So is this shit bad for you or what?

Carl sagan? Joe Rogan

Plenty of olympic athletes smoke it to relieve pain during recovery. You should definitely try a pure cbd strain or making a blend with mostly cbd and a little cbd, since cbd is an antipsychotic you get all the benefits of anxiety relief, body relation and munchies without any strong mental effects (paranoia, hallucinations, feeling groggy the next morning when you smoke late at night etc).

>4 hours a day

meant to say 6.

>smoking pot
might as well be taking estrogen pills, faggot

I've been a daily weed smoker for about 7 years now.

Only smoke after work tho. It hasn't hurt my career or anything - currently a derivatives broker.

>Probably drinks beer
>(((Beer)))
>Made with hops which is worse for you T than s*y

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That being said it is the herbal jew, keeps people docile, same with alcohol tho

The only weedfags that aren't retards are the ones who don't tell you that they smoke weed unless you've been friends with them for a while. You can't tell they smoke unless they tell you.

It's the same as literal faggots. If they essentialy advertise they take dick up their ass with their looks and behavior, then they are shit-tier normie scum.

I have uncontrollable munchies and have ruined weeks of dieting by getting high one day and eating everything in site. I just started another cut and I'm putting down mary jane for good.

>tfw been sober less than 2 weeks total out of the past 2 years

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You can have a healthy marijuana habit that compliments a balanced and productive lifestyle.

You can also smoke yourself retarded and live in a constant state of brain fog.

It's on you to handle your shit.

If you are young it can irreversibly change your brain for the worse (think slightly lower iq), if you are ~25 it's not going to be a lasting change but could affect you for a few weeks after heavy use. If you can avoid using it you should. Alcohol is also bad for a developing mind, if you are young please don't limit your future self with drugs now.

I talk about smoking weed as little as possible cause I hate that dude weed vibe that people get when it comes up, and stoners can only ever talk about a. How much they smoke b. Times they got really high

So fucking sick of you degenerates spreading your druggie ideas here. NEVER trust an addict and the sick addict thoughts that come out of their mouths. They do not think. They only scheme to feed their addiction no matter what.

Average stoner argument:
>muh muh plant just a plant it's a plant muh plant just a plant it's a plant plant a plant muh plant just a plant it's a plant muh plant just a plant it's a plant plant a plant a plant muh plant just a plant it's a plant a plant muh plant just a plant it's a plant a plant muh plant just a plant it's a plant

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As with nearly anything, it's fine in moderation.

getting super baked is for halfwit teenagers. The right way to do weed is just smoke enough for a shallow buzz, and enjoy.

>>probably

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ive noticed that if you have strong mind before doing weed (eg smartish) weed doesn't really affect your mental state. plus ita good for the eating.

I've switched to smoking a bowl over drinking a few beers after work. I'm more mellow after smoking, and I don't have to worry about carbs or calories.

Actually, no bloating no calories no vomiting no blackouts no hangovers.

I smoke one post gym session, but yeah its legal here. Helps me chill out after pulling that 1.3 dmaa workout

I like my weed, but blocks GnRH secretion from the hypothalamus, which eventually leads to lowered LH and FSH production and therefore also lowers testosterone production. THC also inhibit s several testicular enzymes needed in testosterone production. Smoking weed = low T
Only do it you’re on roids

I've noticed the same, i dont really feel any different from when i wasnt smoking weed, one of my friends however who wasnt very bright before he started smoking has become dumb as a brick and hes always complaining that weed makes him stupid and he cant remember anything anymore

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>anxiety,panic attacks
>can't measure how much is too much
>get unpredictable highs smoking erryday
You must have of had a history of anxiety, shit genetics or just ill minded to get a disorder and panic attacks, or you were never happy or confident with yourself while you were smoking weed. If you smoke weed fairly regularly you build a tolerance and your trips will be the same and more controlled unless you have a fragile mind lol. You can definitely measure how much weed is too much if you pay attention to your body and mind while you're high and the day after if you're frequent.
This, don't blame the weed. Worst side effect is probably mild grogginess if you've had too much.

>being this mad over a plant

Weed isn't chemically addicting. The correct word is dependency. You can be dependent on weed just like someone might be dependent on sugar, video games, shopping, etc. any pleasure inducing behavior, but weed does NOT cause chemical addiction or withdrawals in the same way nicotine, alcohol, and even caffeine do.

That being said, weed is not harmless and it does come with a bunch of immediate short term side effects and some long term ones if you smoke for a long time. It's also smart to not smoke if you have schizophrenia in the family or are already experiencing paranoia or hallucinations.

I smoke because it relieves my anxiety, it helps me sleep, and it's a much less harmful recreational substance than alcohol (also cheaper). I'm a little slower than I was before I started, but if I take 3 weeks or so off I feel exactly like before. I've always had shit memory and haven't noticed it getting any worse. Pros and cons, but definitely should be legal.

Need a stoner gymbuddy in Victoria, Straya

29 / male

Strictly no gay stuff, friends only

My short term memory is fucked becouse of weed

Weed is considered a PED because it's a potent painkilled meaning you can lift more under the influence. Fun fact

If you're trying to be healthy and Jow Forums, avoid all drugs as possible. Don't listen to self-indulgent pricks, that advocate towards using drugs. They are the same as fat acceptance movement people really.

Level of use dictates how bad it is. Daily heavy use is less harmful than daily heavy use of alcohol, but daily light use is more harmful than daily light use of alcohol. Furthermore daily heavy use of cannabis is, of course, still harmful, but mostly on your mind, whereas alcohol damages your brain and liver. Occasional heavy use is much less harmful than occasional heavy use of alcohol. Cannabis has some redeeming qualities, and you can minimize harm by taking it in ways other than smoking it. Alcohol has very little in the way of redeeming qualities, and it doesn’t have a lot of other options for consumption.
Using either one occasionally won’t be extremely harmful, using either one daily is not great for you, though cannabis does have some legitimate medicinal applications, for example vaporizing oil to help you sleep if you have been diagnosed with real insomnia, or helping people undergoing chemotherapy keep their appetite up and pain down. Alcohol falls short there.

If you treat it like alcohol and smoke occasionally as recreation, then it's fine

but if you smoke every single day and pretend it doesn't affect your brain and judgement + increase risk of psychosis and anxiety, you're delusional.

I know so many losers who blaze every day and live in perpetual brain fog. It's like alcoholism, only unstable / fundamentally unhappy people are drawn to use psychoactive supstances daily

fun fact: Mike Tyson admitted to several times being high before going into a fight

Just make sure you don't turn into one of those smoke all day every day types because it will most likely destroy any motivation and ambition you have. I keep it to once every 1 to 2 months with some exceptions here and there. I've also had a period of 3 months or so where I smoked almost daily and it just killed any drive I had and made my brain really foggy

Joe rogan is a scam artist.

>GMO bad
t.npc
Also fish bladder is good for gains

>not as bad as alcohol
First off, this is debatable since we don't know the statistics. Second, almost every health problem associated with tobacco is also associated with weed, along with some that aren't (intoxication, brain damage, acute heart problems). Per cigarette, weed is definitely worse for you than tobacco, but to this day I haven't even heard of anyone who smokes the equivalent of a pack of joints every day. Do it in moderation and you're fine, though as a weightlifter it's pretty far down the list of drugs I'd consider safe considering how bad it is for your heart. I'd put alcohol, tobacco, and most prescription drugs ahead of it in terms of safety.
"Weed is safe" is a fucking meme and completely wrong. It's condemned by multiple health organizations.

It makes me more invested in pleasure than work and it also affects my mental clarity. When I'm not using I feel way smarter and tend to make better decisions. That's just me though. It's insidious, it'll creep up on you while everyone says it's fine to use and harmless and then the next thing you know you jerked off instead of finished a project.

Why do you think that, friend?

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I've had periods of consuming large amounts of alcohol, weed, acid, mdma, 2c-b and ketamine, and at this point I'd say that everything is fine as long as it's in moderation. I don't do any substances anymore(apart from drinking once or twice a month, smoking once every couple of months) because all substances have after effects that impact my life and I'm too busy to be hung over, anxious, or having an mdma comedown. Good luck OP

Also, lung cancer, brain damage, and liver failure are serious issues.

Haven´t smoked weed in two months, gonna get a little next weekend though. Some say it helps them with eating, I actually only smoke after I ate because for some reason all I do when I´m high is watch how I met your mother

>only unstable / fundamentally unhappy people
>Jow Forums
ruh roh

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Had the same experience
Started smoking weed regularly along with most of my friends in school. I always knew it messed with me more, since it always amplified my anxiety, but i just kept smoking because everybody did it and i still kinda enjoyed it.
Kept smoking weed almost everyday for years and slowly fucked up my entire psyche. Developed horrible social anxiety that i am still working on and definitely lost some brain power. Also had a few panic attacks.
Finally realized i had to stop about a year ago and am starting feel like my old self again.
Most of the people i know that never stopped aren't really going anywhere in life and those who did are the complete opposite.

In my opinion weed is more dangerous than alcohol. Yes it can't kill you, but because it seems so safe and the dangers only slowly creep up on you over years it's hard to moderate it when you try it as a teenager.

I want your guys' take on this.
>got pulled over w a gram
>take a plea deal that includes monthly testing to get ir stricken off my record
>dumbfuck friend smokes 7 blunts per day
>it's been 7 months since the plea deal started
>he gets in MY car and throw a child like tantrum when I don't let him smoke
>calls me names the entire drive
>literally can't wrap his mind around why I don't want him smoking in my car

Cut this dude off right?

I smoke weed on a semi-regular basis. I have graduated, have a decent job, and have had some pretty good gains over the past 1.5 years.

If you're a lazy loser before smoking weed, you'll be a lazy loser after smoking weed.

If you're a regular type dude or an over-achiever before smoking weed, you'll be a regular type dude or an over-achiever after smoking weed.

Are there negative effects? Possibly. The smoking part certainly isn't healthy.

Are there positive effects? From my experience: Yes. Altered states of mind can open you up to new perspectives, which is valuable, and it can be a great relaxant, with even some anti-nausea and pain relief properties.

That being said, I like best as a social lubricant, akin to alcohol but less depressing.

Stop driving him around for a while. If he bitches about that, yea might be time to jettison the dead weight.

I've smoked daily for probably the last 6 years out of 7 that I have been in contact with the drug. Doesn't seem to have any negative effects on things too much and I don't see it hindering my progress in any way since I hold 2 jobs and go to school also. Weed helps me cope with the constant extistensial dread that follows in my footsteps.
I haven't noticed any fuckups in my short term memory or brain power in general. Only when I'm high does my memory have all kinds of hiccups all the time, but when I'm sober I don't have any of that.
I only smoke in the evenings and never before or during I have stuff to do and the majority of time I smoke alone.
I quit tobacco and alcohol almost completely thanks to weed, but it at the same time isolated me from some spesific social circles who don't view weed positively.
Sure I've had the occasional panic attack and such things a couple of times, but nothing in the category that would actually get me worried for my sanity.
Keep on blazing if you can handle it, but if you feel like you are going nowhere in life or are stuck, take at least a 3 month break or quit completely. I wasn't planning on smoking for the rest of my life, but as of now I don't see a reason to stop.

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Is vaping THC a lot healthier than smoking weed?

What if said friend calls you a pussy and tells you that you're trying to control him. Fuck this dude.

He sounds like a cunt. Only one thing to do with a cunt and you already said it

yes
what the fuck kind of question is this?
of course its more healthy to not breathe in smoke

Pretty recently I was having this horrible foggy feeling and this feeling in my chest like no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't catch my breath. Wound up having a panic attack outside my gym at one point.
Turns out I still had THC in my system and basically was just having a low level high.
People don't realize how fucking long weed stays in your system, it has a half life of three to four days. So if you wake up after smoking the night before, you're still only just a little less high even if you don't realize it. If you're smoking even 3 times a week, you're going to run into problems.

hah, classic weed paranoia
your friend smokes too much
you dont have to cut him off from your life FOREVER, but leave him alone for a while
no use straining yourself over trivial shit with selfish niggers

Normal weed is pretty shitty and will hinder your cognitive abilities. I was smoking heavily when I was around 16yo, like two grams a day. Almost fucked my future up because of smoking weed. I’m a 35yo boomer now with steady income and a more than stable job, but also with a taste of alcohol, actually too much. Like at least 3 vodka long drinks per night after work. So that’s less than healthy, so I came back to weed, but only the medical stuff. Once every two weeks I smoke a tiny bit of weed high in cbd and so far it’s okay. Best about it is no god damn paranoia at all. Still I am not going all in on it. Drugs are bad, even the slightly better ones.

Probably bait, but I smoke everyday, only workout 3 days a week, only supplement I take is lions mane, and still probably mog you on lifts and aesthetics.

Carl Sagan was an "intellectual" cuck and Joe Rogan is an exception to the rule. He's still a cuck, but at least he attempts to keep himself in shape and works.

GMOs are bad you stupid fuck. They literally put DNA from a fucking bacteria that creates a pesticide into fucking corn. You are eating poisonous corn and onions and pretty soon every fucking thing. I bet you use normal deodorant too you fucking sneaky little devil.

a fucking tripfag calling someone an NPC

what a day

>joe Rogan
t. brainlet

>you are now aware that the paranoia/anxiety you experience on marijuana is actually just greys beaming you with electromagnetic wavelengths from their starships on the astral plane, aka afterlife

in other words punch the fucking anxiety in the face because you can

>hurr how?

practice psychonautics the next time you get lit, perhaps even meditate

>Weed helps me cope with the constant extistensial dread that follows in my footsteps.

This so much. Juggling Uni, working, gym and then some additional work towards my possible future phd often has me in a lot of stress and leaves almost no free time for any form of leisure. Smoking weed really helps me chill out.

in moderation weed is pretty fun and relaxing. Roll up a joint on a Friday night with some friends and some music and have a very fun not active night. That being said if your an absolute brainlet and let yourself get hooked on the stuff it can be a pretty terrible thing. It's a fun thing to do every once in awhile like alcohol. It is not a magic peace herp that will bring you closer to mother earth, will raising all stat points by +3, and everyone that say it is is a coping addict.

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tread carefully OP, weed makes you ok with doing nothing
sure its great for winding down, but after it wears off youll notice that you have just spent 1-2 hours stoned on YouTube or smth

Sounds like your “friend” doesn’t respect you and is selfish asshole. Dump them. Also, I have family members that freak out if they can’t smoke, it’s fucking weird.

I have smoked almost everyday for 11 years, my memory was fucked but its slowly recovering as I don't smoke as much anymore

Smoked daily for about two years and just started being sober, it slowly started being less of a positive in my life. I was definitely self-medicating, and as time went on I started getting worse and worse anxiety and paranoia whenever I sparked up. Stay safe boys, trust how you feel, best not to fuck around with your perception if you’re vulnerable.

Weed is the best pre workout. The first set sucks but after that with some good music on you zone in and get tunnel vision focus

Wiz Khalifa said the exact same thing lol

And look at him, dude’s HUGE amirite

sdasdasd

Well recently hes gotten pretty big doing Muey Thai

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Touche

This

Smoking often is not good, but smoking the occasional joint won’t kill you. If it’s everyday watch out for becoming dependant on it, and the negative effects on learning and memory are also a problem, though not permanent. And smoking regularly when you are under 25, and especially under 18, can harm your brain development

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the problem with weed is its socially acceptable to have at any time of day and regular use saps your motivation and brainpower. because of this and how fucking nice it is for a lot of people it is very habit forming which will leave you tired, lazy and stupid with a drug that is so easy to take and it is so hard to see its bad effects on yourself. if you are regularly challenging your brain (science degree bb) you notice how much foggier your head is but its still hard to see that it takes your motivation away by bypassing your reward system. You don't need to achieve anything to feel good you just need to get home and smoke up
t. ex fackin druggo who now has trouble quitting weed cos it was always there and is a hard habit to kick if all your mates smoke it as well

as a drug user i couldn't agree more. just don't touch it, everything is a gateway to more drugs even if its just more of the same

Enjoy you gyno, faggots.

I pick weed over alcohol any time given my previous experiences with both, simply because of the social context surrounding those two drugs.
Alcohol, you usually end up coerced into drinking it at parties or social events, it doesn't even taste good as often as it should, and hungovers ruin my day while being shitfaced has lost its fun a long time ago.
I reward myself with weed alone on the balcony after a good day & work-out or with with my best friend when on a LAN session and it's amazing because it only makes me lazy and hungry.
The user talking about brain fog is spot on though : use weed to reward yourself, never before having anything meaningful left to be done, because it's a chilling drug.
Usually I need to know I don't have to do shit the day after I decide to smoke, that way I can be my sloppy self as much as I want and unwind while gaming, shit's pretty neat.
However, it is true it's a drug that'll make you an underachiever and it'll definitely drag you down if you smoke daily.

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Never met a stoner who wasn't a fuck up

This. I enjoy smoking a skinny joint on occasion with my girlfriend. Enough to be enjoyable without getting stupid high. Taking bong rips to the face every day for years is a recipe for mental illness

this

i smoke 1-2 times a week and its only a small joint
just enough to get a nice buzz, i have friends who smoke bongs all day everyday and they're a bunch of lazy retards

Yeah well, I learned some cognitive therapy strategies, so I’ll pretty much confront paranoia with the reality. I think I finally grew up

>bad for your heart
how?

you should never feel entitled to smoke in someone else's space (car or home) even if they didn't have a test it could ruin. its smells horrible and it lingers for ages, joints are better than ciggies but they still leave a smell. always ask and never expect, also fucking respect their decision. tell this guy what he did is not on, of he still resents you for it tell him to fuck off. you need to communicate in any relationship because people do stupid shit without realising, don't just cut off what could be a good thing because you couldn't be bothered to talk to a friend. that being said in this situation the guy doesn't seem like the best person to have around in general but especially if you are trying to quit

are you normally the beta in this relationship? tell him you are sick of his shit and why. tell him that this shit is making you not want to hang out with him. also if someone wants you to do something and they resort to irrelevant insults (pussy-/-> no lift) to get what they want they are the type to say anything to get what they want from you, they are selfish and they might do worse down the line

wait until it starts to make you prang out instead of chill out

>Cut this dude off right?
>was perfectly fine risking fucking up your record for a puff
yes, this kind of weed driven selfishness is terminal stoner mind, once you care about your drug more than the well being of your friends you are beyond saving

its the fucking best. you'll get about 3 reps above the set size when you usually grind for that last rep. it vasodilates and allows you to separate/distract your mind from the pain. also love to do judo high cos im pretty experienced and can still perform well on muscle memory

yes by a big margin, but people will call you a faggot on anonymous image boards for vaping so its probably not worth it

It's so not addicting at all really.
Less than coffee.
Weed is addicting in the same way that TV is addicting, I would call it more of a habit than actual addiction, literally just don't be a weak willed faggot.
I went from smoking daily for a year, to quitting cold turkey and the worst withdrawal symptom I experienced was thinking "man I could really use a joint right now".
Whereas alcohol withdrawal can literally kill you.
Only other drug that does this is heroin.
I don't know where you got the retarded idea that these two are anywhere close in regards to addictiveness.

In germany you are legally required to only use water, malt, yeast and hops or you are not allowed to call it beer.