Your thoughts on this?

your thoughts on this?
as a man that has never had a gf, I kind of agree to some degree

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I'm independent and self sufficient, but the bigger underlying problem is never having experience in the first place. If you've never experienced something, it's going to feel completely alien and distant to you if you try it. Being independent and alone for so long isn't really the problem. If I got a gf somehow, I'd have no idea what the fuck to do or how to keep the relationship alive because it's something I've never encountered before.

>self sufficient
I do want a gf but only to share my hikki lifestyle with and girls don't like to stay inside all day unless they're mean.

Pretty true, because if you think about it
>what would a girl bring into your life if you already have everything perfectly under control

most people on here don't even know what the next step is after getting a gf. okay so you have a gf, what are you going to do to keep your relationship with her stable? and the fact of the matter is, people on here are so far gone from the responsibilities and traumas of human interaction they keep this fantastical imagining of what a relationship is when in reality its far from a walk in the park.

my gf is a bitch sometimes, ill have to call her out on her vapid bullshit occasionally and she will reiterate saying that i'm giving her attitude because she doesnt have any argument to fall back on. then in absence of my thinking ability ill start a back and forth between her and me. needless to say, having a gf is great and all. but there are a lot of pros and cons. and its not the be all end all of achievements in life. and im willing to bet there are people who wish they were single after getting into toxic relationships and what not.

Yes, but you don't need to invite a girl to really be a part of your life just for vagina. You would be trading doubling your efforts to babysit a slob in exchange for a vagina that might not even put out when you want it too.

The main reason to secure a particular vagina is so that nobody else fucks that vagina but you

Never had a gf either. 23 already and I've gotten used to relying on myself. I'm trying to get a degree so at this point girls just seem like a distraction.

>Most people who are single for a while have standards
Who knew

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> so that nobody else fucks that vagina but you
kek, most grills have probably already been fucked by hundreds of dudes by this point. Or they'll fuck Tyrone or Chad behind your back.

This is where I'm at right now at 26. I have better than average social skills, a decent paying job that I enjoy, and am physically attractive. I don't have an ego about it because I'm well aware I didn't work for shit and am grateful for what I have in life. Most of the time I lose interest with perspective partners because I'm content in my quiet lifestyle and want to avoid as much drama and toxic bullshit as possible. I suppose I'm a bit misanthropic, but when social society is as shitty as it is, I don't see it as a bad thing to not want to fit into the nonsense.

After having been single for so long, I do think there is a huge hurdle to overcome. My life is great right now. Hell, I don't have many friends because hanging out with people in general seems like a chore. I hate to sound diminutive, but I just really enjoy my own company.

One day I may meet the right person. I might not. I'm sure I'll be fine either way. Life is a blessing. Thanks for reading my blog post.

I disagree. I don't NEED someone else in my life. That's not my definition of "love". I WANT someone in my life. Someone kind, caring, understanding.

The girl being s decent person and making your life better. Unfortunately, that's asking too much from today's whores

>it takes something extraordinary to convince them that they need you in their life
The roastie who wrote this got rejected for the first time or is mad that she couldn't manipulate some guy

>your thoughts on this?
>feels all day after finding out she moved on.
>feeling a longing I have never really felt, and just gutted
>I hate she makes me feel this way.
i been alone for over 30 years, we are just pussies.


this emo shit station we got going at work isn't fucking helping much either.

Not really. People who are single long are of often just ugly and unwanted males and are hard to love because they are unlovable.

it doesn't make sense to you that people who enjoy regular relationships their whole life form lives that are more open to relationships than the perpetually single? are you a female, that would explain the brainlet post.

No I'm an ugly unwanted male. Look at how desperate the other ugly unwanted males are on this site and you'll see that the perpetually single want relationships, they just don't get to have them.

You need to stop thinking your mental illness induced negativity is anything close to rationality.

I realize you won't, but I'm not at all surprised that a lot of the criticism of "ugly and unwanted males" are coming from themselves.

Why do you feel like you belong on Jow Forums? Why do you insist on disrespecting the people who enjoy coming here?

who said anything about not wanting them

People who are single for a while are the hardest to love because they are undesirable.

If you need to convince someone of something they don't really want it.

that's just another self hating cuck who is part of the problem. women definitely do fucking suck don't try to deny it.

nobody is trying to convince themselves they don't want it, it's just recognized that they come with changes you might not want. seriously can you be a brainlet cuck somewhere else?

I'm not mentally ill and I'm not being negative. I'm being realistic and saying that I do not agree with the picture as a perma-single loser.

These two ideas sound compatible to me.

no, you specifically tried to steer attention away from women by saying men are doing this to themselves. it's the fucking toxic masculinity argument disguised. you're male sexists.

Why are you getting so hostile that someone disagrees with your picture? It's clear this is a cope for single people, but instead of thinking for a second you'll just spout buzzwords like "brainlet" and "cuck" the hallmarks of a brain-dead wannabe normie.

no, i made a clear argument see fucking here

>kek, most grills have probably already been fucked by hundreds of dudes by this point. Or they'll fuck Tyrone or Chad behind your back.

only if you let them get away with it

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You need to calm down. No one is steering attention away from anything. There is nothing to be gained from my posts. These are mere weekend night (my weekends are during the week) whims. There's no need to bombard me with accusations and buzzwords. If anyone's mind is changed from a thread on Jow Forums one way or another, their mind wasn't of much importance.

I don't care about your battle of the sexes.

Usually I agree, but what he said fits here. A lot of people see a relationship as some cure, and think it's going to be like some anime or movie romance, when those don't exist in real life. I've never had a relationship ever, haven't gotten close, but I've seen in others that it's work. Sometimes dumb work. There are a good amount of things that look dumb and unappealing. I'm not saying you shouldn't aim for a relationship, but just don't expect it to be some smooth, easy thing.

and fuck you too with your fucking simmer down post. i shouldn't simmer down. this world is a fucked up place for men and that'd be okay if it wasn't constantly shoved down your throat that you're the fucked up one making it bad for women. it's fucking great for women. i hate society, we need to fucking turn it around.

Why would you enjoy coming here? This is coming from someone whose spent years on Jow Forums. This isn't the place to socialize or make friends, there's no fun to be had at all. It's just endless scrolling and arguments. That's all Jow Forums ever was. It's the same recycled discussions splayed out over a page with a couple of pornographic images to entice you into their threads. And you call that enjoyment?

You could get more enjoyment out of knitting than sitting on your chair scrolling through Jow Forums. Honestly. If you were to knit in your free time instead of coming here you would actually have a more fulfilling life. While you're at it, get off the internet. People who browse here are disrespected because they don't want to see what life has to offer. I'm not some kind of pseudo-guru saying you should get out and improve yourself, just get off here. Anything. LITERALLY anything would be better than wasting your time on the internet. Go rape a person for godsakes just the get the fuck off your computer.

28-year-old almost-boomer here, I can relate. Between work, friends, escorts, hobbies and spending time with my sick dad I'm nearly 100% filled out. A partner would have to be very worthwhile for me to cut time from other things.

This is the closest I can get to socializing. Sitting alone in my room knitting for no one is not going to make me happy normie. Everyone is on the computer now, getting off it would change nothing.

I would consider you Generation X if my arbitrary generational model means anything to you.

First of all
>NORMIES REEEEEEEEEEEEE
Now that that's out of the way, I have a short list of things to call you out on:
>my gf
okay we both know that's bullshit, you're browsing r9k at peak hours of the night
>what are you going to do to keep your relationship with her stable?
fuck are you even talking about? All you have to do is enjoy their company, and have them enjoy yours. I can't imagine a relationship not being "stable" when those two req's are fulfilled.
> its far from a walk in the park
fuck off? no one (would have cos you don't have a gf) a gun to your head, forcing you to have bad dinner dates.
> there are people who wish they were single after getting into toxic relationships
see above point? And lets be honest here, none of the dudes here are broken from trauma or some shit, they just don't know how to deal with certain shit and they have had some bad experiences. It takes one good blowie from a kind girl to quit being an incel

I disagree. I think people who've always been taken are the hardest to love because they don't think you're special

>The girl being s decent person and making your life better.
i doubt she could do that now, anything she can provide i do better.
>Unfortunately, that's asking too much from today's whores
see we on two different pages, i dont care about them anymore.

Having reached my early 40's as a Wizard, I would absolutely agree.

But an additional element not on the list would be the mental changes that happen with age. I've reached the point where I am starting to become less and less inflexible. Too much of my personality is already formed now, and it was formed alone.

Ironically, I've never been in such a good position in my life, as far as dating goes. But it's all such a bother at this point.

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As a man who has had plenty of gfs and now would rather live my life simple and single... it would take one hell of a woman to get me back in the dating game again.

>good position
>everyone your age has kids already
lol

Wait, you still think you're special? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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>t. incel

Go suck yourself off faggot then you wouldn't need to complain. Or are you too fat to reach your own dick?

Not them, however I've had more fulfilling conversations on Jow Forums than in reality, or any other website. Arguing is a component to conversation, and while it occurs much more frequently here, it has also trained my nerves since there is constant conflict here. If anything it has healed the damage from my years in public education and balanced out the solitude I experienced after graduating high school. I can hold conversations fine in reality, though the topics are a lot more mundane.

Furthermore life outside of speaking with unfiltered people on the internet and consuming niche media is entirely boring from my perspective. Knitting is tedious and would only intensify the masculinity-related bullying from my family more than just being a virgin at 25. Other hobbies get tedious or boring quickly as well, even the video games I cherish dearly become repetitive when I cannot find work (and often I do not have the time or energy when I am working). Studying eccentric topics is something I am the most into, however that requires socializing with eccentric people since the mind is typically limited in what it can creatively generate. How can you look up something odd and interesting when you don't even know it exists? That's where the odd people that do manage to know about these things come in. This site is full of niche interests and odd people, it's like a gold mine for me. Even a depressive place like this has taught me much over the past decade or so.

>I don't know what a relationship is

That's somewhat true. Life is a balance tho. Try to create that balance within yourself to become a decent person.

So why the fuck are you here then? Go rape your gf or go knit a noose.

A lot of older women trying to find a professional accomplished man around my age. Especially common among well-educated and career-minded women.

Boy, where the fuck have you been?

I don't want love. I've been 25 years on this earth and not once have I felt love towards another; I have seen countless 'loving' relationships become a matter of "we MUST do-" rather than "We FEEL we should-", with these relationships devolving rrom initial bursts of infatuation to the realization that each person is attached to another that either doesn't love them or who they don't love: COUNTLESS TIMES .

Too many times these couplings become routine, a thing people must put up with just because...

I'm not bothered at all by being a virgin or feeling this way. I just wish I could find and stay with God,sex and girlfriends don'tmatter at All.

i have literally never loved anything
if someone made me love, i'd probably need to lock them in my basement

>you need to be convinced that you need something

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you can suck your own dick? Wow you must be some kind of champion. Look how defensive you got over a few little comments, you are clearly a specially evolved chad with a girlfriend and blooming social skills irl, don't mind me.

Actually, fuck off retard, don't spill your faggy fantasies all over the internet cos it makes you feel better about your 3 inch dick and 47 inch waist.

>>what are you going to do to keep your relationship with her stable?
>fuck are you even talking about? All you have to do is enjoy their company, and have them enjoy yours.
Yes and there comes a point where that enjoyment can halt for whatever reason. You have to keep that enjoyment there, which can come with progression and the like. Don't be fooled by faggot couples on social media who only show off their highs and make it look like they never have problems.

not him but genuinely fuck off normie

Problems are alright, but if you can't work them out it isn't inherently your fault. When two people are really compatible, it just works like that. I have friends who I've known since I was three and we can literally do nothing together but have fun, I just ave to find someone like that who doesn't have a dick rofl

Most of you are too far damaged. A relationship is a ton of work, you need a lot of experience for it to last or work out. When you've made it to like 23 - 25 with no relationship experience, it will never work. You're so used to being alone and solitude that you'll fuck it up very quickly. You guys have no idea what goes into a relationship. You have to be together almost 24/7, you know all her secrets she knows all of yours, you eventually live together sharing a bathroom. A guy that is comfortable in solitude will not last.

But most of you are also virgins or very inexperienced as well, so you wouldn't be keeping a woman around in the first place.

I would say what you are talking about depends of the type of people we are dealing with and it doesnt apply to all relationships.
Despite me being a khv, i have several close friends that have girlfriends and i've been around long enough to watch how they discuss and argue and how it diferent it is from couples.
The ones that have typically more "extroverted" gfs have the same exact problems you are describing, and cant even have a arguement with logic and reason, and the girl quickly falls into a state of absolute absence of any sort of reason from the boyfriend. Ending in a cold stalemate that last around the rest of the day.
In the other hand, the ones who have more "introverted" girls as their girlfriends dont discuss that much, and most of the time one of the sides falls and gives reason to the partner and admiting they were wrong.

I wasn't trying to say you are at fault if you can't work through shit. It's a 2 way street as they say. Just saying it's not as simple as just sit around and do nothing but enjoy each other's company.

Adding on to your point. Most parents seem to despair about their relationship being bad if they argue, however I think it's a great practical example of an actual relationship. Everybody seems to treat relationships as being "greener on the other side" due to their limited perspective and the fact that people will put on airs when around other people. We don't see what happens behind closed doors. It's very rare to see a couple fighting in front of other people due to the social stigma.

>be pansy with your girl
>sigh, why are relationships so bad?!
(you)

basically seeYou can fuck off too, you aren't better than anyone here and you too, probably have a three inch dick and a 47 inch waist. Go play in fantasyland with

Introverted girls that aren't hideous are gems, too bad they're outnumbered like 1000 - 1. Women are naturally extroverted and social.

Enlighten us, relationship guru. What do you gain with experience that's critical for making a relationship work? We need specifics.

but fuck man, it SHOULD be. I'd put a ring on a landwhale with Hillary's face tattooed on her chest if I could just have that

If you're a loner or alone all the time you'll never understand. You have to constatnly be talking to these girls, texting them, listening to their problems, listening to gossip about their friends and friends relationships, they need constant attention. If you're used to be alone and only relying on yourself, its just not going to work. Especially if you're mid 20's and never even had a relationship. Its just not going to work.

not with that attitude bucko

I can't do 2 things that I've found so far, at least looks wise. Fatties and a full black person (as in obvious both parents are black, no mix). Fatties are just disgusting and unless they have an actual health issue that somehow causes it and makes it unmanageable, their sloth ways over shadow any good personality traits. And I just can't get into full black chicks. If that makes my standards high, or if that makes me shallow and judgemental, so be it.

You guys have to also understand that admitting to a girl that your a virgin or never had a relationship in your mid 20's, is about the same as her admitting to you that she slept with 10+ guys before you. Its just not good.

the basic bitches and roasties that I've dated irl wear their high partner counts as proud badges

If you don't actually care, than dont even bother posting, faggot

I feel that shit, but (and not in a weird gay way) do you ever just despair at the fact that you don't have someone to talk to? That you don't have someone to show that funny video, or laugh with over a stupid joke you saw? Doesn't it hurt to not have someone to lean on when you've had a shit day, someone to encourage you when you feel like dying? I can deal with anything but a bad personality, because when it comes down to it, having that connection is what separates a walking vagina from a companion or a friend.

How old are you? Hate to break it to you bro but what you're looking for won't be found in a woman. Try a bro or a dog lol. Its not redpill bullshit, women really are walking vaginas. Walking baby makers.

Of course I feel you. It should just be all personality, but I don't know what to tell you. I try not to have high standards or anything, but those just don't do it for me. I don't want to be up close and near them, and when I say that I don't me in their area, just like up close to them and personal to like kiss or something.

The thing is that people are not either black or white, introverted or extroverted. They are a mix, a grey mix, some people are more closed to strangers and act super shy, but when around close friends they talk and act like the same way extroverts do aswell for example.

I cant give you really a hint of about the ration of introverted to extroverted girls, i've tons of them in my university, sadly many already had boyfriends and the others didnt even give me a chance.
But i do completly agree that women are on average much more extroverted and social creatures than men. Otherwise there would be an Jow Forums for women whith the equal user base.

This. The worthless dribble the roastflap spits out just never ends.

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It doesn't align with the memes about singles. You're single because you live in mommies basement, you're not self sufficient you're poor, you're not hard to love you're just pretending to be nice instead of being yourself bro.

this one
user you are right :)

Just having a loyal, virgin girl is the bare minimum and not enough. I'm staying a virgin for life unless a truly special person comes along. Sure, I might date people I think might be the one, but I'll wait at least two years before having sex.

Shy extroverts aren't introverts you dumb faggot normie.

does she need to be a virgin too to be special?

Honest question, what is the difference? The shy extrovert doesn't want to be alone a good amount of time, but they end up that way?

Yes, absolutely. Someone who had no sexual restraint isn't even a consideration for me. Non-virginity is a deal breaker.

That's funny. Most people value qualities like independence and self sufficiency. What's ironic is if you have that and no experience, apparently people are lying to you that they value it. Why do you people poke around the bush when these fucking topics come up. You're being lied to about this stuff. They just don't like you, they don't value these things.

Someone who prefers to talk to others but keeps to themselves out of fear. An actual introvert prefers being alone to being around a person they don't know, to the point that being alone makes them feel good, and being around someone they don't know or even just more than one person they do know makes them feel uncomfortable and drained.

wow user you are just like me and many other's on this board
that makes me happy
you know what? we can live and die together as virgins if you want to

Probably gonna happen, yeah. Could I go to the bar, hit up some really drunk bitch ,who won't care what I look like or act like, and get my dick wet? Probably, with enough tries. Could I just buy a hooker? Yeah, of course. Do I want to? Hell no.

>Just having a loyal, virgin girl is the bare minimum

I feel you and know what you are thinking, but honestly you can very well cross the "virgin" as a requirement for a partner.
There are a lot of women that may have had 1 or 2 previous boyfriends and still be loyal interesting, have similar tastes and opinions as you do.
The thing you should be running away from is women that are promiscuous, and partake in the "hook up" culture.

I am also a KHV and i honestly have seen countless women that were not virgins, but i could connect with, share interests and have similar ideals of intimacy. And also hated clubs and normalfag parties.

This is my best word of advice user. Also dating and relationships require work and change on boths sides, so while a girl may not have the similar tastes as you do have at the begining, she might change and start to like new stuff you introduce. This of course will also happen to you.

How would that even occur? Bad childhood experiences trying to socialize?

orignioly this

>also hated clubs and normalfag parties
then where do you go to find girls?!?

Can't stand bars, clubs, or parties. Not super interested in girls who are.

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exactly this
if i wanted to lose my virginty to a random whore
i could have just gone into a brothel
I just don't understand why girls don't think the same

btw: captcha is cancer

This may be a hard concept for your normie brain, but some humans inately prefer to be alone. Not as many that don't, of course.

>you have to convince them they need you
fuck, why did this make me so angry

Yeah, no, that's gonna be a no from me mate. No hymen, no diamond. Maybe you can find women who are not virgins whom you relate to or share opinions with, but for me a non-virgin and someone I share any tastes or opinions with are mutually exclusive.

>then where do you go to find girls?!?
Boy, if you hate bars and clubs and parties, then dont go there to find girls, simple.
You can meet them anywhere else, work, classes, group projects. There are honestly plenty of women in STEM degrees at my university that dont like parties, love games and autistic animu. You just need to get to know them.
Try to join groups of things that normalfags usually dont like, like literature for example.

How the fuck do you think you will find a girl that doesnt like bars and clubs if you keep looking for them at thoose places?

>but for me a non-virgin and someone I share any tastes or opinions with are mutually exclusive.
Dont worry user, once time passes and you start to meet more and more people you will surely change your opinion, i was pretty much the same as you a few years back.
But anyway, best of luck to you and your goals.