>tfw you wash off the days work
>tfw you're sore and tired, but your work was done
>tfw the outdoors was all you had around you
>tfw you feel like you're wasting away at your cuck IT office job with all your coworkers being obese and constantly negative
Is manual labor just more fulfilling? Any of you guys feel the same?
This is my biggest fear
I'm a warehouse supervisor at 24 years old and it's great but I want to get into computer science because I love computers
I don't know if it'll be worth it
Depends on if you consider roofing in the summer/winter with shitskins that don't speak English, only to do it again in a few hours for 5 days straight as "fulfilling"
I guess it felt more fulfilling when I worked in the forestry service mostly by myself and tending to the grounds when there was no one around. Just me and nature.
>warehouse supervisor
Worked at Keurig for a while and can confirm that job made me want to an hero. Couldn't imagine having to manage them.
Try laying bricks or paving for 10 hours in the heat and back to me.
As someone who works in the trades, you don't want it. It's hell on the body and has plenty of days where you'll hate your life and choices that led you there
electrical fag here, sometimes when i'm wiring a new house i pretend i'm doing it for someone i know rather than some contractor who sells it to a retard and it feels a little more fulfilling. i would definitely have no problem building houses for people for free. i think its fucked up that houses are pretty much investment opportunities now and not places to live. i fucking hate capitalism and money and especially greedy kikes. my current plan is to buy a piece of land, build a little shack to live in, and get like 5-10 autists to live with me and just go around building houses for people for free. we would get to the spot where the house is going and set up a camp with canvas tents and shit and some power racks and we would work all day and just sleep right there on the site. we'd have one guy who's good at cooking and makes all our food over a fire in a big pot like brock from pokemon.
10/10 dream, would go on adventures with.
This is a great fuxking idea dude...
World needs more people like you dude
Join a freemason lodge
>houses are pretty much investment opportunities now and not places to live.
yeah this shit sucks, takes alot of the "art" out of construction/craftsmanship. cant tell you how many times ive been working on a house and had to sidestep/shortcut through things because the money wasnt there, takes some of the pride out of it
Take it from me, manual labor is only good if you're getting payed well.
If you're not, you feel like a literal slave
If you're interested in working something physical and exciting that you can work freelance in, I'd recommend the film industry.
Particularly Grip and Electric department or Art Department.
Great Pay and always get to travel, and just demanding enough.
Respect to construction, but just seems a little boring.
Easy high paying office job + physical hobbies is the best combo, I make 3x the average wage in my locale in ~10 hours of freelancing a month from home, and I spend as much time as I can working on my house, yard, etc. Fuck doing physical labor for other people, it's never appreciated.
>tfw you wash off the days work
>tfw some of that shit doesn't wash off
>tfw blowing concrete dust out of your lungs until your nose bleeds
>tfw you're sore and tired, your work is nowhere near done
>tfw you've been working for 30+ days straight
>tfw the hours are long. You're at work before the sun rises and don't leave until it's going dark. You haven't seen the sun in forever.
>tfw you feel like you're wasting away in this shithole job where your coworkers are still obese as fuck, physically and mentally broken, and constantly negative about the outlook of the few years they have left to work before retirement (and susbsequent death), their divorces, drinking/drug problems, upcoming court dates, etc. etc. etc.....
>tfw you and your colleagues build and keep the modern world moving, but the only appreciation or recognition you'll ever get is some rosey glasses wearing sappy faggot who sits in an office for a living daydreaming and romanticizing what you suffer through to make a buck because he's too dense to understand that our work enabled his to be comfortable and that we'd also bury people like him in the nearest ditch for wasting his comfortable opportunities to wax and wane all poetic like about our living like it's some fucking novel for him to write about.
FTFY. Satisfying manual labor is a fucking meme you ungrateful fuck. By it's very nature hardly anyone is going to be enjoying the grand outdoors at the end of the day in a manual labor job, since no one hardly builds fuckall in bumfuck nowhere where there's trees and nature to take in.
Fuck you, you lazy cunt.
I find it hard to believe people are romanticizing manual labor. Unless you're being paid well and don't get injured, it's not great at all.
Go into smoke jumping/firefighting wildfires.
t. faggot lazy dyel kys.
Kitchen porter for busy upper end hotel/restaurant. Most brutally physical job I've ever done. Just above minimum wage, indoors, but all the food I can eat and more on a perpetual basis in combo with the exercise. It's like being paid to workout with free gourmet food. No stress when I come home, it's just done and no worries. Best job I've ever had, just wish the pay were a little better.
I've the crazy idea of planting trees for a season once my body has achieved godmode. Any anons ever do? Worth flying out north for a summer to make some bank sticking twigs in the ground?
I’m in
tfw I did this and it's bretty fun
but the pay is shit, it's rough on the body especially if you want to make gains (unless you're an engine slug) (and even then desu), and good luck holding down a gf let alone a family
You want a medal there, son? Get some self respect and don't put up with people fucking you over. This mental monument to martyrdom you've developed is only making you and others around you miserable. Sort your shit out, or leave the situation. Stop complaining, do something about it.
Not in a pretentious way but that's what motivated be a rancher and raise cattle/goats. It's super fulfilling to sit on my porch and oversee everything I've worked for. Everything I do is for me and all the time I put in is for me. I'm not making some twat rich or dealing with a bunch of dumbasses at work. It's a comfy living really, sometimes I worry I'm missing out on my youth not going to clubs or partying all the time but I think it's kind of overrated anyways. I go to fairs, bars, concerts and carnivals so I don't feel like I'm missing out alot. As for dating I just have a few dating apps, there's alot of little towns scattered around to meet girls and I'm within driving distance to 3 cities anyways the furthest being 3 hours away. It's a real good quite life and I'm proud of the work I do.
do you guys consider running around a lot manual labor? i referee soccer in the fall and man the end of the day on a saturday after running 15 miles is very nice
>You have my sword
>Is manual labor just more fulfilling
Doing repetitive shit isn't fulfilling, but using your brain a little and having a physical result in front of you at the end of the day is.
>engine slug
What did you mean by this?
"Manual"
>Running
Better learn some definitions here
being paid less than $15/hr for any manual labor is serf shit
Anyone else get an autistic sense of satisfaction when you wash your hands after work and see all the dirty water, or is it just me?
user, manual labor also requires thinking.
Building something with your hands or repairing something takes thought and ingenuity.
What in gods name happened to us. When did we start to see doing something with our hands and seeing a result that was built from thinking and planning and effort as something that fools do.
engine crews
(nothing against htf 412 in particular, just poasting for illustration)
are there manual labor jobs paying less than that where u live? $15/hr is like minimum wage mcdonalds shit around here. most actual manual labor jobs are $20/hr and 1.5 overtime.
Sounds comfy as hell user. I grew up on a farm and miss it.
Plumber or electrician only. Through unions only. Maybe HVAC and welding which I'll explain in a moment. Plumbers and electricians actually get paid good money for what they do and unions will actually give you a proper education and work hours. All other trade jobs will fuck you and treat you slightly better than a slave. There is a reason you see so many of tradesmen as fat Bubbas. They work 10-13 hours a day, drive 30 minutes home from the office or job site, crack open a cold one, sleep, and get up at 5:00am to get to the site at 6:00am and do it all over again. NTM a good chunk of them work 6 days a week as well. HVAC and welding are exceptions in the sense that maybe 25% of the companies you work for actually have reasonable hours. Trades are the biggest fucking meme out there. Hope you enjoy a 35-50k salary the rest of your life working 80 hours a week in your tiny house
I've worked manual labor for the past five years. I wish I had a nice heated office to work at.
Fuck the outdoors.
>user, manual labor also requires thinking.
I know, that's what I just said. But you can hire retards to do the repetitive shit.
>acting like I've never worked physical labor before
Shut the fuck up you edgy faggot. Your job is shit because you got yourself there. Fix it or stop acting high and mighty.
>window cleaner
>work 6 days a week
>boring work
>cold as fuck
>dying from second hand smoke from faggots who smoke in the truck even when i tell them not to
>chink manager who's a whiny faggot
>only outdoors is the backyards of people way richer than me who didn't become window cleaners
is correct. fuck all of you faggots fantasizing about blue collar work, i just got a cushy office job and i'm not gonna regret a single fucking thing
>t. serfs trying to escape serfdom only to realize all trades are like this
How much do you make. I was working at the post office working 60+ hours every week. Good money, no time to lift or do anything. Just sleep work 6 days a week and sometimes 7. For over a year. I quit after I had a panic attack and wanted to off myself, shit came by fast and brutal.
Also every Boomer that I worked with had physical problems, that shit rapes your body. Guy almost died from a clot that traveled to his head, he probably wished he had.
>tfw you wash off the days work
it's sweat, nothing special
>tfw you're sore and tired, but your work was done
woo
>tfw the outdoors was all you had around you
the outdoors suck, sometimes
t. park monitor in florida
>All these faggots with no skills complaining about unskilled labour being shit
Yeah it's shit, ya dingus. Get some skills, and you won't be a replaceable piece of shit. Get some REAL money, because when you have REAL skills, the person paying the bills can't just go somewhere cheaper.
shit man let’s hear some more details, what kind of livestock/crops do you deal with?
>tfw family owns a farm in Iowa that we lease out to a company that grows beans/corn
my grandma always tells us we could move out there and farm it if we wanted to
>salary
I sure hope you fags don't do this. I could not imagine how shit it must feel to get woken up in the middle of the night for some menial shit and not get paid ANYTHING for your trouble.
Some do in the sense that they are on call. I suppose I should mention that 35-50k is what most trade-fags look at regardless if they are paid hourly or purely on salary. Still, being woken up in the middle of the night hardly makes a difference in the paycheck
Sounds dank as fuck tbqh too bad it won't happen
Blue collar or white collar it all sucks because collars are for attaching leashes to.
The real top tier is starting your own business and having people work for you.
Making it is when the money you earn is not directly correlated to the amount of hours you work.
I make over 200k per year, no college education and started in a trade.
Still cut my own grass and do my own landscaping.
Volunteer my time to help at the church or do jobs for elderly people in the church, best of both worlds.
what sort of business do you run my man
It really depends m8. I've worked a lot of different manual labor jobs. My personal rankings:
An hero tier
>roofing
>delivering newspapers
>carpeting
Decent tier
>plumbing
>car mechanic
Based and redpilled tier
>welding
>bicycle mechanic in a small college town
My worst experience was spending nights ripping moldy carpets out of a restaurant. The most /comfy/ job was fixing bikes for college qt's
who /treeplanting/ here?
>Challenging work
>outdoors
>paid piece-rate so the harder you work the more you get paid
>can make $400 a day if you're good at it
>live in a bush camp with a dozen other hippies
>blackflies and mosquitos in the summer so you can get some extra protein in while you're working
How the fuck does somebody get into forestry please tell me
>Blue collar or white collar it all sucks because collars are for attaching leashes to.
It's so true it hurts
see
Treeplanting is the best introduction to the bush you can get, do a season and learn about what kind of jobs forestry has to offer
I raise beef cattle and boer goats. The cows are a mix of herford and Angus and some are bramah cows. The Angus/herford mix are real noble and have good marbling. The bramahs have real good size but they tend to be more wild. Goats are just an easy thing that don't take much effort. I have 25 cows(mix of herford/angus) and 2 bulls (1 bramah/Angus mix and one herford/charole mix). I usually sell about 8-10 calfs at a time at auction or online ads. I have about 30 female goats and 7 billys. They do their own thing and I have them fenced in an acre with a smaller section where they sleep or get out of the rain that I put a deer feeder at so they return and it's easy to catch the little ones in a smaller area. Baby goats go for 85 a pop and each calf usually gets me between 5 and 6 hundred.
Isn't this retarded crazy hard though? Like I've worked manual and I had a cousin who said you had to plant three trees a minute to make minimum in BC at least
HVAC is the best trade you could get into but only if your a service technician. If your an installer you will hate your life. Being a service tech you are being paid to think more than your actual labor because replacing parts on an hvac system is not hard. I just got offered a job as a Service tech for 25 bucks an hour (plus commission) until my number gets called in the union. Then I can top out at 45 an hour. Anybody reading this thread thinking about going into a trade do fucking HVAC hands down.
i worked as an hvac installer and i agree. the techs had it fucking made and guys my age were making twice as much as me and getting paid to go on training vacations and shit. meanwhile i'm putting together metal ductwork in the middle of winter with no heater or gloves or inside a 120 degree attic in the middle of summer. worst job i ever had
I import, sell and service machinery
It's quite challenging I heard.
One friend did it and he noted he had a hard time sleeping at night because his hand and arm would tense up painfully. It's apparently quite common among tree planters, they called 'spade arm' or something because of constantly using their spade as they plant trees.
Good luck finding a place that will hire you for this unless you have 3-5 years of prior experience.
>not getting your 3-5 years as an installer and then upgrading to service
You faggots just want the good jobs handed to you on a silver platter, don't you? Get your experience instead of going to college and 4 years later you will be earning the same as a college grad, but with 50k in savings instead of 50k in debt
No, it's that you could make more, working a better schedule, and living a comfier lifestyle as an IT nigger with far greater potential.
>Still, being woken up in the middle of the night hardly makes a difference in the paycheck
What the actual fuck kind of contracts are you guys cucked with? I'm on call 1 week in 5, usually get about 10-15 hours overtime (charged, not actual work. 2hour minimum callout) and between the actual overtime hours and the standby allowance it takes my wages from 75k/y to like 85-90
lol, this. my boss always tells me I should wear my company shirt and I always tell him "you will fire me before I put on a collar" and then we have a little chuckle. him because he thinks im kidding, and me because I know I will beat him to retirement. he is 66 and I am 28.
>what is an apprenticeship
dingdingding, retard alert
It's interesting to see how different tradesmen have in their contracts.
One has an excellent contract, yet another has a fucked contract.
Is it simply due to a difference in years of experience, shit employer, crappy employee who does crap work, trade specialty differences?
There's too little info to figure if one guy is just too stupid to get a better job/contract or not experienced yet to get better work conditions or any one factor to explain
Everyone I know who did manual labor either ended up with a bunch of health problems or alcoholics. I'm currently stuck in manual labor and it's dumb and boring and makes me suicidal and I already have lower back and knee issues.
I can completely relate. I've been working as a laborer or landscaper every summer between school. I spent the past summer installing solar panels which was a blast. But none of these gave me real experience to help me get a career in my field of study so I just started a normie office job. Everything is so different I'm having a super hard time adjusting.
Just arrived from a day of cutting lumber up the snow laden mountains brah. They tell me I can cut a tree down with an axe as fast as they can with the chainsaw. Can confirm it is fulfilling work
Didn't realize how much stress I was dealing with till after I quit. Having money is great but not having time to yourself is going to make your life miserable physically and mentally.
based and commiepilled.
1 to 2 years of handy man work and a highschool diploma will get you in the door as a maintenance tech which will get you the experience to become a tech. Stop being a faggot. Also you can go down to your local union and see if you can test in for an apprenticeship program. They start you at 18 bucks an hour with a 2 dollar raise every 6 months.
yeah user. I do not envy installers at all but they are at times more in demand than service techs.
A tree every 15 seconds adds up to about 2000 trees, and at 10 cents a tree thats $200 at the end of the day. It sounds hard but after a season you can hit 2k even on a bad day. Our camp supervisor showed us how to plant a tree in 15 seconds, and it looked like he was moving in slow motion, and about 3/15 of those seconds were spent picking his nose and staring at butterflies. If you work hard you will make good money. If you are lazy you wont.
Listen to the vets, they'll give you good tips. Claw hand can be avoided by holding the shovel with a loose grip.
It is challenging job but thats part of the appeal for me at least. The satisfaction you get at the end of a day is incomparable. You go through this struggle with other like minded people, its a bonding experience. They motivate you and in turn you work harder, make more money, and accomplish things you thought were impossible.
This is actually realistic and totally doable. Besides the "for free" part. If I get my licenses done next year and start taking my own jobs, we can do a comfy ass project in the Santa Cruz area for a few weeks. The pay would be kind of shitty ($15/hr) but the work is easy and everyone would be getting free rent.
>rent a house for 4-5 guys
>buy food in bulk to save money
>24 hour fitness in town
>5 minute drive to the beach
>can time the project to coincide with spring break if we want
I used to live this life and miss it dearly. My 3 friends and I used to work there and it was /comfy/ af.
what licenses user?
>tfw spent the work day putting up a scoreboard at a college volleyball court while classes were going
It was an IRL high test thread, brehs
based
I had what most considered a dream office job as a stock broker. Made great money and had a great team but it was the most depressing chapter of my life. Started working for the railroad: lost 30 lbs, blood pressure dropped 20 points to where it was when I was in high school, sleep better, more energy. It contradicts what most would consider a move up but I dont regret it a bit.
>Is manual labor just more fulfilling?
Yes.
But the key is you have to work for yourself. The reason unions exist is because most people are awful at bargaining. I'm a self employed carpenter. I set my own hours. I work as much as I want. I pick my jobs and bring on help if needed. I worked production framing and busted ass for years (Went from $100 a week when I was 16 to $35/hour as a foreman at 25. Now I make way more, but I'll tell you there's not much I've found more satisfying than standing on top of a roof after cutting, sheathing, and shingling it by yourself.
Possibly a skill-set thing. I'm technically 'just an electrician' at the moment, but we subcontract to the major telecommunications companies in our country and do some pretty specialized high-current DC work (phones run on -54VDC, not mains voltage) and a lot of the stuff that we do, smaller companies just can't handle because of insurance and health and safety overheads and shit, I would imagine. It's not uncommon for us to send a couple of dudes 4 hours out and (4 hours back) into the sticks for a job that only takes half an hour, and only affects a few rural customers. I can also apply to re-register as an electrical inspector whenever I want, as I have done the coursework and exam, practical assessments etc. So I guess I'm pretty valuable to the company.
Welding licenses. Those beach towns always have rusted infrastructure that needs repair.
Still craftsmanship. I'd enjoy the view, be outside and enjoying the opportunity to learn new languages to do a perfect job as a supervisor with those shitskins underpaid.
Yes I'd do that.
Livin' the dream.
I worked a """"prestigious office job"""" for a few years and hated it.
>same cubicle every day
>ugly (and married) female boss always hitting on me, can't say shit because muh male privilege
>can't say anything remotely right wing, let alone reveal my Jow Forums power level
>back and knees hurt from sitting 8 hours, carpal tunnel at age 24
>work is not fulfilling, writing government documents that no one caresponse about
>"I fucking love science" tier job title that will impress redditors and no one else
Glad I bailed desu. I make less money but I sometimes have trouble going to sleep at night because I'm looking forward to work the next day so much.
im with you brah.
>so much more capable than avg numan
>confidence from not feeling like anyone can beat the shit out you
>cultivate drive from pushing past point of comfort
>solve practical problems on the go, satisfies man's need for autonomy and carries over to maintaining your property
>overcoming mild danger constantly gives new outlook on life
>hands like vices. forearms are second biceps
>BIG MEATY CLAWS
>finally realize your body is so much more capable than it lets on. not afraid to beat the shit out of it because you know it will adapt
>all guys. if someone is being rude or lazy just snap at them and tell them to do their fucking job. no drama
feels fucking good. now office work:
>decisions deligated. no satisfaction
>stare at screen. brain fried from living in virtual space
>show up to work like mom dressed you for church
>sitting all day. bad for posture and general health. do nothing and still feel tired and shitty
>work with empowered womyn
why arent you /physical/, anons?
you didnt wear a mask and are reaping the consequences. mask doesnt seem so oppressive now, does it, retard? always a sadboy on the jobsite. a fucking loser who keeps coming up with excuses his life is shit.
About to study nautic to become a shipscaptain
>A-am I doing right Boys?
haha, this. wear your ppe, losers
>>tfw blowing concrete dust out of your lungs until your nose bleeds
You gonna die boyo
Is it possible to be a trucker and be able to go to the gym 6 days a week?
Tell me more about how you got into this? I knew someone who did some electrics and handy man shit for the bbc in the late 80s and ended up on prob design.
Again, enjoy that slave labor for dick all pay
Semi-decent post that realizes the unions are literally the only decent place to learn a trade. The original point of my post.
Again, trade niggers are the first to get ass-blasted the second you suggest the majority of them will never hit this big dick swinger money
everyone dies
>concreting
>not seeing the sun
Good one dipshit
Some sooner than others
>tfw working retail in a superstore
>unload pallets all the time full of heavy ass lamps and shit
>tfw have to run all the time or my boss will complain about me being too slow to unload
>it turns into cardio