Snake Diet vs The Doctors

A (((fitness guru))) vs (((TV personalities))). Snake oil salesman vs snake oil salespeople. It's like the Bolsheviks vs the Nazis: whoever wins, everyone else loses.

Hi everyone, I'm a medical doctor, specialized in intensive care and emergency medicine. So get this, fasts along the 24-48 hour mark are actually healthy every now and then. Going past that, as with any case of metabolic extremism, could determine complications, but this is very case dependent.

med student here too. The break down of muscles is what you do not want. But even then, it is minimal since ketosis will soon take over.

This snake diet guy sounds bs with his disease stories but I do wonder how healthy fasting is past a few days, not sure since our bodies prob were developed through evolution to fast for days and days.

Those TV docs piss me off, their arrogance is obvious.

you mean extremes of any sort should be avoided? really makes ya think

are you trying to communicate something here?

what is cole selling? he charges $0 for coaching and sells no products, he even said he would allow other people to sell stuff with his logo if they want and some people are on instagram

you know nothing bro, and it's pretty lame to comment like you do when you don't

>fat is fuel
>electrolytes keep the body going
Honestly, he does make sense. Whats wrong about the snake diet?

>Whats wrong about the snake diet?
nothing, and the doctors didn't even provide an alternative in the show for weight loss

of course all they do offer is drugs and cutting out half the stomach, in reality fat people can just stop eating like bears and penguins

>Don't consume micronutrients
>End up getting scurvey in 2016+2

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You'll *probably* be fine as far as calories and fat soluble nutrients like Vitamin K are concerned.

You'll be fucked for water soluble nutrients like C, though.

>thinking you need vitamin C

lmao

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Med student again. I tend to be a contrarian prob due to my ENTP personality (unlike the vast majority of docs). I think I'm siding with the snake fag here, even though his claims of it solving disease related problems are probably exaggerated.

There is good research out there but it is not fully mainstream and accepted in the medical community right now, but fasting is legit and changes in our societies perspective on it will be 100x greater than any medical break through.

While the snakefag is advocating some extremities regarding fat people and their ability to massively fast for long time which I find dangerous, he generally (from another video I saw of him) advocates 24-48 hr fasts/refeeding periods, which is pretty based and redpilled. I try to do 16 hr. fasts everyday but I fail that often since breakfast is too delicious.

His plan is basically his own version of a more extreme version of Intermittent fasting. Te research is still not clear/enough regarding the limits of IF, but biologically and evolutionary speaking the Snake Diet looks pretty good and healthy.

It's just the american anti establishment retardation conspiracy theorist diet obsessed base that literally have never even fucking met a doctor in order to realize that they're just regular people trying to save lives, they have this notion that doctors want people sick in order to keep making money, but doctors can't make you fucking sick in the first place, everyone is responsible for their own health except maybe children that are fed terrible diets by their parents.

jerry springer style tv with doctors

can there be any doubt that doctors are pieces of shit

>solving disease related problems are probably exaggerated
I don't have the links at hand but I've heard there are some studies which claim that taking vitamin supplements is a terrible idea for someone who has cancer since supposedly these vitamins help and feed the cancer cells.

I don't believe that his diet has shrunk the tumor as he claims in the video but at the same time though, maybe his paradigm isn't completely wrong.

because you need these things called amino acids in order to preserve nitrogen balance and muscle mass.
Fats aren't as nitrogen/protein sparing as glucose.
Electrolytes are literally only an issue in keto diets and during starvation for a reason, eating carbs makes you able to hold on to minerals far easier.

A lot of doctors are old foggys that don’t approve of smoking pot, don’t care about the current fad foods and diets, and will tell you lifting heavy weights eventually always causes injury so young people instantly discredit 99% of what they say because they didn't’ figure out a lot of these sort of things are to be take lightly and is different than a doctor saying you shouldn’t do something because it will fuck you up specifcally because you have some problem.

american discussion """culture""" everybody

when everyone just shouts on top of each other, the loudest retard wins

It's America, what do you expect? There isn't a single country even remotely as full of shills and people lacking common sense as America. Tons of shills and a populace lacking common sense is just a terrible combination.

With this in mind, how would you design a fat loss diet?

Vitamins are a meme in itself in that they dont get absorbed into the body the way we think.

That claim about tumor shrinkage was pretty laughable and I almost keked IRL when I heard it.

>Vitamins are a meme in itself in that they dont get absorbed into the body the way we think.
Explain.

*vitamin supplements I mean, not vitamins you find in food

>The worlds leading region in research because they can actually afford it.

good luck with socialism and long lines kid

Have this many people never heard of a fast? I mean, nothing the dude said was wrong in terms of caloric burn and the caloric needs of grossly obese individuals. You can't get the fat off of your body unless your force your body to eat it. Providing a stead stream of calories when you're already carrying excess body fat will retain the excess body fat.

That whole panel was just embarrassing.

Fat, protein, and vegetables; somewhat in that order. Stick non-animal based fats like 90% of the time, but it should be like a 60/40 ratio of fat to protein, with green veggies added on top of that for various nutrients. Your veggie games needs to be pretty tip top because fat and protein are pretty much just fat and protein as far as nutrients are concerned.

I would first follow the evidence of what's superior for body composition, not just fat loss only.
That seems to be a diet very moderate in calories, but not completely absent of any exogenous energy, as energy is what actually dictates how much muscle you lose.
Fats and carbs both preserve muscle from being broken down, but carbs do it better.
It's fine if you don't want ot eat carbs, but carbs are objectively a superior source of energy in terms of achieving a better body composition.

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>the worlds leading nation in obesity and fastfood lecturing me on health and fitness
LoL

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Let's Begin

>what is cole selling?
His cult of personality.

>he charges $0 for coaching and sells no products
He charges exposure, and he does sell products, just not a massive supplement line like a lot of other fitness gurus. His business does better in the long term not charging money directly for coaching, and he knows it. You'd know it too if you'd paid as much attention as I have.

This.
>B-BUT HE DOESN'T SELL SUPPLEMENTS SO HE CAN'T POSSIBLY BE A MISINFORMED RETARD SOCIOPATHIC CUNT WHO PROFITS FROM HIS OWN ONLINE PERSONA

His fans might also be slightly masochistic. Read the comment page on one of his rant videos; you'll find at least a couple people reveling in how he calls his fans a bunch of fat pigs.

Yeah it's definitely the fault of doctors and scientists that people are retarded and eat a diet of hot pockets & starbucks