How can this guy compete when he openly admits using roids? (i know everyone else uses too, thats not what I'm implying)

sponsors care because normies believe most elite athletes are natty and get really offended when someone is caught

steroids are more common to football than concussions, concussions are rare if you take care of you and quit before you get old

I knew some personal sponsors for like clothing and whatnot cared but I didn’t think any company sponsoring a show would care about someone admitting to the obvious

how strong and how big would be this guy if he never took steroids

Normies are that dumb

probably very strong
basically all the guys with the ridiculous totals and lifts would probably be extremely strong and athletic even without gear. they would probably be naturally as strong - maybe even stronger - than genetic dead end lifters that go on gear

yeah thats right but gimme numbers to get an idea man

nah concussions are common in all levels of football
you're thinking of CTE

Well, no one cares unless the person is benefiting financially by scamming people , aka a supplement salesman, personal trainer or online fitness person selling a bullshit $50 program. Yeah no one cares (or should care) that the best athletes in the olympics and NBA or college football are using in order to stay competitive, but we should care if YouTube fake natties and roidcel brosplitters with no understanding of progressive overload are spouting bullshit for money

oh yeah my bad i thought you were refering the long term ones

he'd probably hit 2/3/4/5 for 5 reps natty at his current age if he never roided

LMAO that's a good one man

there are natties in /plg/ who don't have anywhere near the same talent level as Larry Wheels pulling 700lbs, and you think he'd only be at 500x5? no fucking way

>t. Larry

>This gilled up on steroids
>not even THAT can make his girl calves grow

You think he cries at night staring at a mirror looking at those twig calves?

>taking roids
>talent
kys

Basically they will have a meeting pre contest saying they will test If you look like your on gear. Basically pull you to the side. It's to scare away the competition the next day however the testing comes from their own budget. About 200$ per person. It very rarely happens especially at novice and intermediate competitions.

beauden barrett is natty

i don't know much about powerlifting i just pulled 2/3/4/5 out of my ass
relax big fella

>steroids are some magic gains-drug where hard work and training principles can be thrown out the window
>YouTube fake natties and roidcel brosplitters with no understanding of progressive overload are spouting bullshit for money
Nigga what. Like yeah be honest but i think you seriously overestimate the power of gear

TFW Dorian yates looked like this 6 months after starting training

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genetic freaks exist

bolt was running 11 seconds flat at 12/13 with barely training at all

paul anderson did 40 KG overhead presses with each hand the first time he touched weights

No doubt bro - you cant win the Olympia without genetic ability and a dickload of hard work, no matter how hard you try or how much gear you take

yeah sure whatever you say buddy

exactly, also there are also guys who dont start very well but their bodies respond uniquely to the training, those are my favorites

examples: asafa powell, he was a 11.5 sprinter at age of 17

the armwrestler travis bagent wasnt strong at all as a teen

I seriously doubt most of the best rugby players are pinning

the kiwis the samoan the south africans and the ausies are the most roided out there

google.com.ar/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/3ud7s6/how_many_rugby_players_use_steroids_its_more_like/

just because they arent 250 lbs ripped with 4.5 40 yard dash doesnt mean they dont roid

its just less evident because its more aerobic oriented sport but they roid

i have amateur rugby friends who takes simulants before the match and others take small doses of roids and they dont get paid for it

if they got paid theyd roid the fuck out, id do the same anyways so im not blaming

I'm pretty sure I remember a video George Leeman did with an old friend of his that he started lifting with when he was a teenager. I can't remember exact numbers but I'm pretty sure both he and his friend claimed that Leeman deadlifted in the ballpark of 400-450lbs his first time in the gym.

Of course Leeman pretty much quit powerlifting and disappeared for the most part but the dude was definitely on the way to set records IMO. The kind of freaks do exist but without steroids who knows how far genetics+training would actually get you. I think most people who go to the gym are extremely mislead by fitness media into thinking that results for naturals with average genetics are going to be far above what is actually possible, or that it's not going to take a long time to get there. Not to say that you shouldn't lift because you aren't a damned genetic freak, but just that people who have celebrity in the fitness industry are either gifted/roiding/have insane work ethic and usually its both of the first two and sometimes all three.

He'd probably be around the level of top tier european IPF lifters.

doubt it

dude's spurtin blood out his pores, I bet his dosages are out of this world high

No I think he would be, though he'd move up at least one weight class.

>His total would only go down ~250lbs if he'd never cashed in his natty card

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........

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I never said he would hold the record for his weight class nor even that he would necessarily be able to medal, just that he would likely be on the same level as the guys that go to the European championships.

He's pretty based for being open about it tbqh

fuck me
Yeah and the effect gear has on them is even multipled, asides from leverages of course

bodybuilders are also notoriously mentally ill liars

These are results from the most recent western europe championships in his weight class. If you actually believe he'd be anywhere near his own total or these totals as a complete natty then you know nothing about roids and probably need to cancel your blacked.com subscription. To say that you can compete at a world level without any PEDs is 100% delusional.

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That's not classic m8.

this

Yep.

If only the general population better understood that virtually 100% of all professional, Olympic, or internationally competitive athletes participating in strength, speed, or endurance, are some form of PEDs. Probably multiple.

The same goes with Hollywood actors, especially superhero roles (Thor, etc.)

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>6 months after starting training and steroids

Fixed it for you.

Yeah, grabbed the wrong pdf.

The totals in his weight class were averaging about 700kg and honestly I sincerely doubt that any full natty has hit a that total that high. We are totally speculating here, but the idea that a natty would be hitting world level roided numbers is ridiculous.

I think they can, I specified European lifters since antidoping is much more zealous in quite a lot of European countries, Scandinavia especially.

>a 12 year old in Africa was getting his 100 m dash timed by someone with a stop watch in fucking Africa of all places

[X] doubt

do you not know where Jamaica is dumbass?

kek

yes it was handtimed probably without reaction time

so bolt at 13 year old FAT sprinting time was probably 11.40 AT HIS BEST

but he was lazy and always was, he even trained poorly compared to his peers, bolt could have gone as fast as 9.39/9.40 if he did more reaction, and strenght training

the only one who was as gifted as bolt was BULLET bob haye

noone ever has come close to the raw speed talent of these both

Imagine the day when a genetically gifted negro will reach his true potential by actually working hard and combining it with a more focused pharma routine...

Like if China imported a bunch of blacks and could mind control them with their sports programs to be like Lu Xiaojun

Puerto rican you mong

unironically the most talented guys are the least hardworkers by nature and viceversa

bolt lacked of the will power and fire ben johnson had for example

no sprinter had the focus motivation or strenght in the track that ben possesed

when you have a talented and focused athlete you get tyson's or jordans examples

ametuer rugby players dont get tested either dumbass

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dayum

Is this dude going to make it past 30?

I think the BB community should've more open and better testing that helps the competitors safety.

The only time I get pissed is fake natties telling people 5 mins a day or using a suplement will get you ripped, when really it is PEDs.

Then why answer if you dont know shit about it faggot

>fake natties telling people 5 mins a day or using a suplement will get you ripped
Now that I think about it, how the FUCK is that not considered fraud?

I mean I know, there are snake oil tier everywhere, especially in the health/fitness industry, but seriously, how come noone sued yet? (Then again I guess homeopathy is still around as well, and no suing there to speak of either..)

for some reason watching these gifs makes me think how fucking stupid of a career lifting things from the ground is

^yep

trusting anything coming out of the mouth of a bodybuilder without tangent proof is retarded

Yes probably, but there's a good chance he'll die in his late 40s or 50s.

Larry Wheels is an extreme genetic outlier with an insane work ethic and commitment to the iron. It is impossible to get as big and as strong as him without steroids and its impossible for 99.9% of the population to get as big and as strong as him even with steroids.

Hed probably still be very big (around 225-230 with abs), he would be pressing in the low 300s, benching in the mid-to-high 400s sqatting in the 600, and deadlifting in the 700s.

500's. He'd be pressing in the 500's if he were natty.

Tom martin is on a lot of shit, and he deadlifted 363kg raw at the gym at a bodyweight of 90-93kg.
Now that he has been on lots of gear for years straight he merely increased his deadlift from 363kg to 425kg
Roids impact body composition more than strength.

That would still be very impressive

Yeah, my bad. He would most likely still be a 500+ bencher. Wheels would have been a modern Reg Park.

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But all nattys can press 300s/bench 500s/squats 600s/ pull 700s.

It just takes time.

I do all that natty 8 yrs lifting 20->28

Idk if it was 16->24 if id get same results

Keep in mind larry is also 280 bw something i dont feel like ever exploring

3/5/7/8 probably.

>But all nattys can press 300s/bench 500s/squats 600s/ pull 700s.

No, only those with good genes can. Especially with the press; very few people can ever press 300 no matter what.

What you guys are forgetting here is that Larry Wheels is 23 fucking years old.

"Mearly" added 62 kg to a 363 deadlift.