/OWG/ - Olympic Weightlifting General

/owg/ rekindled #3 Caladan is our only hope edition.

>If you are new to weightlifting please read these first and check the other sources they link to before asking questions:
pastebin.com/1HgVcGam
pastebin.com/wCXeXfkk
chinfl.blogspotco.uk/2013/07/how-into-weightlifting.html
reddit.com/r/weightlifting/wiki/faq
iwf.net/doc/technical.pdf
yashathoughts.com/

>The information that you are looking for is probably in the above links.
That includes routines, shoes, information on the lifts, etc. Check out the pastebins for literature or the reddit faq for general information.

Included in this youtube playlist are videos related to weightlifting which you may find useful or insightful:
youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists


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how many months of SS before i can start doing oly lifts?

Is this satire

Considering the technique required for weightlifting will most likely reset you to dong bar only work, the base strength wont really make much of a difference at first.

Any tips for increasing speed when dropping under the bar during the snatch, I feel like my second pull is fine but my drop speed is way to slow and bouncy. Is there anything I can do to increase my catch speed?

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holy shit this thread is dying so quickly, bump to stay alive.

sauce on this wheyfu?

Rita Benavidez

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Just do it until you stall, and you can always do some practice reps of the oly lifts with the bar, or bar+10 lbs bumper plates, at the end of the SS workout. If you're JUST starting, give a couple of weeks to let deadlifts get you used to pulling anything off the floor.

99% chance that the cavalcade of retards following this post, telling you that deadlifts are bad, or that you have to practice technique with a broomstick on a mountain top for seven and seventy-seven days before "graduating" to a barbell, have never snatched LMAO100kg and never, ever will.

yeah i'm still working out kinks in my form on all my lifts

If you decide to start weightlifting make sure you get a coach as early as possible. It's much harder to un-learn bad habbits down the line.

welp rip this thread.

My thumb constantly hurts from when I used hook grip on deadlifts a while back after taking a break from using the grip, how can I rehab it so it doesnt hurt 2/7?

get some tape or just use hookgrip on everything you ever grip to get used to it.

real owg posters wank with hookgrip

i wish i could just bulk forever, lifting on a cut feels so awful lads. no power, zero motivation, today fucking sucked ass

i should ask /fraud/ if theres something i can do about this

remember if youre taking something like test or hgh to pin really early in the morning to mask it to avoid failing drug tests

ill keep that in mind. ive been thinking about letting science turn me into klokov for a while but i dunno whats really good for performance. ive been told that test kills your tendons and id like to avoid turning into a glass cannon of sorts

currently feeling it bro
at least I've lost 20 pounds

Is it possible to learn olympic weightlifting only from videos and online sources and not suck ass?

depends on what you mean by "not suck ass."
Personally I think you can get pretty proficient as long as you film yourself whenever you lift and pay attention to what you're doing, especially if you post videos online somewhere to get critiqued

sure, but it will take a lot of time and dedication. the reason people recommend getting a coach asap is because you will learn much much faster.

practice getting under from the top of the second pull with an empty bar

and spread your feet at the bottom

Based

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Why the fuck do American have shit tech ? This is a joke right ?

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Yes, sad to say that Jow Forums doesn't give a shit about oly anymore

hgh, dianabol, look for what the top guys are getting caught with.

Got ~10 weeks to next competition
Am I an idiot if I run russian squat program for 6 weeks with mainly technique work wl, and then start ramping the weights up in the classics for the 4 remaining weeks?

Holy shit this thread is back? What's it been? Like 7 months?

Do you guys roid? Srs question pls

Yeah, it's not that hard to figure out to the extent you at least won't be an active danger to yourself and others. At least if you're not a complete brainlet.

Good enough tech to break youth world records though.

no

describe in detail what you think is wrong with his technique you non lifting retarded faggot

t. americans with shit tech

Clean is fine but the jerk is disgusting
Front foot lands first, jumps back and hips arent under the barbell so he has to run forward to catch it

4 weeks seems long enough for a peaking phase.

We had a couple every now and then. Some of them even lasted nearly a week.

Durkz does.

Tbh its more like 3 weeks and the last one being light one before competition

Do you use your arms to pull under? Probably not if this is your issue

>If you decide to start weightlifting make sure you get a coach as early as possible. It's much harder to un-learn bad habbits down the line.
What if your a poorfag and don't like people?
If I watch a few youtube vid's from different people I can learn all the bad habits.
I love research so no problemo right?

Ayyy post them owl gifs senpai

are you refeeding? I've read some good stuff about optimal cutting involving a refeed twice a week so you replenish, but phoneposting rn and can't search it. This also maintains performance to a much higher standard.

IIRC it's like 5 days ~500cal deficit, 2 days 200cal surplus, or something. Lyle McDonald talks about it a lot

I don't like it either but it's a lot better than CJs
Maurus is actually an elite lifter, despite the inefficiency. He could also stand to gain weight

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I don't actually have that many wl webms

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It's not about the speed under the bar that makes you go down faster, it's the pull. The more you pull, the faster you will get under it

Yes problemo

Those digits don't lie

>lack of extension
>sucks at meeting the bar
>jerks with external rotation

That’s basic shit, any nb could seee

This too

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MOGGUSHKOV MOGGING TWINKS
He's the first captain of Lord Kyriakos

HOW THE FUCK DO I CATCH THE BAR ON A CLEAN???
i can't seem to get my elbows up when i have to catch it. my elbows stay down like im about to OHP.
i really like the exercise, but can't seem to get that part right

is it a problem on fs too? if so, more mobility needed. If not, practice the turnover, e.g. lots of high hang work

I think it might not actually be a huge issue if your back is tight and rack position stable. I see some people who can comfortably clean like this

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thing is i don't do lots of oly lifting. im just testing the waters.
if i fs i don't use that form; i use the one where i cross my arms. i think i need more mobility.
so how do i increase wrist mobility and what does high hang work entail? im new to oly lifting

err this being the case I'd say first focus on trying to front squat properly with clean grip

anyway it's late, night

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Move your elbows AROUND the bar

breathing life to dead thred

LIFT

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Technically speaking, it's no lift since the butt is not allowed to touch the floor, but judges were total bros

t. non lifting faggots

>Everything about that squat

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ATG just uploaded an extremely erotic video

>everything about this post

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It's over for me. I have been lifting for years and since the very beginning I have been riddled with knee and shoulder pain. I got my squat to 3pl8 1RM before it just regressed. Today I barely squatted 3x5x70 and my knee is in so much pain. At first I was diagnosed with patellar tendinitis but I went to MRI a couple of months ago and apparently my tendon is fine. What gives?

My shoulder is in a lot of pain, too. i can't do hammer curls, pull ups, chin ups, face pulls or any kind of rows pain free anymore. I just want to fucking end my life.

you probably have torn ligaments or some shit. RIP

Wrist mobility is not the reason you can't bring your elbows forward enough for a decent front rack. Shoulder mobility is the problem, likely specifically your lats and/or triceps are too tight.

The simplest and most direct way to stretch them for the purposes of a front rack are to load up a good weight on the bar in a rack, put your hands on it like you're going to get into a front rack for a front squat (wide enough so that they clear your shoulders), dip down under the bar, and squat up into the front rack as far as you can without bouncing back downwards and out of it. Eventually, you'll get to the point where you can actually reach the bar with your shoulders.

Get a physiotherapist. Most of this shit is from lifting with bad technique or muscle imbalances.

>letting tendinitis even slow you down
>making it
choose 1

>everything about that macro

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Seconded. Tight lats and tris are the reason you can't reach a front rack. Actual wrist mobility is only an issue for like 3% of the population. If your wrists can go 90degrees to the forearm in both directions, you aren't part of the 3%.

>tripfaggot being a faggot
imagine my shock!

and there goes no nut november

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America sucks at WL deal with it

speaking from personal experience it's quite likely just muscle tightness pulling the patella out of place, I get that a lot too. It's gotten a lot better since I've changed my squat to be knees out rather than knees forward. The MRI probably would have been analysed for any structural faults and finding none is a good thing, not a bad thing.

I'd see someone about the shoulder.

I feel like such a dumbass for trying to overhead squat all this time (up until a week ago) with externally rotated shoulders. I wish i would have just gotten a coach instead of listening to crossfit fucks on youtube. Oh well, atleast i am finally making progress and starting to figure the snatch out.

Also, one of you mentioned doing cossack squats as part of your warm-up. Thank you, that helped me a ton too! I thought i had pretty great hip mobility and control before but im already seeing noticable improvement.

stop spreading this bullshit
1) wl is first and foremost a strength sport
2) you had better be able to do an ordinary backsquat and deadlift before attempting the classics

I spoke with a world record holding powerlifter about weightlifting in the US, and he was firmly of the opinion that technique was not the issue, and that instead other countries simply have stronger athletes. Can anyone back this up or refute it with numbers for auxiliary lifts?

sounds like something a powerlifter would say

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That was me, glad to know.
A lot of crossfitters use external rotation overhead either because they think it works or they mistook external for internal as it is confusing to know which is which overhead. Internal is objectively correct tho

Holy shit, I came back after 2 days and the threads still up?

There's hope yet boys. Weightlifting will never die

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>he was firmly of the opinion that technique was not the issue, and that instead other countries simply have stronger athletes
>stronger athletes
>stronger *drugs*
fixed it

It's also the fact that weightlifting in other European countries is government funded and its actually a form of escape for a lot of the population. Some of them are so poor that getting into weightlifting is actually an escape. Much like getting a scholarship in the US if you're in a lower social bracket.

So they have a bigger pool of athletes willing to give everything to weightlifting. Whereas in the US for example weightlifting is just a hobby for most people.

Maybe I'M confused then. Which one results in the "inside" of your elbow pointing upwards when overhead?

The US does fine at other sports that are glorified hobbies (fencing comes to mind, USA won three medals across six events at the last summer Olympics). It's a country of nearly 330 million people. With a population like that, there's going to be a top level natural talent for damn near everything.

The biggest difference is that OUR busybody government is actively policing steron usage, while the busybody governments of countries that are actually worth half a shit are pushing steron usage, and aiding in dodging tests and stuff.

yeah Icarus was a pretty cool film that highlighted a lot of the shit that abadjiev had a hand in.

External rotation overhead is elbows pointing side/forward
Internal rotation overhead is elbows pointing side/behind

Think of pointing index side of finger forward and pinky back

huh?

Favorit ab exercise/work? Situps, leg raises and planks are becoming boring desu.

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Russian twists
Jerk dips

C&J PR for 100kg today.

nice work man. RPE?

Other way around

Imagine rotating each arm in its own direction

Right elbow rotates to the right = external rotation
Right elbow rotates to the left = internal rotation.

It switches overhead, his elbows point out and back

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Clean was a 9 but the jerk was a 10 because I had to chase it far forward. Almost quit since I had to chase an earlier c&j 95kg too but my coach said I could probably do 100 since the clean wasn’t a grinder.

Fuark nice work user. Keep grinding away.

Props on having a coach as well.

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Clarence's girlfriend is thicc

links?

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Do you think he can do better?

Tightness where? Can you suggest any stretches?
I had the shoulder checked as well. Got diagnosed with internal impingement, slight subscapularis tendinosis and a little infraspinatus damage. I can't afford a physio right now, but next year.

If you have the diagnosis you should be able to find some exercises on the net

As for tightness look at working through the movement slowly - very high rep squats and good morning with just the bar followed by stretching

Going by Clarence’s looks, yeah. But then again he’s seems like the shy kind of guy that doesn’t do too well with women.