Almost no visible muscle mass

>almost no visible muscle mass
>still destroys everyone in his path (including obvious roid monkeys)
>many people believe he will end Khabib

How can Jow Forums cope?

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Cardio>lifting

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It's almost like bodybuidling and MMA are different sports.

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>No muscle mass

You obviously don’t know what his body is tuned for, go back to your subreddit.

guy's a freak

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stupid fucking question: is fighting more cardio or strength? do these fighters tend to have low body fat? does having mass hurt these fighters because it would slow them down?

can you elaborate? I'm really interested to know more

It's more cardio and technique. It's weight class based so you obviously want more muscle so you can better apply your techniques (tighter cinches, harder punches, etc).

In a non-weight class based fight, like a street fight, the bigger fighter usually has the advantage even if a large part of it is fat, all other things being equal.

>many people believe he will end Khabib

These are the same idiots who thought Connor had a chance.

Ferguson trained briefly at my gym, I can assure you he is very strong. What I'm mostly impressed with is his recovery from that knee surgery.

What people don't understand is how strong some wrestlers are. One of our guys who was a high level wrestler and fought in the UFC never lifted, ever. Yet, he was one of the strongest grapplers/fighters in the world. He was so strong than no one could understand until they grappled with him. I'm 6' 195lbs and when I grappled with him, it felt like I was a little kid wrestling my dad. Khabib probably has that sort of strength.

I would really like to see a Connor vs Ferguson match, as I think it would be really exciting. The winner can then lose to Khabib.

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Tony moggs everybody because he has an almost ridiculous amount of self confidence in the octagon. He takes risks, he shuffles, fucking rolls, and just generally has a "flow" to him that most of his opponents can't pin down. He's probably the most exciting fighter to watch desu. Also, he has a Mexican iron chin. Yes he gets clipped and knock down but he has a great recovery rate and usually comes back harder.

you realize tony was also an NCAA wrestler right?

and that he's actually good at BJJ?

its a completely different matchup than Conor/Khabib

I heard Khabib was challenging Mayweather? how would that even work?

He gets knocked down and taken down in almost every ufc fight though.

autism

At 155 I give Kevin Lee the best odds at beat Khabib

its called PEDs

>bodybuidling
>sport
LMAO keep dreaming

I just told you he trained at my gym. You think you know something about him I don't? He wasn't an NCAA wrestler (Keep in mind there are many levels of NCAA) - he wrestled for the NCWA.

Have you seen what Khabib has done to "good" wrestlers?

Anyways, it is a different match up. Doesn't mean Ferguson will win.

Well it would work this way: They would both make a shitload of money.

The guy I'm talking about didn't take PEDs; he was just a genetic freak. No idea if Khabib does or not.

Mayweather plays with him for a few rounds before knocking him out as he lacks power and technique

Bodybuilding is a pageant, not a sport

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Khabib is technically strong and Connor is raw power.

Connor always has a chance cuz all he needs is too land a single good kick or punch to end it you moron

>Connor always has a chance cuz all he needs is too land a single good kick or punch to end it

Me too

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figthing>lifting
ftfy

But this guy is muscular, how is he able to fight so well?

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And this guy is really fat, yet he's able to fight well... Do you think it's to do with bicep curls? Maybe they go cycling a lot...? It's a damned mystery...

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fighting is more about skills, skill is the effective application of strength, cardio refer to how long you can apply your strength for, cardio and strength are required for figthing, pacing, precision and timing are more important than cardio, power and speed, you need all of these to fight, peacing, precision, timing, cardio, strength and speed (power is born out of strength and speed, it can be and should be trainied on its own, but increasing strength and speed is going to increase power more, but then increasing timing and precision is going to increase power for figthing even more) at the end is all about skill, the effective application of strength
they do usually have low body fat
bigger mass does decrease speed, but it can increase strength, bodybuilding as it has a focus on slow repetitions would hurt a figther skills because speed is esential, but you can build muscle effective for your sport by training for strength and power and by practicing your sport

this guy is not a bodybuilder, so muscle doesn't affect skills as those muscle were build to improve his performance,
same as this ^ but butterbean is not fast, he relies on weigth and strength to win, his own way of skill (the effective application of skills, see )

>Lost to a 155lb manlet

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is this what training is nowadays? what a fucking joke. Absolutely zero of what he is doing except the small combat portion of that montage will help him in the ring and that kicker should be hitting harder. MMA is just two clay golems wailing on each other until one rips anothers arms off at this point

>can only respond with autism
Glad we got that discussion cleared up

Only fought trash boxers and got beaten by a half-retired Larry Holmes lol

do you really think that some figther don;t do bullshit like this to show off on instagram? and that they don't have real training, or that this is all of his training?
> MMA is just two clay golems wailing on each other until one rips anothers arms off at this point
that is not incorrect tho

He looks like the 56% meme.

Yeah, it obviously came from doing da beeg 3 leefts

Sv3rige disciple spotted

(you)

He is bigger than your average cbt poster.
>6 feet
>180ish

>I'm 6' 195lbs
Same size a khabib fella

>Khabib is technically strong and Connor is raw power.
Khabib is more powerful than connor, he allways was, connor had a faster reaction time and more fluid in his movements.

They guy prodes himself on doing what others are not doing/can' think off.
They guy basically breakdances during practice.

>Khabib probably has that sort of strength.

He squats something like 1,5pl8 lmao.

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If you had to guess, which one was the better fighter at the time this photo was taken?

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I mean, I hate saying this, but I am sure the strongest guys on Jow Forums like Isley or Lotus could beat Khabib.

did you watch the video
he benched 3pl8 for 2

You clearly didn't understand my post. It's amazing how stupid casuals are.

Stamina > Strength

Every time.

you dink he can beat brot lesnar then :^) ?

yeah brot lesnar is a bitch

I don't hate saying this, but I am sure you know nothing about fighting.

khabib is the same size as lotus tho

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He couldn't even get that "single good kick or punch" after cheating for 4 rounds. Absolutely wrestlefucked for the whole fight. He never had a chance, and never will. his only definable power was when he was fighting midgets in featherweight. There, his weight and height were far more ideal.

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It's almost as if leaner dudes are faster

hmmmm
seems like fighting has something to do with skill

And Usain Bolt will kick his ass in a 100 mts race. Fuckin retard

He's on cardarine, dbol, test, and HGH. He does 5 hours of cardio per day. Of course he's not going to have that much muscle mass despite his drug stack.

Based Fedor.
Looks worse, but russian made. He is not made of the same kind of flesh

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Stop doing that luso canadian prick

t. never been in a fight

I think Kabob was joking, but Floyd's dumbass thought he was serious. If that fight happens then remember to always bet on black.

Russians run the game now boi

Whgat's this new meme with girls next to food? Is it a leftypol psyop to try to get us to associate babes with food so we get fat?

Do I need extra protein and stuff when training for strength?
Femanon btw

are you a retard? it's a clear display that women are roasties.

Kevin Lee and Khabib both walk around at 205+ lbs apparently. Two guys who cut retarded amounts of weight for the weight advantage.

Ferguson already beat Kevin Lee though and I think he'd give Khabib problems. Anybody who has a solid BJJ game off their back would give Khabib trouble he excels at riding trying to get up and staying in mount. Look at his record he's beaten strikers and other wrestlers. You can't outwrestle Khabib and if you're a striker you have to be constantly aware of the takedown.

I think Ferguson has a better chance at beating Khabib than Lee just because his BJJ is better and he trains with Eddie Bravo who specialises off his back.

Also Khabib is definitely blood doping look into it

Oh my god drop this whining "Conor was cheating" bullshit. Khabib had his toes in the fence and fingers in Conors gloves aswell and attempted low blows.

It's MMA, people will break the rules to get an advantage. Jon Jones was king of the eye poke and nobody gave a shit. People only care about what Conor did because they hate Conor because he's confident and they're pussies and he makes them feel insecure.

he used to post on heem all the time but he hasnt been around lately. just luscious black girls jiggling and people larping as muslims these days

Haven’t seen these in a while

The bigger you are, the more easily you get gassed. This is why even at heavyweight you rarely see anyone above 250. There are diminishing returns when it comes to strength. You need to be able to land the strike at the right moment in the right spot, which is all about speed and coordination. Strength will determine how much you hurt the other guy, but it's more important to be able to hit him in the first place, and to be able to continue to hit him (and dodge hits) for 3-5 rounds. Yes of course it's better to be stronger, but strength isn't as important as technique, speed, or endurance.

Absolutely. Combat sports are fun as hell and they're as close as one could get to the perfect workout.

I'm not even that familiar with MMA and I know that Arlovski sucks balls, come on.

>they hate Conor because he's confident and they're pussies and he makes them feel insecure
Of course he's fucking confident, you need confidence to achieve such success. But what he's regularly showing is not confidence, it's being a showman. His mouth has literally won him way more money than his fists ever have.

Oh shut the fuck up you retard. Dude is 27-17. He's no Kimbo Slice or CM Punk.

So? That's the point of prize fighting. Why hate on him for being successful?

Also you can't discredit his accomplishments by saying he's just a showman. He's the best UFC featherweight ever.

sorry nigga but u dumb as fuck

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That only furthers my point that MMA and Bodybuilding have different needs.

*trips on a wire*

>people thinking he’s not on steroids because of his physique
Every professional athlete takes PEDs because they need to. You’d do the same for the amount of money they have on the line.

I really think there are a few naturals in most sports, MMA included, for example, I do think people like Bisping or Whittaker are natty, they don't look roided and have always called for stricter testing

In sports like weightlifting (or any primarily strength based stuff like PL or strongman) though, I feel like its a different story

I think anything mainly technique focused will have some nattys in there

Khabib isn't more powerful than Conor.


Just look at their KO records, it's not even close.

Khabibs best ever single punch was the beginning of round 2, and that was decent. But if Conor landed that punch Khabib would be asleep.

>I really think there are a few naturals in most sports
That's adorable.
Do you also believe in the Easter Bunny, Santa Clause and Goldstar lesbians?

got any real arguments aswell bud?

Well yeah, but the sport is basically set up to push the all important ground game above everything else. Remember, it was first and foremost a way to shill BJJ to retards user.

>decent
u mad ur boy got dropped by a wrestler breh?

you're a fucking idiot

I don't need an argument.
You think that there are naturals in professional sports.
That's the most naive thing I've ever read on Jow Forums.
The niggas in chess are on drugs.
The dudes who do fucking race walking are on gear.
Olympic curlers are on drugs

There is not s single sport on the earth where there are not people using some form of performance enhancing drug.

And you're telling me that pro fighters with a lot of money(for them, they get fucking nothign compared to boxers) occasionally have naturals show up?
You're...
I just want to pat you on the head and give you a bag of caramels before sending you off to play in the yard.

>I don't need an argument.
not an argument

also explain the behaviour of some few athletes that always want more and harder testing with less loopholes, give information about the loopholes to the testing agencies etc?

How many of them will consent to and help push random testing?

How many of them will vote in favor of having random testing done at any time anywhere even during their training camps.

I bet you hell will fucking freeze before those upright athletes consent to it.

doubt it, why would they demand more testing if they weren't willing to do it while the majority of other athletes aren't calling for it? Why not just conform, would be lower profile than beeing vocal about lax testing

Not a single one of those athletes will ever consent to 100% non controlled and unknown random publicized drug tests done anytime anywhen. Even at their training camps or during their training time.
Not a single fucking one.

and you base that on what exactly?

This would make no sense at all considering what they publicly always demand and would not make sense if they were juicing.

>non-controlled
?
>unknown random
It usually works that way, but there are a few holes, not often enough, you get warnings only if you're not where you said you were, etc.

>publicized
? There is no need to make every test public, as the results will be public if they test positive anyways

>anytime
see unknown random

GSP, Robert Whittaker, Conor McGregor, Daniel Cormier, Alexander Gustaffson, TJ Dillashaw, Demetrious Johnson, Rory Macdonald, Michael Bisping.
These are just off the top of my head.
GSP is a big one as he was the first guy calling for random tests in and out of comp, and stricter testing.
>I bet you hell will fucking freeze before those upright athletes consent to it.
Their consent is not necessary as USADA currently does exactly that

That's just publicity you fucking retard.
They can say that bullshit all motherfucking day but they'll never go through with it.
Besides, they already call people up and tell them when the tests are going to be so that means fucking nothing.

They need a third party to do it. One without a fucking agenda to push.

Reminds me of that woman who won gold for america in the olympics. And how they were on a "bust anyone for drugs" thing.
They went to this woman's house and told her that unless she confessed to being given and put on drugs to win for america that they were going to say that the loan that her boyfriend gave her in some way was enough to put her in prison. The woman was a single mother and had children.

Let's be honest here. The testing is bullshit now. We all know these motherfuckers are on drugs and the cock suckers use testing as a way to kick out undesirables or make the other geared up athletes look so clean and noble compared to the ebil gear abusers.

>That's just publicity you fucking retard.
Ohhh I wasn't aware you had intimate knowledge of their opinions in their private lives. Do tell how you got those.
>Besides, they already call people up and tell them when the tests are going to be so that means fucking nothing.
If that were the case Wanderlei would never have been busted by an agent showing up without forward notice, and Jon Jones wouldn't have hid underneath a training cage to avoid a random test. There are plenty enough examples of fighters being caught or at least tested with no prior alert.
>Let me tell a completely unrelated story for no real reason
Cool story bro

Cry some more, faggot

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gaDOOOSH

Considering the fact that he actually moved into the punch with his chin up in the air I'd say that's impressive that he popped back up so quick.

I lift not even half of what Isley does and I’d happily take him on.

>they’re taking less or weaker drugs
>they know what their peers are taking and they want testing that will force them to play on a more even field
That’s not that complicated. Athletes who push for more testing are just coping.

>they’re taking less or weaker drugs
doesn't help them with testing for shit

>they know what their peers are taking and they want testing that will force them to play on a more even field
yeah, makes a whole lot of sense if you yourself aren't juicing, doesn't it?