/fast/ - #324 - Halloween Edition

Water without salt is actually worse for you in regards fasting because it knocks oit your electrolytes faster

Coffee is harmfull to gut biome(extremely important, plays a role with b vitamins and vit d, which in turn makes your sleep and pile other vital functions far better.

Fucks up your sleep too which is huge. Sleep is #1 fitness related and best thing you can possibly get

Tea only mint.

Black Coffee can be used in pinch to kill sudden hunger spike, but you will feel that hunger later with twice the intensity

T. Experienced snaker and former coffee addict

they do but it's some retard bullshit instead of the slick as fuck dot method.

I use it to track bodyweight too and keeps me accountable

Shit myself? why

Ive been fasting since april, pretty good at eating one meal a week. Struggle to start the routine but once Im in it, im golden.
So basically I should just drink all of my yakult bottles at once while i'm not fasted? I wonder if that'd have more benefit than one a day.

idmprogram.com/how-caloric-reduction-wrecks-your-metabolism-calories-part-vi/

can i get a tl;dr of this giga article? ive red that calories in and out is a bad system and what matters is hormones and your TEE. how dose this relate to fasting? wont i just go back to my inital beer gut after i stop fasting since my body will go back to its BSW?

>Gospel of Thomas

Yeah. This is why heretics get burnt at the stake.

jesus fasted for 40 days you nig nog.
thers also a friday fast in christiantiy

Let's say you want to fast.

You've been bad, eating basically a high carb diet. Your glycogen and water stores are maxed out.

Is the body using the glycogen for fuel RATHER than fat, or is it burning fat AND glycogen, at a reduced rate?

I've done fasts with high carb and fasts with zero carb refeeds, but my overall progress was basically the same from both fasting routines.
I'm just confused at how this works, logistically.

the thought is that extreme caloric reduction while eating food will make your body think there is only so much food around because the hormone insulin pushes your body to store energy instead of burning stored fat
so the body reduce it's caloric expenditure by reducing body heat muscle mass heart rate
The body can't reduce caloric expenditure 100% so you will burn fat but when you start eating at what your "original tdee" was you start packing on fat.

it's partially true but not a killer for CICO especially if you eat low GI/GL foods

GI is basically how much a certain food spikes insulin.
all carbs spike blood sugar (which spikes insulin), some "non-carbs" like powdered whey protein do too.

fasting/ketosis/paleo are all a different way of forcing low insulin and priming your body for burning fat quickly without killing your TDEE

Some people treat fasting as a habit breaking period where they learn to control their desire to eat by not eating for an extended period of time.

fasting promotes autophagy which helps your body recycle old broken cells into their base parts which are then used to create new cells.
fasting also promotes the production of hormones like HGH which is basically natty steroids, which helps prevent muscle loss/tdee reduction.

Why the FUCK am I so thirsty doing OMAD? Will too much fluoride break my fast?

You can drink anytime on OMAD retard

Yeah but why do I feel like I need to drink so much?

I've not put myself on a diet before, nor had any kind of attempt at weight loss. But I've been doing a lot of research and it seems that long extended fasts would actually suit my needs pretty well. I'm a 280lb male and would probably attempt to fast for about a month.

Do you think it's possible to go full-fast immediately or should I make some preparation to build up to it?

Eating is fun and helpful … "Nothing better but of eating, drinking, and being merry."

>Jesus fasted
Thus he's plausibly an authority on it.

>40d
This was supposedly figurative speech then, BTW.

"All Scripture is profitable for … "

The validity of such a document is of great potential, especially because of how important it is. "The [leaders] were taking the keys of knowledge and having them hidden. They were not entering nor allowing those who wanted to doing so."

fellow omader here. i dont feel like i need to drink a lot.Define your "lot" maybe you were not drinking enought before and now you feel the proper need?

kidney problems

ok thanks i get it better now.you seem to know your shit.

Is it possible to enjoy carbs then?

Look into glycemic load and glycemic index
those should answer your questions.

Day 3 of omad and its starting to feel normal. Much easier than I anticipated. Not going to weigh until end of day 7. I feel like gut and back fat has already shrunk a bit. Probably water weight but hey, it's all good.

Is it worth dry fasting if you're not in ketosis yet? Can I start my fast with a 48 dry fast, refeeds, 72hr snake juice. Or am I going to not get the benefits of the dry fast until I'm in ketosis?

Not sure if dry fasts are worth it desu

best drink your piss boy.

Snake juice wasn't a thing back then

I kinda miss the dancing skellys desu, any way to get that font for Jow Forums?

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super snake juice was a thing tho

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Day 11 of snake fast/water fast. First three days I dry fasted then got too light headed and drank snake juice. Had a grilled chicken sandwich sunday from McDonalds. Went from 215 to 199 as of yesterday. FeelsGreatMan

Why only mint tea?

>you need to eat goy

>coffee is bad guys
There is no proof of that and only proof that it is good for fasting. It actually helps gut biome and increases metabolism. It does not spike insulin either. It is bad for sleep though.

keto is a meme. Keto merely mimics fasting. Basically you get some of the benefits of fasting from keto but fasting is the be all end all of health tbqh frankly. People do keto for 6 months then in 2 months gain all of their weight back after going back to a regular diet. Fasting is the only real way to fix your insulin and reset your appestat. Where as people who fast lose the weight and somehow manage to keep it off. They have known this since for ever. Watch this movie.nfb.ca/film/matter_of_fat/
Do not get me wrong keto is probably necessary if you have diabetes to make sure you cure it but it is unnecessary for long term health. Just stop eating processed garbage. There were almost no fat people 100 years ago because people ate less frequently and only really ate what their moms/wives cooked them.

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yes. I would try and go 4 hrs first though fatty. You can for sure do 30 days technically but I doubt you make it 36 hours. Report back and tell us how it went though.

I only eat what your mom/wife cooks up for me. Usually it's a fat log of shit.

good job bro. We are all gonna make it.

thats too bad. She usually makes me meat and potatoes.

Cole says you can eat doo doo, but food? If she's cooking food for you she must not care about your health.

i dont know where this is going and I don't know or care who cole is.

What happened in the last few months to make Cole persona non grata in the fucking fast thread?

15 hours into my very first dry fast (have been water fasting for months though) and since this is unknown territory to me I'm a little afraid of doing it for too long. Cole says you need a minimum of 72 hours but I can't imagine not drinking water for this long. When should I drink water again (gonna continue water fasting after that)?

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>dry fast
why? What happens after 72 hrs? You are just super dehydrated? Fat cells only leave the body when you urinate. Dry fasting is literally counter-productive.

Guys... today is the day... last day of eating more than once a day... reporting back on 31st Dec after 60days of OMAD. Starting at 90kg @6ft.

Wish me luck!

>what happened to "cole"?
if he is telling you to eat poop he is a fucking idiot.

good luck bro. Throw some 36 and 72s in there once a week and you should lose about 10-20 lbs.

dammit fasting must really be bullshit if the thread cycles so much. avocado, innawoods, grandpa omaw, now cole? it must keep going because it sounds so attractive but if mainstays keep dropping off it must not work.

Pretty sure you exhale fat and dry fasting increases autophagy. Anyway, I'm just wondering how long I should go before I drink water again.

>exhale fat
What the fuck are you talking about? Who is in charge of these threads? Do you guys just believe every retarded thing you read?
It probably cycles so much because after people lose their weight they go and carry on living their lives and stop sticking around this thread. If people knew you could just not eat and get skinny then most gyms and health stores would close. Weight watchers would go out of business. Oprah Winfrey would have never gotten rich and would probably not be a fat ass.
All it takes to get fit is
1. Stop eating for a specified time
2. You lose about 3/4 lbs of fat a day
3. You need salt, water, and potassium to live so be sure to intake some daily
There is plenty of science and shit that could explain all of this but who really cares? Just follow those steps.

Fat is turned into co2 you fucking retard, that's how you lose the weight

Read the post once more dipshit. Where do you think the fat goes while fasting?

>citation needed
Please learn to read and then understand that the whole concept that "you breathe it out" is how metabolism work but your fat cells still leave your body through urine when you piss.

You metabolize it. Dry fasting does nothing which is what we are debating.

he's talking about the fact that fat is metabolized to make water when dryfasting

Guys I'm on day 4 of my fast and I'm drinking snake juice. Is my urine supposed to be yellow or dark yellow? It's freaking me out but I feel completely fine. Should I add more water to my snake juice?

I doubt it.

>tfw on IF and losing weight
>still making minimal dyel gains

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gotta train that nervous system

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckkkkk!!!!!

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I just wanna know how long to do this shit bois

Go for it... eat all of it... don't hold back... bath in the sugar... the insulin... the pleasure...

At least this way the lasting effect will be minimal...

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He didn't, and Thomas isn't legitimate. He fasted for 40 days and 40 nights in the legit bible ya brainlet.

thanks, I think observing other people gives me the rest of your answer
I see people regularly consuming carbs and eating throughout the day, and dont really exercise at all without gaining weight.

My thinking is that while its inefficient as fuck, your body does have access to fat stores while glycogen stores are maxed out.
Or these people are doing -something- to counterbalance their carb intake, like skipping breakfast or whatever.

>Free Starbucks card with medical exam
oh the irony, god bless burgers.

>cole tells people to literally eat shit
i haven't seen that but it seems bogus. show me where he says that.

70 hours in boys. fuck it I'm drinking powerade.

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>the legit bible
Meanwhile, "the Living One amongst you" …

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>1 hour 10 minutes and forty seconds into my fast

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This should be the OP.

>only mint
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>falling for the starvation mode meme

>falling for the "starvation mode meme" meme

Just ended a 10 day fast. Feel happy I did it.

i did an 8 day dryfast. you keep urinating throughout it.

You dryfasted for 8 days? How is that even possible?

by laying in the bed all day doing nothing

How long did you go the first time you dryfasted?

I'm not doing that
Just saying that people who do are mostly just in their room all the time
I've read a couple of blogs and videos about them

I think dryfasting is a retarded meme

as if i could only sleep for like 3 hours the last few days

5 days

its easier then you think. most people are just scared, and maybe they should be. if you accept the dark brown piss and dry feeling as okay, and feel how far you can go then 5 days should not be a problem.

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this one was pretty weird. i walked every day and it was fucking hot. i seemed to lose way to much weight.

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You've inspired me to do a 7 day dryfast.

but why did you use the term 'BLACKED' here? please explain.

He probably means that he blacked out his face

Where did you get that organizing textbox thing?

I want to dryfast and have one just like you do there. Help bro!

lol ohhhhh

You still lost the same amount of weight as you would if you didn't dry fast. What a waste of time.

>your brain on porn

>day 3
>lunch in half an hour
>dying to buy a rotisserie chicken and eat the entire fucking thing

Send help

I've eaten once in the last 13 days. Down 18 pounds.

Toss them out. They're worthless.

he says to drink pee pee. not totally unreasonable to assume that he would also recommend eating doo doo.

Starting 7 day dry fast.

Stats: 6 foot, 25, male, 320 lbs.

I will post my results at the end and give a report on the experience.

Is it true that all I really need in the snake juice is the potassium chloride and the sodium chloride? I can't remember where I heard that. What are the baking soda and magnesium sulphate really for if this is true?

not saying you should. i dont even know if it is beneficial. i just know that your body definitely create water from something (probably fat) because i do keep pissing now and then.