
I don't think we disagree on anything, there's no point in arguing.
Carter Howard
ah yes
just take a look at shaq for instance
7’ 1, 320lbs of pure motivation
if only i could be as “motivated” as shaq then i could be a basketball god like him
this might be the most boomer shit ive read today holy fucking shit
John Gonzalez
What's your point?
If you're not tall there's plenty of other sports you can do.
Evan Garcia
Yes and no.
The rich guys that are ambitious and narcissistic are very determined, competitive and motivated. They work hard and have the advantages so they will achieve a lot. But they are the few.
The other rich will become either fat or skinny. Most of them are weak. They are usually content and satisfied with their life.
Similarly, there are two types of poor people. Those that want to soar and rise from their poor background. And those that have accepted their fate and want to be with their "bros" forever.
Lucas Evans
Hes an outlier. No skill or training required for him. But what about someone like this...
Bentley Hill
No, the main outlier may be prison, but for the most part, health strength and income are positively correlated
Carson Lewis
That will make you money? Maybe, but you have to have the right genetics to compete at a pro level in most sports. Hell the nfl has fucking size and arm length requirements for half the positions.
Alexander Harris
poor+ at least average intelligence yeah
Hudson Taylor
>someone like that
yeah look at his hand size and arm length if you think he's like any average person walking around you are retarded
Sebastian Mitchell
No
Well-bred people are literally better at everything
Mostly because they live in the long term, doing things like sports out if enjoyment and self-discipline
Meanwhile poor people have motivations like "if I push hard I'll get this job" or "I'll get a girlfriend". Extraneous motivations like that are just worse.
Plebs, the whole of you.
Thomas Hernandez
No
Well-bred people are literally better at everything
Mostly because they live in the long term, doing things like sports out if enjoyment and self-discipline
Meanwhile poor people have motivations like "if I push hard I'll get this job" or "I'll get a girlfriend". Extraneous motivations like that are just worse.
Plebs, the whole of you.