//FRAUD// - Steroid General

Welcome to /fraud/, the shitposting general that has chinese bathtub chemicals as its gimmick.

Before you ask retarded questions (and yes, your question is retarded), make sure you've read the r/steroids wiki at least twice:

reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index

Stop complaining about the Reddit link you fucking faggots. Yes, it's Reddit, but it's a good starter guide. Just read it.

We can't help you dose your AI, even if we are certified internet doctors.

Oral-only cycles put strain on the liver and shut down natural testosterone production for not a lot of benefit. Just put the needle in your butt, you'll thank us later.

No source talk of any kind. It can get you banned.

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dead general haha move to another site

Who the fuck are you

4'9 manlet qq

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What do these people do all day? Look at that dude.

Welcome. You need juice

i juiced for a short period but im too broke now

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Is taking vitamin b12 a meme?

Your a 4'9 manlet you can look buff as fuck without juice

is he natty?

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physique-wise that's 100% naturally obtainable

that's the least skeptical i've been about natty or not probably ever

I just started lifting a few weeks ago, I'm only at 150lb squat but I'm going up 5.5lbs each workout on SL 5x5. I just want to put on muscle and stop looking like such a fat fuck (losing fat atm).
I'm tired of looking small and I'm 20, already so behind compared to most people my age. I'm tempted to buy Dianabol online and using it for 6 weeks and seeing what it does for me when I feel the need to "bulk up".
What do you guys think? Is it too soon?

Oral only cycles are a waste of time

I don't wanna go near any needles.

Then this is not for you.

In short: Will taking Dianabol tablets for 6 weeks just a few weeks into lifting give noticeable muscle gains? I want to keep them afterwards and just stop looking like a skinnyfat dyel

God damn you asked a retarded stupid question now I have to wait to ask my stupid ass question. Idiot

I don't like to gatekeep, but yeah it's way too soon for you to /fraud/.
Unfuck your diet, drop some bodyfat and figure out how to train before injecting/taking orals

Would running clen with PCT be plausible?

Clen is not a steroid, so no pct required. You need to read the OP.

You're misunderstanding, after my cycle while I'm doing the pct can i also run clen?

You can do whatever you please man. You don’t need a Mongolian goat trading posts permission.

Im asking would there be any negative side effects?

You realize that orals are harder on your body than injectables right?

Clen is all negative sides. Learn how to eat.

Eat shit nigger

If you’re this delicate natty it’ll be a bitch when your estradiol is through the roof and you can’t handle yourself. Do some research my dude. I can tell you that everything you’ll need to know is in the OP.

I literally did the exact same thing. 21 years old, lifted for 6 weeks then started a cycle of 500mg test-e per week. Did 18 weeks and got huge (compared to where I was before. Go for it, but do a ton of research first

Suck my fucking dick retard

wow, language...

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> got huge

Doubt it. Post a pic

Yeah this, nobody gets satisfied with their 500mg results

>needs to be spoonfed information
>accuses others of being a retard

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Why do I leak so much blood when injecting tren? And why was the blood from my last injection so dark?

>>needs to be spoonfed information
Uhh asking something that isnt answered elsewhere makes you spoonfed haha

I'm stopping tren after 9 weeks (was on 525mg a week) because I don't want to pin eod anymore and I think the tren is giving me shitty depressive spells.

What's a good lean bulk blast that doesn't involve tren or deca?

Holy shit I didnt know tyler1 browses Jow Forums

As I said I got huge in comparison to where I was at. 150-190lbs at 6'1". I'm starting another cycle in January

Sperm

Yo dudes. Hypothetically, If you're running 500 test and not working out and eating below maintenance will you lose fat? Will the test preserve the muscle?

>reddit link
Yeah, fuck off.

Find a better one

Thoughts on 500 blast and 250 mg cruise on test e for life?

You will shut down your natural test production and bloat. You won’t keep any strength or muscle gains, but you will get to keep the gyno.
Ideally you want to be 23-25 minimum and not scared of a little needle in your ass to do it properly.

You sound like you don’t know what you’re doing

Who tf is scared of pinning? That shit is soo easy! I pin twice a week quads and it feels amazing!

WHO WOULDNT WANT LEGS LIKE THIS? Frank McGrath is a freak

Pretty much this. But these little pussies are scared of needles and would rather temporarily get all bloated up from orals, little do they know the bitch tits waiting for them on the other end of the cycle LOOOOOL

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Had to buy new clothes this weekend and still couldn’t find anything that wasn’t tight on the thighs. It’s putting me off leg day!

I fucked up my pin a little this morning. Sunday’s are left glute day and my hands were greasy from moisturiser. I could barely squeeze the syringe with my left hand and keep it steady, then thought I was done, took it out and there’s was still about 0.25ml left. I’m guessing I’ll have some PIP later on!

This exact response gets posted in every new /fraud/. I'm convinced this is a bot.

Does injecting into scar tissue slow down the absorption rate (tren a)? I only inject into the outer left / right quads and I'm constantly hitting scar tissue. Arms have too much outer / superficial scarring and I refuse to inject into glutes.

FST7 with gear and a good diet FORCES you to grow. Lol I’ll stick with this blueprint for a while and just adjust volume as needed. Good to hear it’s working for you though.

What gauge needles are you using to pin? NO GEAR GOES TO WASTE lolol

Starting to get thicker from the dbol and my girl is loving the bloat. What the fuck.

I hate having puffy tits from pre gyno and water retention.

I wonder if I should ride the deca cruise train. Once I finish these 5 weeks of dbol and 500 Test E I need to cruise to get some kind of break.

So TEMPTING.

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torgo nudho?

I’m at the end of week 7 of this cycle so expecting growth to kick off shortly. Unfortunately I’ve been doing a bit of travelling and eating out with work so diet has suffered over the last couple of weeks - a big part of me just wants to cut.

I use 25g with 3ml syringes. It utterly painless in the glutes. There’s always a tiny bit left in the luer lock and I’m always tempted to draw it out an put it back in the vial, lol.

The MT2 came with 0.5ml syringes and 30g 8mm (5/16) pins - they struggle to break the skin

im like a week into a cruise on 150mg a week test prop... been blasting pretty much all year, how long should i wait to check bloods?

Are you throwing in growth too? Should also help you with staying lean. I’ve been cheating a bit too with my diet, especially after starting epistane a few days ago. I’m kinda addicted to constantly growing, so completely shredding isn’t really in my line of sight at the moment. When I do cut, I’ll probably run tren, test, and superdrol.

I think I use 23g to draw or something with a 27g screw on. Makes sense the MTII would come with such a short needle. How are you liking it? Notice any difference yet? I’d really like to get on it, then I can actually tan less and still get darker.

You should just blast and wait another 5 years you fucking dumbass

Is this look achievable natty?

not trying to sound dumb, but planning on juicing for the first time,
if i do a slight calorien surplus like +200/+300 high protein, will i lose fat while also gaining muscle with e7d 2ml testo e for around 3 months?
pic unrelated, i love big tiddy goth gfs

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Not hgh, but recently started with mk677. Still too early to see if it’s making any difference. I started drinking milk again too and I think that’s what’s making me feel bloated. I used to go through about 4-6 pints a day, gave it up and now I’m feeling lactose intolerant. Sucks! Tempted to run some tren but not sure if I’d like it, or I’d like it too much. Just test e at 500mg a week for now

It’s day 4 of MT2. Not sickness or nausea, but sleeping well. Starting to see some colour change too. I’m a lighter chase than you with blue eyes, some freckles and blonde/brown hair so not expecting to go too dark. Need to keep an eye on it and remember to stop at the right time. I’ll look odd if I go full African

Not asking for a source.

Just wondering what the average cost is for different cycles.

Dbol. Tren... abcde? Blast? I dunno, what does it cost do do this?

Depends on the source.

tren is fairly expensive
dbol is dirt cheap
and a blast of what?

>new gym is about to open that only costs $30 a month plus has tanning.
>old gym was $90 but had giant pools that I never used.

All that extra gear money. Woo baby

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Your terminology is fucked. Your completely arbitrary amount of test will give you completely arbitrary results.

Feel like I'm making it boys. Everything has come together really quickly and suddenly, but some for some reason I feel depressed and I don't know why.

>23yo
>previously making 25/y while studying, now on 90k/y with bonuses factored in
>decent lifts, 5432
>cruising on 150mg for the past year
>progressing nicely with martial arts, kind of a mid level guy a few years in and at a point where I can confidently handle most people and make it look easy. Medaling in local competitions ect.
>qt smart successful gf

There's nothing more after this. I feel so empty. I might implode everything just to see what happens and spice things up a little.

whats confusing about 500mg testo once a week, with a surplus of 200/300 calories a day ?

Congratulations. You've realised that it isn't the destination that gives you purpose. It's the journey; the struggle.

You feel empty because you've pretty much reached what most people aspire to.

Don't implode everything, that's a stupid idea. Trust me.

Simply move the goalpost.

The road ahead is much steeper than the road I already traveled. a 4pl8 bench isn't 33% harder than a 3pl8 bench, it's exponentially more difficult. The same applies for my career, combat sports, money. Now that I'm at the destination setting off for the next destination is daunting, because it can only get harder as the highs get higher and higher.

I'm having trouble deciding on my future goals, which certainly doesn't help. Past 5432 I really don't care about lifting and past being able to beat 99% of people I don't care about martial arts.

I'm just looking for a general average per cycle.

Lets say average cost for the first cycle listed in the reddit link from the OP.

3x10ml vials, SARMS, all that shit.

What's a general average for 15 weeks?

Yeah for sure, I'm certainly not denying that it gets exponentially harder. That is the filter to great things; if it was easy then everyone would be amazing at everything.

But no one says that the road ahead has to follow the same path as the road behind.

You're right though, simply deciding on future goals is difficult. At least take solace in the fact that you're not content with your success so far. That is when people turn to shit - when they're comfortable.

i think people have over hyped the benefits and side effects of tren massively on here. id say try it, but try it in reasonable small doses for the first 4 weeks.

it does shoot up my blood pressure a lot though. i have a blood pressure monitor and meds to keep it down

400mg test

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If that's what test gets you, I'm fine staying natty lol.

Lmao

>people have over hyped the benefits and side effects of tren massively on here.
Can confirm as the threads main Tren abuser.

You will get brain cancer which you probably already have by now, because there is no other logical explanation for being this fucking retarded

I don't understand how you people see this shit as ''making it''. Dude those things are just mandatory. Seriously I see fucking beta ass people irl that have just the same as you and they still ain't making it. Why do you ask? BECAUSE YOU NEED LOOKS, MONEY AND MUSCLE. You can't not have only one of the tree and think you fucking made it.

Also people who made it don't say they made it, THEY FUCKING WALK THE WALK NOT TALK THE TALK

>There's nothing more after this
>I feel depressed and I don't know why
That's because you don't set new goals in life and you are happy with the things you currently have. Being satisfied is the fucking cancerous disease you need to get rid of. FUCKING DREAM BIG. The shit you have achieved means fucking NOTHING. Maybe to some beta ass wizards over here with no ambition in life.

This is a joke right?

>You're right though, simply deciding on future goals is difficult
>deciding on future goals is difficult
No it's not faggot.

THERE is always room for improvement. Nobody is flawless. There is nothing that cannot be improved. Look at yourself in the mirror, you will see at least 5 or more flaws. Look at those fucking beta eyes and chin and jawlet face. Disgusting

Look at those fucking small girly arms and toothpick legs. Look at that balding spot and wrinkles in your face. Try to grap that little clitoris you call a penis. Fuck it's barely fitting in your hand it's only 4 inch when enchanted

It's hard because all of you faggots are in denial. COPE. IGNORANCE IS BLISS

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Is this achievable natty?

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For most of the people it is, but not for you

You don't think having a 100k income prior to being 25 while being fit and in a happy relationship is making it? We're talking about being in the 99th percentile in multiple areas simultaneously.

New goals is obviously the answer, but you sound like a 90 iq self help book written by a normie caricature of a gym rat. CONCEIVE, BELIEVE, ACHIEVE.

There is so much space on the quads, why keep it to those areas? Other than that, there are ventroglutes and delts.

>There’s always a tiny bit left in the luer lock

When you see that the stopper has reached the end, do you not wait another 20-30 seconds? Usually that gets it all out.

physique wise yeah maiby. His powerlevels not in 10000 years sadly

About $200, give or take. The test itself will only cost about $75. A 60 count of aromasin will be about $60. Syringes/pins another $35. Plus shipping.

PCT (Nolvadex plus more aromasin) will put you a little bit over 200. Especially if you get HCG.

The fact you all get defensive and butt hurt says already enough and proves my point.

You can call me retarded all you want. End of the day i still btfo you in all things you care about in life. But you don't see me humble brag about it. Because i don't feel like i need to talk about shit that is considered normal by most people.

Like I said ignorance is bliss. As long you don't know any better you can keep on believing in this cancerous fairy tale and humble brag in front of some virgin wizards

BUTT MUHH I MADE IT, WHAT DO I DO GUIYZZZ. WHICH STICKER I GET NOW

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You don't have a smart qt GF though. You date an ugly girl who cuts herself.

MAN SAYS I WANNA BE SUCCESSFUL, OKAY GO TO THE BEACH MEET ME THERE AT 5AM, MAN SAYS OK. NOW GO OUT INTO WATER, DEEPER INTO WATER, MAN HEAD UNDER WATER, CANT BREATHE, GOTTA WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL AS MUCH AS YOU WANT TO BREATHE.

50 CENT SAYS, HE DONT SLEEP.

Where are the pics you can do better then?

TALK THE TALK. You cannot backup one of those things you mentioned. All you do it TALK like the bitch you are.

If i talk about shit i come with fucking proof. Here i found the picture behind the beta posts, LEKE GYUIUZ I MADE IT I AM TRELLING GUIYZ

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If you are so proud of all those things you achieved in life, why don't you show us what's fucking up. Words mean shit, i can tell you all I am a fucking millionaire dating the hottest models known to mankind.

Why would you hide those things you are truly proud of. Perhaps you are not that proud of it and perhaps you are just all talking bullshit

FUCKING HUMBLE BRAG FAGGOTS. IF YOU HAVE IT SHOW IT AND OTHERWISE DON'T HIT IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T GOT IT

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Thinking of getting some sarms

Mk2866 cycle then maybe rad140 cycle.
Should I take clopin in between or during? Im new to this

Mast, serious question, is your girl open about cutting or does she hide it at all cost? If its the latter please reconsider how you handle your relationship.

Why would I need to prove something that is perfectly normal and mandatory in your eyes? It's not like asking me to prove that I have two hands based on the definitions you've placed on those things.

very low iq jeez louise

You ARE bragging about it by counter signaling him though. Which is even more cringe

>user talks about setting meaningful goals
>mast talks about meaningless lookism face bullshit
Ahahaha like why not tell him to get rid of all the crab grass on his lawn or make sure his tires are inflated properly make that his "goal" lmao

Ok retard coming through, If Im doing 500mg Test E a week does that mean Im injecting 250mg every 3.5 days or just 500mg every 3.5 days

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Oh you’ve done it now lol.

Are you are couple therapist? I have much more more to talk about if that is the case.

Because you got nothing, otherwise you wouldn't hesitate to attach some attachments those those beta posts of yours.

But instead you go all defensive and try to explain why you should not attach any proof to those posts, because that's not how you substantiate arguments. Seems like your IQ is too high and keeps you from thinking rational/logical right.

But it's true tho. It's not humble bragging. I can actually show it if that is needed. You never see me brag about shit without evidence. Because unlike you I am not a cancerous nobody that hides behind a anonymous name on a perma virgin wizard board.

Where is he setting goals? He said he he achieved everything he wanted and now is satisfied. I am just making him aware that the thing she has are considered normal by most people, except for most of the fucking losers on this board that are happy with 11 inch arms an ugly face and a skinny fat body.

I know it's hard for you to understand and interpreted these kinds of terms since you are so far into this fucking cope and denial pathetic mindset that every time somebody is mentioning these kind of hard reality checks you just hold your hands before your eyes count till 10 and then hope it magically disappears.

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Just expressing concern, I'm all too familiar with self harm.
Feel free to dump anything if you care, I'll even provide my shit if you want.

>my bf cowboys me for anal
>I can feel those butt bones beating the shit out of my pelvis

I dont understand, I've done it with multiple people over the course of my life, and they are neither anorexic nor fatasses, though mostly on the lighter side.

he has a pretty juicy ass too so theres no reason the bones should smash me with all that soft protection