How many of you can honestly say on your death beds that you actually gave life your 110% effort before giving up? I don't think there's one user here that can. You are all a bunch of weak spineless losers, you want something done? Then go do it. Fat? Lose weight. Social anxiety? Get the fuck off your computer and integrate yourself SLOWLY into society. What ever your problems in life are, if they are fixable, fix them. If they aren't, get over it. If you wanna be happy, you'll do what I tell you faggot. Now go. GGGGOOOOO!!!!
The more I tried, the more I failed and dissapointed myself but you normalfags just don't get it
Nolan Barnes
i almost feel sorry for you. Almost.
Christopher Jackson
lmao This is the dumbest attitude in the world right now.
Put it this way op. Most of us have put a hell of a lot more into it than you could handle.
You're the type, that if you had any real problems, would have went completely mental before you were 20.
Josiah Foster
Comfy excuse loser user
Adam Phillips
What's the point of putting forth all this effort to become a normalfag that almost certainly won't work? Wouldn't it be a lot easier to just kill yourself?
Thomas Walker
nah, i'll just wait until i die.
Wyatt Sanders
You can't give 110%.
Logan Jones
whilst this is true you can't expect these people to listen to such a shitty way of telling them to go do something about their issues. give better advice also and you make it sound like fixing those issues are hella easy when they just aren't. all you've done is make them feel less motivated by showing them people still don't understand them. this post is shit and so are you, come back later with a more constructive way of helping or don't come back at all.
Grayson Morris
I have no other problems other than I don't particularly like living. Nothing feels like it's worth doing. Not really sure how I'm supposed to fix that other than killing myself. Would love if you could explain it to me.
James Rodriguez
oh shut the fuck up. you have NO idea what its like to suffer from massive depression and other mental disorders which cause you to have no interest in accomplshing anything. we are slaves to our brain chemistry. im literally not capable of feeling joy or happiness, so i have no reason to go out and do anything or better myself. its not hard to understand.
Jayden Lewis
ITT: Anons give lame excuses for why they're unhappy. Fuck that, these losers don't give a fuck. Whether you come at them with a blunt or kind approach, they still give you the same excuses >oh my unfixable depression >oh my unfixable anxiety >i'll always be a loser >blah blah blah Most of your problems are fixable. The problem is you lack the time, effort, perseverance, and drive to fix them, not to mention your psychologically making the problems harder by implying that they're permanent. You are literally slaves to your self defeating mindset, and change starts in the mind. Even as you're reading this post right now you're getting ready to post your pathetic replies >le you just dont understand >fuck outta here with your meme advice This knee jerk cope of a response is what's keeping you from living your dreams. But I'm done preaching to you guys. If you want to choose to live the rest of your lives miserable, which is exactly what most of you do, go right head. I won't be there with your on your death bed. Nobody else will, and you will breath your last breath with regret because you refused to do what it takes to live the life that you WANT. It'll be nobody's fault but your own. Not you parents, not your bully, nobody. You choose to sit there and let archaic ideas of stagnation and wallowing in pity over what happened in the past consume to into a redundant any circular mindset of self pity. To the point where you literally ENJOY self pity. You glorify it. That's why you post in depressed song threads, and feel tavern threads. Because you believe that this is all you have left, when it isn't. Now go. Go ahead and write me your pathetic little excuses.
>The problem is you lack the time, effort, perseverance, and drive to fix them, Fine then, THIS is my problem. What fucking difference does it make? Just saying that this is my problem isn't going to magically make it go away is it? Lack of desire isn't going to be fixed by you pointing it out, is it?
Also, >is what's keeping you from living your dreams I don't have any dreams to begin with you faggot.
Luke Fisher
>I dont have any dreams to begin with There's part of your problem, I think most people have a huge misconceptions about dreams. They don't necessarily have to be material things (i.e I wanna live in a new house and drive a tesla, etc). For example, one of my dreams is to work hard on my mental and emotional state with mindful meditation, a well balanced diet, exercise, and positive social interaction until I reach a stage where I feel my anxiety is nonexistent. This just one example of a goal of mine that keeps me going in life, and I've slowly been making progress. From that progress arises the motivation to fix other things in my life. This is how your brain works. Your brain is like a puzzle. As you learn how it works and figure shit out, you gain more confidence. More confidence = more drive to fix more shit. You see where I'm going with this? These are the steps I took that literally turned my life around from a 24 year old neet living in my dads attic having panic attacks every night because I had no direction and didn't know where I was going. >oooh my but problems are bigger than yours You don't know that, and even if that is the case the steps to recovery remain the same. Stop with this fucking r9k piss contest, trying to see who has the shittiest life. It's pathetic. >lack of desire Lack of desire for what? Desire to live? Desire to go out and be social? Be specific.
Whether I'm a normie or not doesn't change that the reality of what I said. Please stop coping, user, I love you, I really do. I want the best for you. You don't have to live this in this hell where all you do is wake up and consume endless amounts of media inside of your comfort zone to cope for the lack of social interaction and sadness you experience.
Julian White
I'll put it simply. I'm completely indifferent about living or dying. I am perfectly content with my ability to interact with others, my level of education, and my physical health. I don't want to die so much as living is a chore that I have no justification for doing. Problem is I find killing myself also quite hard because of my own reaction to my survival instincts. Therefore living has always been the easier option to take. I plan on killing myself when dying is easier then living.
You aren't really saying anything new that my therapist hasn't said before so I'll say the same thing to you. I just want to be happy. The problem is that happiness is an end result of achieving other things not a means in its own rights. But for the life of me I can't think of anything else I want other than the vague notion of "happiness". Nothing matters to me. It feels like the whole world could burn around me and I wouldn't bat an eye.
Asher Reed
It's so jarring when you see someone saying something like this around here. I've always been what they call a "normalfag", but I've seen enough to know it's true. Good on you for puttin' it into words.
Lucas Bennett
Why not try helping others? I think a lot of the problem many people have is that they think of happiness as an endgoal, something to be achieved in and of itself. It isn't. It happens when we stop trying to do for ourselves and become the person we wish we had.
Gabriel Perry
It seems like you're in a better position that most robots. You can interact with others presumably without spazzing out, you're educated, and physically healthy. What is your definition of happiness? If it's a world where you're content with your self 100% of the time, and never had any more sad moments then what your chasing is a fantasy and you will always be depressed and disappointing. Even some of the best buddhist monks don't have fleeting moments of sadness. Nobody is happy 100% of the time. Instead strive to make the happy moments in life out weigh the bad moments. That's a much more realistic goal. >happiness is an end result of achieving other things Wrong. I'm sitting at my computer right now talking to you and I'm pretty content at this current moment in time. That happiness didn't come from me achieving some action beforehand, but from an understanding that I already have everything I need. This is going to sound really hippie tier but just hear me out. Look at the picture that's tagged to my reply. This is going to sound very memey (and it shouldn't but this is partly due to r9k constantly slandering good advice), but your thoughts precede your emotions, and vise versa. If you label yourself as a robot loser, then that's what you are and that's all you ever will be. You will constantly think lower of yourself because you gave yourself a label that implies there is a sort of social class that you're on the bottom of. However if you label yourself as a conscious being, you are now on the same level as everyone else. No human being has more worth than you. Changing your mindset like this changes the way you perceive others. You view them as apart of you, and not just some random civilian. And through this, you can now live in the moment, and live with love and peace it self. Sorry for the hippy tier blog desu
>It happens when we stop trying to do for ourselves and become the person we wish we had. I'm not sure if I'm not quite understanding what you're saying here but if I was to be 100% honest with myself right now the only person I want in my life is someone to enable my lifestyle. To do all of the hard things for me so I can live a life following the path of least resistance until my death. However I'm self aware enough of my own depression to realize that would actually be an incredibly self destructive thing if it came true.
>Why not try helping others? That sounds a lot like all the other, "why not this" "why not that". That's not to say you're wrong - you could very well be correct. It's just that, at what point when you keep trying things do you finally say that you're just going to stop trying? Because that's the problem I'm facing. I can try to wring a few more drops of motivation out of myself though but it's difficult. I've grown complacent after living with my own depression for so long. I have little energy to change it anymore. I'm fine with the idea of it killing me.
>I think a lot of the problem many people have is that they think of happiness as an endgoal, something to be achieved in and of itself. It isn't. I think you're absolutely right here. Happiness isn't an end goal. I just can't seem to find a path that leads me through happiness. Though I do appreciate people who help me try to find one.
Benjamin Hernandez
>What is your definition of happiness? I don't know anymore. It's been so long that I can't remember. All I know is that when I was a kid I would sometimes have this warm sort of glowing feeling inside and I think that's happiness? I don't want it all the time - I don't actually know if having it would change anything. I guess I'm just thinking that if I can experience happiness (even if it's just irregularly) again, my depression will go away and my motivation will return and I will desire things and my brain will be able to find something that it actually cares about.
I don't particularly think of myself as a loser. A robot sure, but in the sense that somehow my own thinking feels very robotic. It feels like all it would take is a few switches in my brain to be flipped (turn empathy back on, for example) and I'd go to being a "normal" person.
Noah Foster
Could you help me with Something OP? Im really bad with forgeting pain or what my problem is, to make a long story short. > be me, have older brother look up to him, always try to pick up things he also does > ever since i was young, everything i fuck Something up, may it be small or big he says things that an older brother shouldt say to family > Not the typical you idiotstuff but the stuff that makes you want to hit yourself and him > I cant believe we come from the same mother. I dont need a relationship with someone whos a lazy pig. and more, it may not seem hurtful for you since you havent experienced it or the Words dont seem that hurtful to you > but trust me, i have been enduring this for like 6 years and on > im not saying im a perfect angel, i fuck shit up too, and you have the right then to tell me that, but on that manner > this shit is too the point when I cant even make Jokes with him. I always think 5x before saying something because im worried ill sound weird or he Will think more less of me > shit is too awkwars between us, i just want a normal relationship with him > but everytime I want to, I keep thinking back to the things he Said to me, and they eyes, I cant even look him straight in the eyes sometimes, i hate it, it makes me feel less than him, I know he does he even told me that, he never respected me > i dont know what to do at this point, hes almost moving out the house in 1-2 years idk exactly Sorry if you dont understand this well, just wanted to share this, tell me if you have Some questions
Austin Roberts
Alright. I'm 5'3 as adult male. How can I change that? Oh, I can not.
Shit like "be confident" does NOT fucking help. You can be confident as fuck yet 12 year olds and females will be taller than you which makes your confidence look like short men syndrome. I am not even ugly at all. Every date I had admitted that it was my height. 2 even said that if I were taller - I'd be their ideal guy. Literally cucked by my height.
Around other guys you are a fucking bitch. I am decently fit as I am lifting for a year now. You are never the alpha male, you're never the leader. It fucking sucks.
Proof normie looks matter shit if you're short.
Evan Perez
There a plenty of guys who aren't 6ft and over studs and they have girlfriends. Now tell me the real reason why you're single? I'll do it for you. You spend your time browsing a website constantly telling you you'll never be able to find a girl because you're short. This then crushes your self esteem to the point where when it's some to approach females to make your move, you have no confidence, the one thing that is scientifically proven to boost your chances of getting a relationship. Are you well groomed? Do you have a decent hair cut? Hygienic? What about your conversation skills? All of these things matter too user. Quit focusing on what you can't change, and focus on the things you CAN change. You should always be striving to become the best version of yourself you can be. What good is it to complain about things you can't do anything about? I'm balding at 23, probably gonna be full bald before 30. I could sit in my room and cry about it, constantly affirming I'll never get laid because I'm bald, or I can work on the other aspects of me (working out, maybe grow a nice beard that suits baldies, dress nice) and approach females with confidence. Sure, some of them will reject me, possibly because of my baldness, and for you your shortness, but that's just the nature of the dating game. You keep trying until one of them say yes. >but Im tired of trying ive been trying for years rrrrrreeeeee The red pill is, it doesn't fucking matter. Keep trying or anhero. That's literally the only option.
Christian Martin
I knew a guy who was slightly shorter than you, was a visual novel elitist, and had successful relationships. I think you might have a complex going on. That's not to say your height doesn't mean certain women wont date you. It absolutely does. In just the same way that a women being as flat as a board is just not sexually attractive to some men. Perhaps I'm just being an armchair psychologist but the fact that you asked your dates if it was your height suggests you've got a complex about it. And it was just easier to respond yes it's your height that's the issue, not it's how you feel about your height that's the issue. Obviously we can't be certain but I hope you'll accept there are other possible explanations.
Jason James
How old are you and how often to do you socialize with people? And I don't mean your average "hey, hows the weather" small talk with your coworker. I mean a meaningful conversation with a close friend? Or a group of friends. You said you were content with your conversation skills, but how far do those skills go? Humans are social creatures, and socializing is an important aspect for a healthy mental and emotional mindset. I cant tell you so many r9k users who always brag about being alone. Those guys are delusional. Maybe they've grown accustomed to solitude overtime where it doesn't permeate their lives to the same degree as others, but they know deep down that they subconsciously long for the stimulation that positive social interaction brings. Simply going to work to make enough money to pay your bills to keep a roof over your head that is used to shelter you while you shit post is such a depression life (not saying this is your life specifically). I find that life becomes a lot more optimistic when I have friends to hang out with, future events to plan with them and just be free and laugh and talk. I don't know what to say anymore user, but if there's one piece of advice I wanna leave with you, it's to try your best not to let this board influence you. For most robots this is an echo chamber of mentally ill and damaged people where they check out of society. Their views will always be pessimistic and negative. This is regressive to someone like yourself who seems to want to better himself. >why am I not happy >what is the true meaning of happiness >how can I create lasting happiness Read up on articles, forums, and watch videos. until you gradually figure out what happiness means to you, and how you can achieve it, which i think is your main problem, that you simply dont even know what you want. We live in an age where we have an absurd amount of information resources that we can all collectively share and we don't take advantage of it.
>let me use shit tier retarded tactics that only brainlets fall for kys normalfaggot
Evan Clark
>let me continue to cope and rejecting ideas that would put me on the right path and keep searching for that qt virgin gf that will sweep me off my feet and make my depression and anxiety go away gl with that bud
Charles Martin
listen here you gigantic faggot of an op. go back to r/advice or whatever retarded cesspool you have came from. you are the reason why this fucking board is going down the shitter you subhuman self righteous fuck
Austin Green
>s-stop exposing me for the hypocritical coping cuck that I am lol
>posts on Jow Forums >Can't do much better than that, m8y
Lucas Clark
> i post le ebin smug animes its time for you to go back
Oliver Brooks
Why even pretend you care about the people here? You're not fooling anyone.
Jaxson Hall
you see he either wants (you)s or is a genuinely retaded nu normie
Ryan Kelly
>getting this triggered think you're on the wrong site
Christopher Hernandez
>samefag >triggered go back already
Nathan Thomas
5/10 for originality ("Just DO it. Dont let your dreams be dreams" cannot be outmemed) 6/10 for not providing examples or referring to your personal struggles (nobody really does what you're describing and the fact that you're here says much of you) 8/10 relevant image 6/10 for prompt (4 g's, 5 o's and 4 !'s) - it's simple and encourages responses without a question, but won't lead to much actual discussion.
6.5/10 overall. I expect a 404 after about 60ish responses if you don't babysit this thread.
You tried. Now try again but give closer to an hour to develop the post. You want to give 110%, don't you?
i'll die, reroll and maybe come back as a white chad. then my life will be easy mode and i will make fun of robot losers
Connor Reyes
I will also maybe join a white nationalist group just for fun
Henry Jenkins
Granted, OP sounds like a cheerleading normie, but there is a lot of merit to the point that none of us actually *do our best*, in any meaningful sense.
Some legitimate responses to that point are:
>Yeah but nobody does their best ALL THE TIME, and normies still get to enjoy life >Determinism means I can't do my best because I was fated not to >Doing my best is a trap that ends up serving the Jews / roasties / aliens
But while these are possible responses to OP's point, they all in some way concede the CORE of OP's point: that we don't do our best.
Luke Carter
I don't give a nigger's lips what you think cause I know my very existence pisses you off. It's why I'll never commit suicide cause I know how you seeth at my self-confidence. How I can just not ever bother trying to make friends or get with women and live as though I'm not impacted by it.
>You're the type, that if you had any real problems, would have went completely mental before you were 20.
M8 that's offensive i lost my mind(became schizo) at age 18 after having my dad die a year prior(mom was long dead) then losing two jobs in a month. Was not prepared.
As for op you sound like the typical 18 year old trying to motivate his psychological have not peers for self gratification. I was there before posting about lets list things that make life worth living for and shit. Then schizophrenia happened. Then i got fat from medication. No woman wanted me after schizophrenia. My personality became flat and i lost my good looks. My friends left me because of the insanity label. Things can get better from here but brute force via willpower is not a surefire way to success. You dont know shit and i can guarantee you're not succesful nor even at an age to be preaching about success.
David Morgan
I don't really have anyone I would consider a close friend. I don't really get a chance to have meaningful conversations outside of Jow Forums because in my experience the things I find meaningful make people feel inherently uncomfortable. In terms of my social skills I gauge myself strong because I believe I can do things like carry a conversation if needs be, give a good presentation, and recover awkward situations.
I'm not sure but I don't think I want to be alone. But whenever I put my foot out the door I come home feeling like I shouldn't have bothered leaving. That's not because I'm so "le smart" or some shit. I just really struggle to connect with the people I've met on a non-superficial level.
I would agree with you that this board is filled with a lot of people who have rather self destructive thinking. I don't much care for the autistic screeching but I do like some of what I read here and sometimes it does seem to connect with me. Jow Forums is the place I've found I feel most at home, though it's probably not a great fit.
I'll try to take what you've said to heart and the next time I have a spike of motivation I'll try to follow through with what you suggest. I do appreciate you taking the time.
As an aside if you're interested, my therapist believes I might be a high functioning autist and is forwarding me onto an adult assessment. I don't really know what I expect to come back from that test but maybe it'll at least start to narrow down the options.
Hudson Cox
This kind of thread occurs in varying levels of quality about 8 times a day and is never that successful unless it becomes an armchair psych thread.
His point is moot since it's a tautology.
Kayden Hughes
might as well go buy some guns then ... show the world what i'm capable of
>in my experience the things I find meaningful make people feel inherently uncomfortable. In terms of my social skills I gauge myself strong because I believe I can do things like carry a conversation if needs be, give a good presentation, and recover awkward situations.
I'm the same. I've been told I'm not autistic, but either avoidant or a "secret schizoid". I give an A+ presentation with 0 stage fright to audiences numbered in the 100's...because I just rehearse it. I have good conversations with people of both sexes...because I have had the conversation in my head ahead of time, rehearsing everything anyone might possibly say in response to anything I'm going to say. I can recover awkward situations...because when one arises I flip through my rolodex of "save moves" and use whichever one seems to fit, like an automaton.
But at no point during any of this do I feel like I've connected with anyone. I know what you mean about feeling like you needn't have bothered leaving the house.
Kayden Mitchell
I'm already at 80% and I can see that my condition has not changed, what's the point then? you'll need to work on your karma first
Noah Bailey
Whilst I can't say that I feel too similar I do find it interesting to read about how other people think. Reading stuff like this is part of why I feel more at home in Jow Forums.
Thanks for posting that, user.
Jeremiah Nguyen
Bro wtf are you talking about like seriously we are all gonna die no one cares I can off myself right now. You normies are so concerned about everything holy shit
Jason Ramirez
The real question is how many times can you put in 110%, fail, and then try again? At what point do you just give up? Because you will eventually give up. Maybe not after the first 10 times, or 50 times, or even 100 or 1000 times. But there will come a time when you look at all the failures that are your life and think to yourself, "fuck this, I'm not trying anymore".
Nolan Fisher
For about two years I have been depressed by choice, mainly due to the fact that I kept on fucking up at this early stage of adulthood, but then I realized that I need to grow the fuck up and own my own shit. I am taking every opportunity that I can, and I am starting to form my own ambitions and goals. If you are not fucked by a genetic disorder, then what is stopping you from being the best version of yourself?
