Best supplements for mood/ social anxiety?

500mg of buck-up, buckaroo

lifestyle factors are most important.
for supplements, glycine, magnesium, and taurine.

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>SAM-E
Holy shit, first time I hear of this. Could you describe its effects?

Iodine, Zinc, and Magnesium. Cycles of black coffee can also help.

This seems like snake oil that can permanently damage your psyche

does nothing if you get enough B vitamins and your methylation isn't fucked up.
if you're bipolar, it makes you manic.
just eat enough meat.

it fucks you up like other monoamine reuptake inhibitors, but it also fucks up your eyes due to its photosensitizing effects.

CBD oil

I have a friend who takes this and he wont shut his cocksucker about it to literally everyone. Is a side effect "annoying faggotness"? Also hes all "dude weed lmao" now

Ya, it puts me on an even keel. The user who says it does nothing is retarded and has no idea what he is talking about. I've tried just about every meme you can try outside of SSRIs and it's the only thing that works. Vitamin D gives me energy but doesn't really touch the depression Sam-E does both with both together I never need a cup of coffee.

Don't take my word for it DYOR. You'll find that SAM-E has been shown to be just as effective as SSRI's (in some cases more effective) in clinical trials with absolutely NO side effects.

I've been stocking up on it because I know that as soon as it threatens these pharma companies it will be pulled from shelves and require a prescription. The price per pill has already shot up in the last 5 years.

>The user who says it does nothing is retarded and has no idea what he is talking about.
learn to read, retard.
>does nothing if you get enough B vitamins and your methylation isn't fucked up.
>if you get enough B vitamins and your methylation isn't fucked up

also, I've actually bought and tried high-dose SAMe. it did nothing for my depression.

I'm Keto and I take vitamin D so your "unless" bullshit is just that.

If you have major depression it may not cure it just like any SSRI. There is a reason why docs have people switch meds around until the right one clicks.

Sam-e works, there may be some people it doesn't work on akin to Prozac not working for all people. You are the exception not the rule.

being keto doesn't mean you get enough B vitamins or that your methylation isn't fucked.
SSRI's don't cure depression at all, they suppress it short term and actually worsen it long term. people switch meds because the side effects are shit. there isn't a right med against depression (or the chronic treatment of any psychiatric disorder, for that matter), and they don't click. it's just that some have worse side effects than others, and often people's life circumstances change and they falsely attribute changes in their disorder to the change in meds.
SAMe doing nothing if you get enough B vitamins and have proper methylation is not an exception.
look up what SAMe actually is, look up what methylation is. it then should come as no surprise what I'm saying.

to be clear, I'm not saying that SAMe doesn't help your depression, or that it can't help anyone elses depression.
I'm saying that taking SAMe usually doesn't address any root causes, and that it's better to get nutrients that are actually found in food (in nature).

Phenibut

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pussy

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>Unfortunately, approximately 60% of people in the United States have a genetic mutation that makes it challenging for their bodies to create enough 5-MTHF
>60% of people cannot make enough Sam-E
>60%

Last time I checked 60% of something is the majority.

How are you right about this again?

this is exactly what I was saying, stupid.
I've stated many times
>if you get enough B vitamins and your methylation isn't fucked up
>and your methylation isn't fucked up

dude, please read other people's posts before replying.

>Sam-e will work for most people
>it only works for people who don't get enough B vitamins and your methylation isn't fucked up
>Methylation doesn't work for 60% of the mass populous AKA MOST PEOPLE

Why did you bother opening your fucking mouth then? Your post didn't add anything to the conversation. Eating right/taking vitamin B isn't going to magically fix the problem because most people genetically have an issue making the shit. There is literally no downside taking Sam-E while doing what you say.

stop being so needlessly defensive.
you quoted yourself
>genetic mutation that makes it challenging for their bodies to create enough 5-MTHF
5-MTHF is a bioactive form of folate, which you can find in a quality B vitamin complex. folate can also be found in high quantities in certain foods, like beef liver.
if people ate higher quality foods, like grass-fed beef and liver, they wouldn't have any problem synthesizing enough SAMe.

>There is literally no downside taking Sam-E
supplementing things that are found in food, like folate, is preferable to supplementing things that aren't found in food, because they can have a ton of side effects that you might not be aware of. for example, if someone has a mood disorder, SAMe can make them (hypo)manic, while eating beef liver probably won't.

Danger ? side effect ?

>Taurine
The stuff in RedBull ?

yeah, it's found in high quantities in certain cuts of beef and organ meats.
don't drink RedBull though...

Its an amino acid, no danger. No side effects really, well it boosts memory retention. It can make you drowsy if you take too much, which is why I like it with caffeine. At night 600mg is real nice, feels like im melting into my bed.

I was enjoying this keep going.

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>Its an amino acid, no danger.
that's not true, and especially not for l-theanine, which isn't even really found in food.

Then describe what's dangerous about it? As far as I could tell from my research it's completely safe, you'd need rediculous amounts to do damage.

note to OP, you WILL get addicted to Phenibut if you start relying on it

>but not safe
Why not? I've been using phenibut 1-2x a week for almost a year now and haven't noticed any repercussions.

Try quitting and see what happens
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Ashwaghanda is great for both reducing anxiety and boosting energy. Side effect is that you will get super horny all the time.

I quit for a 3 month period and didn't have any withdrawal symptoms. Did perfectly fine without it aside from not being as sociable as it usually makes me. Granted I take low doses and not very often.

I read it reduce the sperm count + heavy metal poisoning

if you get it from china yeah. If not it will increase sperm count.

Animal fats and organ meats, seriously. Ear delicious liver fatty fish and steak for a few days and it will improve greatly. Drop all plants too desu

It's really not as dangerous as people say provided you keep your doses reasonable. I never go over 1.5g, my usual dose is 500mg or 1g if I'm going to a party or something

this is really cheap. I think i'll try it

unironically eating two kiwis before bed its working really well for me.
Im also taking salsa lessons that might have had an impact as well.

I drank St. John's wort tea and I've never seen my face get redder than that. Scared the shit outta me.

Propranolol is the best thing I've ever tried for social anxiety.

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I tried this along with an antidepressant (posivil I think) in my 20s

I was feeling better but in my case it gave me ED (I'm not sure which one of those tho).

I rather be depressed than medicated.

As long as you keep it to 1-2x a week, you're fine.

im convinced this shit is snake oil. it does absolutely nothing.

Try it with some CBD

>Try it with some CBD
I'm stupid, I meant THC

I didn't notice much help with this

That pictures is so fucked up, how could they put him on their as if he belonged there as if he wasn’t just a piece of shit criminal. How could they put Mandela on there.

The testosterone trifecta: magnesium, zinc, vitamin D.

Thyroid health: iodine, selenium

Amino acid deficiency: Acetyl L Carnitine (Stanford study says 2/3 of people with depression are deficient)

Neurosteroid for cognitive health: pregnenolone

Ancient herbal supplement used for 1000s of years: St. John's Wort

Pheni has effectively turned me into a Chadlite. I used to be that good looking but autistic guy who couldn't hold a conversation for the life of me, but pheni has literally turned my life around and made me both chill and sociable at the same time. Also I'm a light sleeper and minor insomniac, but on pheni I have no trouble sleeping at all. The only thing is if you use it multiple days in a row you feel like utter shit for the days.

Ok talk to me about psychedelics. Would they actually permanently alter my mind if I did lsd once? How would you say they actually benefit you?

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CBD, the strongest placebo known to mankind.

They do permanently alter your mind, but probably not like you're thinking. LSD removes your brains natural filters so you experience all the raw light and sensory data pouring into your brain. Basically you see all the "noise" your mind filters out.

So for example, if you look at a picture on the wall right now, it seems to be a still object with a set shape. On acid it would be fluctuating and moving, and you'd see all the crazy ways the light interacts with it. It appears to be a moving, living thing.

Your brain will go back to normal after you're sober, but sometimes when you let your eyes unfocus a little and stare at a repetetive or chaotic pattern in the carpet, you'll vaguely see it start to "move" again like when you were on acid. Basically you'd just be noticing something you could never notice before you did acid, because you didn't know what to look for.

I'm the guy you asked. Personally I don't think acid is the best one to do for personal transformation. Potential to get freaked out is much higher and the dose you need is also much higher than with ayahuasca(or something close to it. I use syrian rue+mimosa hostilis, very good chance you can find it in your country or that you can just order it. Look the recipe up on dmt nexus for experiences of people on it)
One of the main features of ayahuasca is the ego "death". You literally feel as if you are dying, although for no apparent reason and with no associated pain. Once you get through that you can see the world through a completely different perspective without all the bullshit you accumulated throughout the years.
Everything you had previously categorized and placed neatly in a box inside your mind is suddenly important again and demands to be thought of again. You literally have lifechanging realisations at the drop of a hat.
This is coming from someone that was tfwnogf/friends for about 4 years just 1 year ago.I would have panic attacks just walking down the street. 1 week ago I ran into my waifu from highschool and we already got together and I'll prolly sleep with her next time I see her.
I have met and talked to more new people in the last 6 months than in the rest of my life.
The best part I think is if you can find someone to talk to while tripping. Since the part of your brain that controls the ego is asleep you will literally be talking straight from the heart, no filter. The first time it happened I couldnt believe talking was this easy. Not only can I talk nonstop when not tripping but just going with the flow I express myself better than when I was overthinking everything. I actually don't know what it's like to feel anxiety anymore.
I can continue with my experience/tips n tricks if you want.

Don't do SSRIs. I was told they'd help my anxiety and they only worsened it. thigns got better after I stopped them and just started caring. My mom takes SSRIs and she's an emotional wreck and is worse than before. If you're not diagnosed with anything, just forget it and talk to people, user. Godspeed.

Only works with situational anxiety, not chronic stuff. If that was your issue.

It's supposed to calm you down, which is why people take it with caffeine as a morning ritual.

Pretty accurate. It also permanently enhanced weed for me. Now getting high if I do a decent amount it becomes like a mini psychedelic trip.

The best fix for mood and anxiety will never be a supplement

Eat healthy diet that naturally contain Omega 3s and vitamin D
Exercise regularly
Meditation/Prayer/Belly breathing
Change your environment to be around positive people
Remind yourself that anxiety is not grounded in logical reality, the imaginative portion of the brain is engaged with anxious thoughts. Do activisties that engage the logic portion of your brain.
Start journaling your hectic thoughts.

How much social media are you using?
How many pictures of attractive people are you looking at?
How much news do you read/watch?
Unhealthy love from upbringing? Get therapy or read some books about cognitive behavioral therapy

there's no such thing as experiencing unfiltered reality
LSD just gives you different sensory patterns, not unfiltered ones

>The best fix for mood and anxiety will never be a supplement
D3 and zinc helped me pull through a tough depression, don't just dismiss supplements.

cbd oil with thc

Especially since it's often difficult to impossible to consume the 5k-10k IU of d3 a day needed to increase serum levels from non-supplement-fortified foods

Shrooms made me confident as fuck while on them and for a few days after. Felt like a god

Youd have to microdose it often though

>thc

Ah yes, nothing like paranoia to relieve the social anxiety

I've done a 2 months break from ayahuasca and I still felt exactly the same. If you work on it you can maintain that state

fasting for a week and eating fermented foods afterwards.
also start doing 30 min cardio

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Thank you, Captain Obvious. I clearly meant "relatively unfiltered." If your brain lost absolutely all pattern-making ability, you would be slumped on the floor unable to make sense of up or down, or to tell darkness from light.

It may very well be the case that a lack of some such vitamin or component of food is driving an altered mental or emotional state so a supplement may in fact be the most practical way to deal with it.

Get your genes tested and run through promethease or something similar. You might have few dopamine receptors, you might need some type of vitamin or mineral in greater quantities than other people but you are getting it, just check your dna as a first measure.

SAM-E can be a terrible mind altering supplement depending on your genes. If you have an MTHFR variant you won't want to supplement with this. If you are a meat eater you won't need to supplement with this.

i smoke pot in the morning then go to work
helps break the monotony

folate isn't the only methyl donor though. I found this out recently, possessing the worst mthfr variant in existence. for people with mthfr variants they should be eating high betaine and choline foods to supplement for a lack of methyfolate. If you have fucked up methylation and supplement with sam-e you will only be contributing to your pool of homocysteine which cant be recycled through the folate mechanism. You will need b5 i believe to shuttle the homocysteine into the glorious glutathione.