You do pay women for their emotional labor, right?

Not opening a link to that shitty website.

I think the general undercurrent of unwarranted self importance flowing out of America is about to backfire very soon and it will hopefully blow up in their faces.

I unironically set up 19% of my paycheck to be automatically deposited to my feminist dominatrix to "balance the wage gap".
In one year that will be close to $15000.

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oh no no no. maybe Amouranth or another nice twitch Stacey. not 5guys chick.

>muh gender income equality
This has been debunked so many fucking times already

>i dont hate the murderer i hate the one being murdered
ok

whores are automatons who literally hear what they want to hear.
compliments aren't real compliments to them and every opinion you have of them is defensively policed.

sometimes you'll be chatting about sluts and cunts with your body and some random whore in proximity will go, "are you talking about me?". that's how fucked they are.

No it hasn't
If it was just a coincidence why would there not be a single country, state, or industry where women earn more than men? Why do these gaps become smaller in more liberal countries?

What's actually happening is the beta is being murdered by 1/10 women and he's happy for just that amount of attention. Take a look at this pic buddy, take a good long look.

It's not the problem that ugly girls get matches and attention, which although it is true they are not the initiaters. Beta males validate every single fucking ugly skank whore girl with their beta male bullshit and make them think they deserve so much more than they actually do.

Kill all beta males. Only Alphas and Omegas deserve to live. Either master the game or refuse to play the game. These middle ground faggots need to be purged.

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Women have been making fun of me since middle school for daring to be born an ugly male. Why do they think they perform "emotional labor"?

>being this much of a slave to females

Pussy apologists need to be purged

>omegas

HAHAHAHAHAHA

>its not the problem that murderers murder people. Why would we even punish the murderers? If we just kill all people there will be no one left to murder, thus solving the problem
imagine being this much of a whiteknight

>thinking women deserve less validation so they are more realistic in their expectations of partners allowing sub-par men to have partners is being a slave to females

Are you mentally handicapped?

In Wolf packs the omega is the wolf at the very bottom of the pack, gets no pickings and doesn't partake in the hierarchy. If I'm going to be a subpar male I will do it with dignity. I'm not playing the game for pity fucks. Fuck that.

>probably believes, as I do, that women aren't capable of making their own decisions
>probably believes, as I do, that women have too much power in the social dynamic
>can't use his single brain cell to work out that it's beta males that have given women the power

Imagine being this much of an in denial cuckold.

You do realize this was written deliberately so that outraged losers and marketers would repost it everywhere?

The difference if under 5% and thats because women on average undervalue their labour and are afraid to ask for raises.

I sincerely wish I could plant a knife right in your throat.

>dude its not the womens fault they are scum they cant make decisions! We should just kill all men so there will be no men left to exploit!
>dude its not the niggers fault they steal and kill people, they cant make decisions! We should just kill all white people so there will be no white people left to steal from!
This is how retarded you sound.

the only correct take on this. absolutely DISGUSTING

The average woman's salary is close to 80% of the average man's.

There's no point in comparing averages. If you compare the wages of men and women working the same jobs (with the same amount of work experience, education etc.), you'll quickly see that the wage gap pretty much goes away. Its all about how you read the statistics

you hate women, plain and simple, you hate that women chose different jobs, and chose to work less, take less over time. you just hate women that much that you have to treat them like a lesser person and literally give them money because they cant be responsable for their actions.

every day I am convinced feminists and feminist men hate women making their own choices.

feminist never answer why businesses dont employ "cheaper" women who are in most western countries going to higher education more than men and thus would be "more capable for a cheaper price" seems like a bargin to me. unless all business is sexist including female run businesses

they also ignore the fact that there are literal laws in place for equal pay.

>kill all men

I said kill all beta males. The sad losers who actually do whiteknight women, match them by the thousands on tinder, shower them with false compliments in the vain hope they will get laid. I see it every day. These men should know their behaviours are damning their fellow men, they should not be validating women who do not deserve validation.

You can stay in denial and think that women are at fault here, but who gave women the vote?

Betas

Who gave women their sexual liberation?

Betas

Who gives women thousands of compliments every single day with not a single positive response?

Betas

Chad treats women like GARBAGE, and good on him for doing so. If betas either accepted reality like men and gave up their pathetic attempts like I have and any respectable man would do or killed themselves the world would probably be much better off.

If you can't see that, if you actually think Betas are at all victims then you are either one of them or in denial.

who is that feminist dominatrix? i want to join in serving her

Case in point. Kill yourself betas.

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There is a point.
The fact that pink collar jobs are overwhelmingly undervalued is an issue. Yes two managers at an SP500 company will earn NEARLY the same, but the question is why does a nurse who goes to college, gets a degree, and saves lives earn about the same as a college dropout unclogging toilets?
Society values male dominated jobs more for arbitrary reasons. And again the fact that there's pretty much no category of job where a woman earns MORE than a man, but the opposite is always true in any country in the world, is proof enough that it's an issue regardless.

You're entire premise lies in the fact that there is no gender discrimination, but that's objectively false. Come back with a real argument you dumb incel.

It's to balance and keep civilization in check. Women are so socially privileged in terms of sex and interpersonal relationships it's only right to give men some kind of leg up in the world. Women also only find men who earn more than them to be attractive if we paid women more it would make female hypergamy get to civilization ending levels

>Calls others dumb
>Doesn't understand the difference between your and you're
Fucking kill yourself retard lmao

Why don't women get into male dominated jobs then? Does the evil patriarchy send mind control rays that stop them from applying?

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Relationships are all about a negotiation of the balance of power. You give up a bit of yourself to get something in return. In a healthy relationship with two moral actors the sum of the relationship becomes more than its contributing parts, which is why traditional marriage is a strong system. Progressive reform set up a system where traditional expectations were open for negotiation. It came from a moral principle, but in practice many people are terrible at this renegotiation, and the confusion of expectations, weak cultural framework, and proliferation of bad faith actors has turned society into a mess. In short the Western world has become packed with borderline narcissists. The capitalistic truism that owners are always seeking more return from less investment has filtered into relationships as radical feminism has encouraged women to commodify their bodies and, as this article suggests, their emotional investment. Young women behave like prostitutes while hiding behind a veneer of empowerment. The social cost of this cannot be underestimated.

OP, please tell me, why are you such a stupid fuck?

Use archive.is to link bullshit like this.
Example >archive.is/ftrrE

>vice.com/en_us
Vice. I wonder who else would stoop to this level.
>emotional labor
Say what? It's men who are the emotional tampons for women. Men provide for women.
>#give yo moneys to womyn
Men fought and died for their rights. Women took selfies and shamed men on social media for shopping money. Pathetic.

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>Honestly, it's been overwhelmingly white women who've been upset about the hashtag. Women of color have been rejoicing in song over this whole movement. It has been overlooked by mainly white women who've been like, "This is ridiculous and giving feminism a bad name, what do you think you're doing." It's been interesting to see the racial divide.

Lol black women are among the worst class of human on the planet

> It's to balance and keep civilization in check.
See at least you can admit it now.
Everyone wants to pretend like gender based pay disparity doesn't exist in the first place.

Nice non-argument friendo

They do, and they're still systematically paid less. Yet when a man goes into pink collar job, they still earn more on average than women of the same job/experience.

Yes it exists and hopefully you can see why it needs to exist. Women are inherently evil, if we give them an inch they'll take a mile and destroy everything.

This so fucking hard. The hatred i feel for those beta wastes is great. A great exemple is those fags donating all their money and their parents to some dumb streamer chick in hopes of getting laid.

Thd chick is cancer for ruining the site, but the betas enable them

>omega wolves

huehuehuehue

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By the time all this shit is done, we will make salafists look like tumblrina feminists by comparison

That isn't my domme, but if you're looking to serve Kelly Sunshine is pretty good. It's who I'd pick if I wasn't already serving.

This is why you only go for brown women. I much rather have a qt pakistani muslima wife

I don't argue with betas, waste of time. Anything else you'd like to add?

Dude this is not the kind of shit I need to encounter today.

I cant think of a more cucked fetish than actual cuckism. Im telling you, you are fucking pathetic

fincucks like him are far worse than actual cucks. If my wife is gonna fuck niggers, at least dont expect me to pay for her shit

>pay me for my "emotional labor"
Do these people realize the complete, utter stupidity of this?
It's as if they've exposed 3rd wave feminism for what it is, albeit subconsciously.
It isn't a full time job to be attentive to your partner, it's something both men and women are responsible for in any healthy relationship.
So why now does it require a paycheck?
Because the women behind this movement treat a relationship as a way to money or status.
Think about it logically. For any regular human being, a relationship is something they participate in because they enjoy their partner's company. Being around someone they love and care for is payment enough for their "emotional labor."
What these cunts have done by taking this step towards "empowerment" has literally exposed the basis of the entire feminist movement.
They don't feel "oppressed" or "inadequate."
They're pissed off because life isn't easy enough for them, and they can't handle NOT spending thousands of dollars of daddy's money.
What they've effectively done is completely undermined EVERYTHING their movement stands on, and exposed it for what it is, a way to give a woman an easier lane to power, money, and fame than a man.
And the worst part is society is bending to it.

On your question of why Nurses earn the equivalent pay of Plumbers. It is quite simple actually, it is because plumbing is seen as more dangerous, disgusting and can have a significant toll on your health. Nursing on the other hand is not dangerous and does not pose an immediate threat to your own health.
Look up microeconomics, wage determination in the labour markets, non monetary factors.

Another way to look at this is through using supply and demand curves.

Also, the more important role in savings patients lives are Doctors, not Nurses.

There is no category where a woman earns more is simple, it is because women tend to work less hours which hence gives them lower income for a similar job.

The amount of privileged females enjoy far supercedes the privilleges males enjoy. Frankly if I had a chance to be reborn, would be reborn as a female.

Well I may be pathetic, but at least I'm not a poorfag who gets riled up at how other people use their own money.

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>thinking it's about the money
It was never about the money.

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> Plumbing is seen as more dangerous, disgusting and can have a significant toll on your health.
Have you every been to a hospital?
Being a nurse is a pretty disgusting job and working in a hospital where you can contract super antibiotic-resistant bugs is way more dangerous than wrenching pipes.
Microeconomics is just another example of wishy washy soft science used to explain something after the fact. The actual determination of wages is done by flawed humans who use precedent underpinned by a history of blatant sexism.
And the wage gap exists even when actual hours work is controlled. No matter what factor you control there is always a wage gap, no matter how small, that favors men.

The argument is predicated on women getting more out of heterosexual relationships than men. There is some evidence of this: since married men are happy and healthier than single men. This is not true for women. The problem, is that we can't do randomized controlled experiments. So, we can't tell if marriage is making men happier and healthier, or if women are selecting the happier and healthier men, and the men are just marrying blind. psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-therapy/201510/is-marriage-worth-the-trouble-women

Vice was fairly cool up until 2015, what went wrong?

And this isn't even taking into account the effects of divorce. Since most people who receive alimony are women. Once you take that into account, the women could easily come out ahead. forbes.com/sites/emmajohnson/2014/11/20/why-do-so-few-men-get-alimony/#775ed9e254b9

>2015
probably hiring on more female staff

I have tried my best, at 4 am, to engage you in good faith and try to explain to you the reasons for the apparent wage differentials. It seems that you have no intention to open your mind to new ideas, but rather want to continue living in your bubble thinking that society discriminated against females. Fatality rates for male based occupations is signifcantly higher compared to female based occupations. Even in a majority female occupation, men tend to be more expected to do physical work. To quote some statistics , 93 percent of workplace related deaths were male and 7 percent were female, considering that male deaths are significantly higher, hence male dominated professions are considered more deadly and will have higher monetary compensation to compensate for the probability of death and other non monetary factors. If economics was a wishywashy science, financial institutions would not use it. Also, a majority of the flawed humans are human resource, which of course are female. So is it not ironic that it is females being sexist to other females?

>"But the idea behind the hashtag was even better than that: Women were banding together to demand payment for all the emotional work we do that goes completely unpaid - the exhausting work of being a tolerant, gentle, nurturing, listening woman in our relationships with men, at all times. Women put up with a lot of bullshit, and we have a science-backed term for it: Emotional labor. And as with any kind of labor, women are now ready and eager to get paid."
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This is the modern roastie. So toxic they can't even be a decent person without expecting money for it.

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Do you think EMTs deserve to be paid more.
t.EMT

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>vice

Do they actually report real news or do they just like writing gay shit for dumb people to read?

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A lot of women want to be nurses, hence a lot of them saturate the job market bringing down wages. There are only so many hospitals and doctor's offices. Not a lot of people want to be plumbers in general. If all male plumbers vanished tomorrow and were suddenly replaced by female plumbers, wages wouldn't suddenly drop for plumbers just because females now have the role. Fucking retard

Wage determination is a function of demand and supply, it is not a result of what any individual feels. Of course I think everyone should be paid livable wages, but I do not set wages.

If you are a female, become a twitch thot/female cosplayer, it pays a lot of money for little effort.

You seem to have a problem understanding that theory doesn't translate to reality 1:1.
I never said that fatality rates for some male dominated jobs wasn't much higher, but the specific case we were discussing was plumber which is NOT a more or less dangerous job than a nurse. Most male dominated blue collar jobs just aren't as dangerous as you make them out to be because accidents can happen anywhere.
But you continue to tautologically assert that menial labor and physicality inherently deserve better pay. My question is why? There are significant consequences for society at large if nurses were to disappear tomorrow, yet their skill is valued at the same as a guy who could be replaced by YouTube and a trip a to the hardware store. Why aren't jobs that require an empathetic touch valued highly when it is a limited resource just like physicality?
And like I said, the reason the gap continues despite women being in HR is because employers use historical data of wages and just adjust for inflation. So the low paying salaries set in the era of blatant discrimination is the standard for how the market valued things.

>female
>Jow Forums
I hear canadaland has better wages for EMTs. Maybe I can eventually move there. It'd be closer to iowa so I can see my relatives more often.

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Nursing is a consistently rated as an in demand job you fucking retard. They are certainly harder roles to fill than a fucking plumber.
And like I've said a dozen fucking times already, women in male dominated jobs consistently earn less than male counter parts, so yes there would be a sudden drop that's the whole fucking point that it doesn't make sense but it consistently happens no matter what job you pick or where. Jesus you're fucking braindead.

And why is it a bad thing that women make less? They should, it's good for civilization

Men all ready give their money to women. Men usually pay for dates. Most consumer spending is controlled by women. nielsen.com/us/en/insights/news/2013/u-s--women-control-the-purse-strings.html

Wrong, retard

>Nursing is a consistently rated as an in demand job
So is plumbing

>They are certainly harder roles to fill than a fucking plumber.
Irrelevant, more women want to be nurses than there are people who want to be plumbers. Already laid it out, you're too emotional and retarded to think clearly. Jesus you're braindead lmao

> hurr duur wrong
Yeah plumbers are so in demand that we have to important skilled immigrants to do meet demand, of wait that's nursing. I'd pay a million dollars to know how a mouth breather like you even has the capacity to live in society.

>Give your money to women

Get fucked.

You are truly delusional to think that society, at every corner, is out to get women. You talk about, demand of labour throughout, and you are right, Nurses are in high demand. BUT, there is also a high supply of Nurses. Comparatively, there might be a lower demand for Plumbers, but there will also be a lower supply of Plumbers, hence the wage may be similar out of pure coincidence. Plumbing wages and nursing wages are different throughout different countries, in some Nurses are paid higher, in others Plumbers are paid higher, you know why? Because of a magical thing called price inelasticity of supply and price inelasticity of demand. Imperfect information and geographical immobility and the corresponding compensation is why Plumbers can charge a degree equivalent despite not having a degree. If you are really interested in knowing why women tend to be paid less, I suggest you study microeconomics, not gender studies.

>There are significant consequences for society at large if nurses were to disappear tomorrow, yet their skill is valued at the same as a guy who could be replaced by YouTube and a trip a to the hardware store.

What you are describing here is a result of the marginalist principle. Private consumers and producers do not care about social costs or benefits. Whenever there is a negative or positive externality the free market equilibrium will never be equivalent to the socially efficient equilibrium. Hence there will always be over or underconsumption. A rational consumer or producer will only take into their consideration their own private costs and benefit, in contrast a consumer who takes into consideration societal costs or benefits is an irrational market participant.

If you want to have a more in depth conversation about microeconomics and wage determination and why females and female based professions earn less, post your discord id. That is of course, if you really want to know why, and are not here to push your narrative.

I really hope that this kind of person can think about the people this sort of attitude can effect.
I am a beta and nervous guy myself. Back in College I had a girl who used to fill my head with feminism, and she eventually managed to convince me that as a man, I had to pay her a tax to NOT have sex with her, as a reverse prostitution. I got really into the idea because she was my oneitis and we had a little shopping list. it was something like

>Not giving a blowjob 20 dollars
>Not giving sex 50 dollars
>Not giving a handjob 10 dollars

and such. She would basically just demand money and point to one of the list items and I would comply.

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