With all the worry and fear of foods that boost estrogen (which I am inclined to believe just based on looking how...

with all the worry and fear of foods that boost estrogen (which I am inclined to believe just based on looking how mature young girls look and how feminine most boys look) , could we also find some sort of additive / preservative that has the opposite effect?

i am aware of the basics of food that help test production (foods high in zinc, magnesium, etc) but most of the estrogenic effects come from additives such as BPA or preservatives. are there any that could be testogenic ??

could eating meat full of steroids / growth hormone be beneficial?

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It's cholesterol. It turns into testosterone in your body.

Not OP, but question....

Does having high cholesterol levels mean you have high testosterone levels?

I had a blood test, but the doctor refused to do a test check because "MUH PUBLIC RESOURCES, YOU HAVE A LOT OF MUSCLE, YOU DONT NEED IT" and only gave me a standard blood test, and my cholesterol came back high.

Your high cholesterol is due to your recent meals. Your body was in the process of turning that to test at the time of your bloodwork. Of course the doctor wouldn't check because yes, you have visibly high test.

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Recent meals?

I was fasted for the test though.

I don't think it's anything in the food. I think humans are unknowingly doing to ourselves what we did to wolves when we domesticated them and made dogs. We're simply selectively breeding for cuteness and docility.

Then it was what was stored in your fat. Which is essentially a recent meal to your body.

Fasting is great for test as well. You are surely doing great.

birth control has a huge effect on this because it makes women think they're already pregnant which makes them not want to be fucked by a manly man, it makes them want to be around cucks who they end up fucking and marrying and having kids once they go off the brth control. also its in the water supply too

Hopefully no one here is retarded enough to listen to this troll.

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even more of a meme
women go for providers and chad slayers, not for bois lmao

If I have said something wrong, plainly say it.

you seem to think that high cholesterol is a good thing

This is a good point. When you're on hormonal birth control you want a soft subservient man to take care of you and when you're not you want Chad to put a baby in you.

Boys look feminine because they watch porn and masturbate. And not only boys, a grown man too.
I am porn free since 2017 and I can tell you I never been more muscular and aggressive than now. Porn destroys manhood.

Onions are literally the opposite of sóy

yeah when i get a big nofap streak my energy levels skyrocket, but unfortunately i end up getting really horny and breaking it by fapping again. the cruel cycle

You seem to be under the impression that high cholesterol equals high testosterone, which is bull.
Since you made this statement Im sure you can send me a metastudy backing it up. It is true that cholesterol is used for the synthesis of test, but that is not the only hormone cholesterol is the precursor for.

You just need the strong reason to never fap again. I found mine, you need to find yours.

Also, first try to total remove porn and visual masturbating from your life. Do 2 weak no fap, after that your libido, will be strong so you can fap only to feel. You need to rewire your brain. When you have sex you focus on feel right, when you masturbate you focus on the visual picture. You need to rewire this, you need to connect sex with feel again. So what you gonna do and because this I successfully quit porn is that after 2 weeks you start to masturbate only to feel, no visual stimulants. Just take your dick and go up and down and focus on feel, don't think about the girl. And thats it.

Your free test will never go beyond your natural physiological range unless you're actually impacting your endogenous hormonal production and feedback by injecting or ingesting exogenous steroids or compounds that interact with your androgen or estrogen receptors.
Cholesterol levels also don't seem to matters at all in terms of muscular potential, cholesterol levels do sliiiiiightly raise your test levels but also your estrogen levels and SHBG levels, so it doesn't matter.

Also, testosterone isn't even the only anabolic hormone in the body.
DHEA sulfate is equally as important, in fact DHEA sulfate seems to be the hormone that is associated the most with muscular strength and size, and you can see plenty of jacked ripped bodybuilders in the offseason with abysmal testosterone levels, same for athletes, testosterone isn't even the end all be all of muscular potential so it doesn't matter.

Worrying about optimizing cholesterol levels for maximizing testosterone levels is more likely to reduce your gains, not increase them.

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i will try this. i've had many month-long streaks, even more week-long streaks, and one 140 day streak, but whenever i fail i end up fapping to porn again, so maybe this will make difference.

And also stop watching, thinking and dreaming about girls and sex. That is the hardest thing but it is possible and that is key to successfully quit masturbating. Also, you only need to fap like 3-5 times on feel to rewire the brain. After that you can successfully do lifelong nofap.

I recently started nofap and realized that to fap I need to direct my attention at something. If I don't watch porn, there is nothing to direct my attention at, so I don't end up fapping.

Nofap fucked me up and made me unable to get an erection when I wanted to have sex with a QT3.14 after a 24 day streak. During this streak my energy did not increase, I stopped getting morning wood, I never had a wet dream, and my sex drive was in the toilet. Once I broke the NoFap streak my cum was yellow and runny and all around fucking disgusting. The night after I broke the streak I had a massive wet dream and soaked my sheets and I still had a raging boner when I woke up. I've found that for me if I jerk it once every 5-7 days I usually have wet dreams, diamonds morning wood, and a high sex drive. I'm sure some people are different and NoFap probably helps degenerate porn addicts but when I tried it I found zero positive benefit. Not even trying to shill porn since you don't need porn at all. I'm sharing my experience with NoFap which I found for me personally to be unhealthy. 24 years old, 13 girls laid, 5'11" 150lb 10% or lower body fat at all times. Yes I'm DYEL but I actually don't lift because im focusing on cycling.

i have seen lots of info regarding allicin (found in garlic) as a compound that promotes or mimics test.

however it's not the matter of simply 'eat more garlic' , it's a very finicky compound that's only released when garlic is crushed and lasts ~10 minutes. are there any other additives or chemicals that we can start adding to food processing to encourage test production?

Are we heading towards a path where men and women will be required to eat radically different diets? Or will it not matter, just like gender doesn't seem to matter any more.

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This guy is fucking with you OP

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just fucking roid if you care that much.

i completely disregard anything people who feel the need to make a username on an anonymous message board say

this isn't just for personal growth, i'm wondering about society as a whole. not looking for personal supplements, but methods to reverse this feminization epidemic

None of this shit matters, stop trying to find a magical solution in fucking everyday food for getting rid of your gymceldom, it will never work.
Either eat literal steroids or inject them, there's nothing else worth doing.
The only foods that contain a high ammount of steroids(male and female) are dairy based, and skim milk seems to have the most androgens and least estrogens out of all the dairy products.

>methods to reverse this feminization epidemic
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what the hell is skim milk? sounds like something a euro would scrape out of his foreskin

Does seeing pictures of sexy women on the chans count as porn? Not naked just the suggestive swimwear/yoga pants/big cleavage images anons post. I'm worried I won't be cured from porn if I keep seeing these images, even if I don't click on them I still see them.

Or is it good for test and motivation like seeing sexy women irl and not being able to see them naked with just a click?

May have low free testosterone still, doctor still have issued him paper work to get blood work done.

it's what alpha chad athletes drink, and what women who are looking to get pregnant are told to avoid
skim milk intake is associated with testosterone dominance in women and higher sperm counts in men

yeah but how is it different from regular milk?

would have to try this out. I've had very good nofap runs in the past but somehow can't seem to commit to it anymore, so decided to give noporn a go instead. until now all it's done for me however is imagining me raping girls I saw that day or some shit while jacking off, doesn't seem to be much of an improvement mental health wise

>literally 1 sec of google search

>Dietary cholesterol totally turns into serum cholesterol when the discussion is about testosterone
>Dietary cholesterol totally doesn't turn into serum cholesterol when the discussion is about heart disease
Dishonest fleshniggers

Pic related is everything you need to know as a basis and for general knowledge on the topic.
Download it and zoom

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Just fyi, this means milk is OK to drink

The diet you should be following

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More important to increase intake of nutrients that help flush out excess estrogens if it is the case that the food supply is raising it.

Vitamin A, B12, K2, D3 and Choline if I remember correctly will all be more important than Zinc.

Milk converts to dihydrotestosterone, which is a stronger androgen than testosterone, which is the reason why it causes acne for so many people. The androgens increase oil production.

Also, why would anyone drink skim milk? It's basically sugar water.

>Milk converts to dihydrotestosterone
[citation needed]