I don't know if leaning to the right on the political spectrum is correlated with disagreeableness, but leaning left is correlated with being agreeable.
So the logic goes "people on the left tend to be agreeable, when people get physically strong they tend to start leaning to the right on the political spectrum. Is that because of a change in their trait agreeableness?"
I hope you can understand my question and have a good answer.
When you're stronger you're more likely to call bullshit because you're less afraid or social rejection.
Higher self esteem + feeling of accomplishment help get you kicked out of the PC-suicide-cult.
Evan Peterson
Testosterone is positively correlated with disagreeableness. Lifting and gaining muscle/strength is correlated with increased testosterone. Men have higher testosterone than women and are by nature more disagreeable whereas women are more agreeable. You make the assumption. A woman needs to be agreeable because it makes her more compassionate and better for child bearing/caring. A man needs to be more disagreeable because if he’s not aggressive he won’t be able to provide for his family. Now that we’re as civilized and living as comfy as we are men are allowed to be soft and 50iboys, it’s why on average more democratic men tend to be lower test or atleast come off as such. It’s the same reason why all these sjws and feminist dudes are all pic related, they have hormone imbalances and are just agreeing with the moral majority around them.
It's also a question of correlation and causation. Experience changes a person. People tend to become more disagreeable by time. It might be that getting fit changes your perspective on some things.
Hudson Bennett
Most women are on birth control and are the opposite of agreeable.
Jayden Powell
>"Scientific study" measuring "agreeableness" with links to their political viewpoint. I wonder who could be behind this?
Juan Lopez
Redpilled.
Lucas Murphy
Based
Juan Lewis
i agree with people just so they shut the fuck up about whatever they're talking about because i actually don't give a shit about their opinion.
Luis Ross
>If you don't lean liberal in youth, you lack a heart. >If you don't identify as conservative when mature, you lack a brain.
Isaiah Flores
this knowing that you're stronger than your opponent makes you have the "no fucks given" attitude.
Evan Peterson
my basedboy looking friend of 12 years was talking to me about buying a switch, I kept telling him "no dont get it". I think he just bought it today. BAKA
Being weak makes you more likely to support and believe in slave morality and a strong centralized power to govern all men because you are unconsciously afraid of what will happen to you otherwise. Being strong makes you more likely to think in terms of independence and self-determination because you know you can take care of yourself and you don't want the pack to limit you. Weak people join groups because they want protection and resources they don't otherwise have access to. Strong people join them because they want to lead the group and build the group itself up to something better. If that isn't possible strong people would rather be lone wolves.
Henry Lee
It's possible yes, lifting weights can increase testosterone levels, increasing aggression and makes you more masculine. Men tend to be far less agreeable than women, men with autism tend to score very, very low on agreeableness, to the point that autistic triats have been labelled "ultra-masculine".
Low agreeableness means you're going to be far more independant, politically you may favour the right-wing (individualism, more freedom, less security), and in work life you're going to want to get yourself in a position where you have more autonomy, start your business, look after your own affairs, and these types of people are not going to want to see all their money being taken by the taxman.
Evan Jenkins
This.
Everything else is speculation and pseudo nonsense.
Males over the last 100 years have been lowering in test for various reasons. Lifters by nature will have higher test and therefore the affects of test will change their brain chemistry.
I know after I do some heavy lifts I don't give a single fuck about anything. There's probably some way to incorporate this into an anxiety remedy as well.
Aiden Collins
>leaning left is correlated with being agreeable. lmao
Isaac Roberts
The ones at the top don't need to negotiate The ones at the bottom crave equalization
Andrew Harris
>left wing people are agreeable Oh right cause burning down cities and calling everyone nazis is super agreeable
Joseph Foster
>Ieaning left is correlated with being agreeable. lol hahahhahahahahhaa ok
Easton Parker
>leaning left is correlated with being agreeable. mmm hahahaha vimeo.com/294694962
Yes actually it is, the media tells them that "x group" are nazis, the left does not question this and blindy attacks them. Do you not think that soldiers tend to be high in agreeableness? A pawn's worth lies is it's unquestioning obediance, and the use this has been put to for thousands of years is "go attack those guys".
Gabriel Hernandez
That's not the definition of agreeableness anyone was using in this thread and you know it you disingenous tankie shithead. Go get stabbed in the temple with an icepick
Christian Rivera
That is the only definition of agreeableness. Your name calling and logical fallacies are not real arguments.
Julian Perez
>Leftists blindly attacking free speech is proof they are not agreeable
Exact opposite user, it is proof they despise disagreement and demand the opposition be silenced, you do not think for yourself, you only serve the collective and fear any kind of free thinking.
Kevin Rogers
>lifting makes yoi a cuck for big business
Sounds like jewish science to me
Isaiah Clark
implying the right if it dominated discourse would not silence the free speech of its opponents
>what is mcarthyism
Evan Nguyen
mccarthy was 100% justified
Anthony Reed
People whose entire political ideology is built on the philosophy of individualism will attack free speech because people whose entire political ideology is built on the philosophy of collectivism attack free speech. Is this your train of thought here user?
Michael Morales
High test makes you want to struggle, fight, compete and win in the world, strong men don't want red tape and beauracracy slowing them down, why do you think men are more likely to vote Republican and women Democrat?
Samuel Campbell
People who say their entire political ideology is built on the philosophy of individualism will attack free speech because they have done so in the past.
just say you're pro fascism then and drop the act cause everyone sees through it.
Aiden Ross
>just say you're pro fascism then and drop the act cause everyone sees through it. And by "everyone" you mean all your dipshit antifart friends. Fuck off commie
Jeremiah Stewart
women want someone to call daddy in the bedroom and dominance in politics men want someone to call da- er god emperor in politics and a submissive girl in the bedroom rmyt
Alexander Wood
Various thinkers have pointed out that leftism is a kind of religion. Leftism is not a religion in the strict sense because leftist doctrine does not postulate the existence of any supernatural being. But, for the leftist, leftism plays a psychological role much like that which religion plays for some people. The leftist NEEDS to believe in leftism; it plays a vital role in his psychological economy. His beliefs are not easily modified by logic or facts. He has a deep conviction that leftism is morally Right with a capital R, and that he has not only a right but a duty to impose leftist morality on everyone. (However, many of the people we are referring to as “leftists” do not think of themselves as leftists and would not describe their system of beliefs as leftism. We use the term “leftism” because we don’t know of any better words to designate the spectrum of related creeds that includes the feminist, gay rights, political correctness, etc., movements, and because these movements have a strong affinity with the old left.
Noah Hill
So they're leftist collectivists pretending they care about freedom of speech? Do you have the names of these people, a source for your claims?
Jonathan Hill
Yes goyim big business will bring about the new reich! And no unions! They are communist and unpatriotic now get back to work!
Leftism is a totalitarian force. Wherever leftism is in a position of power it tends to invade every private corner and force every thought into a leftist mold. In part this is because of the quasi-religious character of leftism; everything contrary to leftist beliefs represents Sin. More importantly, leftism is a totalitarian force because of the leftists’ drive for power. The leftist seeks to satisfy his need for power through identification with a social movement and he tries to go through the power process by helping to pursue and attain the goals of the movement. But no matter how far the movement has gone in attaining its goals the leftist is never satisfied, because his activism is a surrogate activity. That is, the leftist’s real motive is not to attain the ostensible goals of leftism; in reality he is motivated by the sense of power he gets from struggling for and then reaching a social goal.
Ayden Gonzalez
Consequently the leftist is never satisfied with the goals he has already attained; his need for the power process leads him always to pursue some new goal. The leftist wants equal opportunities for minorities. When that is attained he insists on statistical equality of achievement by minorities. And as long as anyone harbors in some corner of his mind a negative attitude toward some minority, the leftist has to re-educated him. And ethnic minorities are not enough; no one can be allowed to have a negative attitude toward homosexuals, disabled people, fat people, old people, ugly people, and on and on and on. It’s not enough that the public should be informed about the hazards of smoking; a warning has to be stamped on every package of cigarettes. Then cigarette advertising has to be restricted if not banned. The activists will never be satisfied until tobacco is outlawed, and after that it will be alcohol, then junk food, etc. Activists have fought gross child abuse, which is reasonable. But now they want to stop all spanking. When they have done that they will want to ban something else they consider unwholesome, then another thing and then another. They will never be satisfied until they have complete control over all child rearing practices. And then they will move on to another cause.
Michael Butler
too many words
Angel Evans
>Ignore Democrats, antifa and socialists demanding hate speech laws and an end to individual liberty because... uh, Libertarians and the right wing have totally attacked free speech in the past. Ignore my blind loyalty to the Left, and repeating what I hear in the media, it's not agreeableness like OP said.
Chase Wright
Nobody implied or even suggested this. Fuck off to /leftypol/
Noah Sullivan
As an enlightened right wing powerlifter, I can confirm the switch is good for wholesome social gains
I'm perfectly fine with hate speech laws. I just think you're all lying when you say free speech and really mean 'my speech'
Ayden Sanchez
>switch is ok as confirmed by fat basement dwelling neckbeard
Dominic Gomez
Being strong makes you don't need to be submissive.
A weak person will tend to capitulate and avoid conflict. While most arguments are not really prone to physical violence, it can still be intimidating and threatening.
So yes, lifting weights makes you strong. Being strong and physically intimidating means you aren't as threatened by dissent. So you're more comfortable disagreeing.
>I'm perfectly fine with hate speech laws. Then you’re anti-American.
Parker Brooks
No I really mean free speech. Unless it's calls of imminent violence against a group that's actually likely to incite violene- see SCOTUS.
"Hate speech laws" are fucking dangerous and the first steps in censorship. Pretty soon, you have "ideas offensive to the party" getting lumped in there and it's all bullshit from there.
Isaac Evans
>I'm perfectly fine with hate speech laws
Then what exactly is your point? You are a Leftist who is high in agreeableness and needs the Government to censor thinks for him, you are proof of what everyone in this thread has been discussing.
> I just think you're all lying when you say free speech and really mean 'my speech'
You'd know this wasn't the case if you knew anything about the philosophical roots of political ideology, and as are clearly ignorant and have absolutely no basis for this claim it can be dismissed by any intelligent person.
Carter Adams
That’s exactly what they want, and they’re relentless enough to have a go at all facets of private life trying to kill anything good. See the last four to six fucking years of culture policing bullshit.
user, you're already being censored. Laws against hate speech? LOL You stupid faggot. Laws against hate speech is just the LAST step. It's like a frog realizing that the warm water they were sitting in is boiling and something smells delicious.
You think Jow Forums isn't being actively censored by certain parties?
You don't even know why censorship is bad. You're just parroting THEY WONT LET THEM SHOW ME NEKKID PEOPLE, HERE NAUGHTY WORDS, OR SAY NAUGHTY OR JUST STUPID THINGS.
You don't even know that how you think is being steered by media academia and even social networks. Holy shit.
Lincoln Hall
That person is aware of this and is 100% complicit.
