2018 is almost over

Im positive its a "the grass is always greener" situation, but I cant stand woman whose primary focus are socialization and sex anymore. I did nothing but chase after pussy in my teens and early twenties, and would unironically trade anything to have kept my virginity far longer than I did. I don't meet women who seem worth loving anymore. I have memories of old crushes who are pure and so caring in my head, but everyone I meet in my adult-life either over focuses on the aforementioned socialization and sex as the primary day to day justification for life, or have done it to such an extent that they don't have anything else to offer, even if they dont want that lifestyle anymore. Especially at your age. What tiny percent of women are worth an actual shit at 20? What values do they hold?

IMHO if you let women go and focus on yourself; your body and hobbies and skills, then one day youll find the right people. Its a long life, and by 25 you'll be an ENTIRELY different human being than who you are at 20. Who you are tonight will die, and it may be that no one will mourn or remember him. But there will be a man in his place. Work on making that man as strong and wise and experienced as possible. Maybe a woman worth giving a damn about will find that man worthy of true love and devotion.

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Religious girls brah. Loyal and have something they actually believe in. Fuckin postmodernists these days I swear

Religious girls are crazier and all religious women eventually cheat.

Thank you for the wise words. Right now I think I want to focus on career or education but don't know what to do. Sure as hell do not want to go back to uni even though it's what my parents want. Maybe trades, but I'm not passionate about that either.

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>all women eventually cheat
FTFY

>talk to girl on tinder
>she keeps saying i'm hot/cute
>set up time to meet up
>don't even want it

I'm not a virgin and I've had sex with multiple partners, but I'm just tired if it all.
I don't even want to hang out with her.

Does anyone understand this feel?

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Its easy to talk like that, but the thing that hurts the most is that most of the women (and men for that matter) that I feel have such limited value and that I pass off as Thots so I dont need to worry myself about it aren't postmodernists of hedonists or anything of that sort. It isn't ideological for them and I don't think they've reasoned themselves into it.

Its just the default they've come into. It was fun and rewarding and everyone was having a great time but now its a repetitive system each weekend and they're only getting older. Maybe they're just like a lot of the people posting in /SIG/ or /fat/, they just havn't yet realized that theyre unhappy with living off of the most basic impulses available to them? Or maybe thats all they need to be happy, maybe theyll die doing what they love: Flirting at bars and looking for their next lay. I just wish I hadn't put pussy on some pedestal when I was young. I understand wanting the emotional connection, but if you value that above sex, then you'll be constantly out to wait for someone you really click with and not someone who will put out. Hindsights 20/20 and whatever but goddamn do I regret it.

Also the only two religious girls I ever dated were RIDICULOUSLY tethered to their parents. Constantly ran over to them whenever she had a free day or for any given holiday. I get the importance of family, but it was clear there was some sort of compulsive need at work with them

You're either gonna be super happy slamming that chick on the downlow every day, or she's gonna meet some other dude and fuck his brains out every day at your house and it's gonna make you wanna kill yourself.

I would probably atleast double down on the sexual shit so she knows that you're not losing interest and that you're gonna fuck the shit out of her. The actual intelligent choice is to cut her off and not move in with her but you do you buddeh.

>One chance at life
>Just so happened to be born in the worst period in modern history to be a non-Chad male

Bravo

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I can relate to that. Ive become a lot more concerned with having some long term employable skill under my belt as i've crept towards my late 20s. I'll never have the money to get through higher education, and just like you said I can't find any trades that interest me specifically. My stance has started to become a "get in and get it done" with a technical career. Its a huge whore (ive heard) do get through uni if you dont want it, but i dont think any tradesmen necessarily needs you bouncing up and down with eagerness to learn from. Im looking for something that seems tolerable and then finding personal fulfillment through means outside of my career.

Yeah, it's worth it. If you go for the slampigs/whores then it's not worth it at all, but if you go for enjoyable, kind people (and most women are indeed kind, but Jow Forums goes for the sexual whores and then cries about it) then you can expect a happy and fulfilling life. Highlights include things such as;

>user, can we go for a swim? I'll teach you to swim properly and spot rips.
>Can we just go home? I know we've only been at the beach for 3 hours but I really wanna cuddle.
>Constantly feels guilty whenever I buy her food/presents and so gets very cuddly to try and make up for it, then pays me back anyway.

Feels good buddeh. We're all gonna make it, get yourself a qt virgin tomboy gf.

Is khhv a typo or what does the second h mean?

You have finally realized that casual sex is peak degeneracy and that the only thing it does is slowly draining your soul.

You're ready, user. Take the traditionalist pill

probably holding hands

>he doesn't know about church thots and trad thots

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Get out user get out! become the better man you were meant to be.

Trades do seem like the best option (real life skill, limited uni/college needed, pretty alpha jobs) and my entire family is tradesmen but my dad said it's not always worth it. He worked 7 days a week as a mechanic for 30+ years and made good money but really doesn't have any more than a mild passion for cars. At least not like when he was young. On the other hand my cousins are in plumbing and construction and living it up.

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Damn how have some people not even held hands?

Trust me autism and isolation is no joke. Was never fat, average face, probably the biggest reason I never had gf is because I never tried.

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> when you're just a v so you have some hope

>but you are 23

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Kind of same situation although I've held hands and hugged, but that was when I was younger and was friends with girls I knew. But I started having to move a few times so I was kind of an outsider in schools since everyone knew each other except me.

>He worked 7 days a week as a mechanic for 30+ years

My biggest fear with trades are being unable to find one that doesnt require the vast majority of my time committed to the company as a prerequisite. I have no idea if its a reasonable fear but its kept me hesitating for now.

Fuck Elliot Rodger.
I'm living where he did his bullshit and now the parties and social life sucks.

He didn't even kill anyone important to him. he killed fellow incels.

He owns the shop with my uncle and they're employed. They never had to work 7 days a week but feel obligated to so they can get as much done as possible since shit piles up fast with just 2 people.

*self employed

Normalfags btfo

And he didn't kill incels he killed a few betas and a few low level roasties

Well that sounds pretty fucking based. 2019 is the year I take the Trade Pill goddammit all. I have enough self interests and personal goals to stay motivated and fulfilled while having a job that, although it doesnt excite me, keeps me financially secure and allows me the pride of knowing im working with my hands and supporting myself. Thanks for the motivation user. I wish I was looking at life this way when I was your age.

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>had a qt virgin spend more time around me than anybody else
>asked her out, she said yes, still fucked it up
>tick tock less than a month left of 2018

ok it's a sign im on the right path in life otherwise this wouldn't have happened much less have any girl even want to be near me but still

i just want to not hate myself and be ok with finding and letting others into my life so it's less empty

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>normalfags eternally BTFO
based elliot

Well I am still a dropout for now. But we'll all make it one day.

Does being forcibly hugged and picked up in middle school by a swimmer girl that literally towered me back then count?

26yo here i wanna die

Did she want to pick you up or was it a dare/a chance for her to mog you?

No she thought i was cute back then so she just picked me up and hugged me while i was mid air lol

>been on tinder for a whole year after fwb dumped you
>have good pics but too scared to meet anyone since hairloss crept in
>dozens of girls talked to you but never made any plans to visit them except this one where we really clicked online but she was hella obese irl
>dont feel like meeting anyone anymore, know they just wont be as adventurous as my previous fwb (she made all the moves), while i had social anxiety
>women literally have so many options, its demeaning to put in effort and instead just dedicate more time on self improving/making money/persuing talents
>find out all you need is validation, everything else is a waste of time and women are gains goblins to your emotions
>almost 30 and still never had a gf

Considering I obsess over anybody who gives me attention, it's for the best. Nobody should find out how strongly I love them.

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Its just pussy man, what are you afraid of? That you're going to be terrible at sex when you get to it? How many times do you actually think it takes to get into the swing of one of the most instinctive physical undertakings in your brain? If you're with someone who would judge you for it then theyre shallow and to hell with them, and if its with someone who cares for you then they wont mind. Worried about PE? In my experience thats what I was afraid of, and it led to me having difficulties getting it hard the first few times out of fear. But again, people aren't idiots and understand that that happens. And it happens a LOT. I have more stories than I could share from people of all walks of life in bars of them immediately shooting off or being unable to get it up from alcohol or nerves. It happens a lot and most women will have experience with it. This is all undercut if you find someone that matters. And you'll do that by bettering yourself and not worrying about losing your virginity. And who fucking cares if you go wizard mode. Sex isnt the most incredibly feeling in the world. Go snowboarding or play music in front of a crowd goddammit. People who have a lot of sex dont hold it in value. They just do it a lot because its available, just like we do when we watch porn. The only place where sex is some Olympus of Being is in porn.

You WILL find the right person if you keep bettering yourself and manage to get your autistic self outside of the house now and again. And if by some sentencing of God you don't then youll be some absurdly alpha Chadwizard with outlandish talents. Just don't waste your time.

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I'd say it counts then

>tfw no gf is fading
>tfw not a grail knight serving The Lady increases every day

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I got lucky and got to second base with a girl lol. First time i ever did amything with a girl and it was like a dream(19 btw). *sigh* still lonely tho

>serving a thot and putting your life at her disposal

Refer to Her Grace in such a manner to my face irl, not over the internet, see what happens.

absolutely delusional

>durr there are whores that lie and pretend to be X so no women that are actually X exist!

I fucked up and didn't ask this girl out when it was obvious I should have and ill never see her again now cause I'm done interning. feelsterribleman. had to get it off my chest

I know what you say holds truth but every year that passes i stray further from the chance of getting a gf that wont cuck me, im 26 and single women my age are absolutely degenerates and entitled selfish cunts,
Every year that passes i feel the odds of dying alone increasing, the best relationship i had was when i was 17 dating a 15yo girl it really felt like love, i and im certain theres no way to have something like that that at 25 and theres also my dicklet problem i guess i wouldn't worry about this shit to much if i wasnt such a 5 inches dicklet

>my age
Why do you subscribe to modern feminist concept of courting a woman your own age?

Age gap of even 10-15 years is perfectly healthy and has been the norm for hundreds of thousands of years.

You will be alright friendo.

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I went to my first ever frat party and fucked a girl i met there. Am i chad?

Nice, i'm only a kv now

Yeah ill sympathize with you on that front, as i've said before in the thread I cant fathom finding a woman my age who isnt a vapid piece of meat or just fucking broken in some way. Im going to start doing the volunteer work days a lot of the Natural Resource agencies do here, and maybe meet some wholesome innawoods woman there....or a bunch of vegan whores, who knows.

And I hate to be that guy but:
>The BJUI research used data from 17 studies, and the study participants totaled more than 15,000 men. In addition to the averages listed previously, the analysis charted sizes and placed them into percentiles.

>For example, an erect penis of 6.3 inches is in the 95th percentile. That means that out of 100 men, only five would have a penis longer than 6.3 inches.

>Likewise, an erect penis of 3.94 inches is in the 5th percentile, meaning that only five men out of 100 would have a penis shorter than 3.94 inches.

If you found a woman worth loving I dont think a 5 inch dick would be some end of the world catastrophe.

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For me Its more of an issue that the only girls I remember being genuinely decent are those of my memories from youth. And this may come as a shock to you user, but dating teenagers can be incredibly frustrating as most of them are fucking idiots and obsessed with the material. My biggest issue is that it seems that all the woman in their 20s and even 30s never quit being 17 year old retards thriving off of attention.

no you're larping

I've never even held a girls hand

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>dating teenagers can be incredibly frustrating as most of them are fucking idiots and obsessed with the material
And this is not true of most older women as well?
>My biggest issue is that it seems that all the woman in their 20s and even 30s never quit being 17 year old retards thriving off of attention.
It has nothing to do with being 17, or even with being women, they just weren't raised right and/or are retards.

How the fuck?

how old brother? 22 in march here.

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Which is why the answer isnt to just date younger you silly bitch. Its to find the right woman. Which is difficult because every bar and gym and festival I go to seems to starkly lack such things. Which is the frustration we're brooding over.

I've never talked to a girl that wasn't working a cash register.

22 in January.

You need to stop being a pussy and make a move.

Tell her you want to cuddle in bed one night. Should work

Bros this is why you havent made it, you have to talk/go out and meet girls. Even if you are a 10/10, you have to still make moves. Dont expect it to just happen.

>Which is why the answer isnt to just date younger you silly bitch.
No, not just, but it's an aspect of the solution, you dimwit.
>Its to find the right woman
And the right woman isn't an old hag fresh off the cock carousel looking for a beta provider.
>Which is difficult because every bar and gym and festival I go to seems to starkly lack such things
No quality woman hangs out at the gym or bars.

Are you just brooding over the fact that you're dumb?

Where/what kind of moves? I dropped out of college but when I was there a couple ugly thots rubbed up against me at a party and I talked to a couple. Thats as far as I got though, still khhv.

>going into 2019 with tfwnogf for the first time in years
Feels bad

Those were moves, you jsut had to keep doing that. Find an attractive girl at a party and try to talk/dance with her.

Just talk to girls IRL and go to parties/bars

I've never tried to get a gf

Me neither... but girls would hold my hand in elementary school and middle school commonly
High school was rarer but it still happened a few times. Shit like PE class

Girls would also hug me in middle school hella

>divorce
>metoo
Women are people just like you and you are making the juvenile mistake of stereotyping people based off of garbage you see on the internet. You unironically have a warped view of the world amd need to get outside more. Don't just dismiss cause you hear it all the time. Actually stop and think about it for fucks sake. People post negativity and things that confirm their biases here. You likely spend too much time in echochambers with no real knowledge of how the actual world is

Alright fine.
>No, not just, but it's an aspect of the solution, you dimwit.
No, it isnt. A younger woman isn't even necessarily more likely to have kept herself anywhere near decent anymore. Sex is open to all ages and someone 17-20 is going to be in the thick of the thrill of a new experience. You goofy cunt.
>And the right woman isn't an old hag fresh off the cock carousel looking for a beta provider.
You aren't wrong, great insight.
>No quality woman hangs out at the gym or bars.
Again, no shit. Although i'll always keep my romantic notion that theres some healthy woman just trying to do right and stay in shape. Those are obviously not the primary places anyone goes looking for a decent woman.

But your focus on age is retarded. Age is not the primary solution. Girls are buffeted to become thots from all directions the second they can fill out a bra. If you want to go play chad and out compete people just getting out of high school to find some dipshit who sees you as her bank account, go wild. The actual solution is to find where decency is still valued.

Had to dump my gf, but I still want her
>Told her I would leave if her toxic sister and niece moved in (dont need toxic people near me). They did.
>I walk
>a month passes but we continue to text
>we meet up for a night and talk about getting back together
>She drops that she has been "dating" a few guys but "nothing serious yet"
>I say I will not get back together then. Its vile to me.
>she calls me self-centered and a complete asshole
Did I do wrong?

No is not youre fucking wrong younger girls look cute when they have a selfish childish rampage and they know they are wrong you can talk them out of it, but have you seen a 27yo woman having a selfish rampage and be cute or feeling like you could talk her out of it, theres this thing were most wife material girls get taken by an early age the rest of them are roastie garbage and thats what you getting when you wife up an older woman

i want to have sex two times just so i could speak more freely amongst my coworkers. i feel anything past 3 sentences they will know im a virgin this kills me, they can know how much of a sublime slug shit faggot i am but not my virginity

Hell no, shes already dating other guys... wtf? jsut hit that shit 1 more time then find a new girl

You know that you didn't.

Nah, she sounds like a cunt. Why the fuck did her sister and niece move in anyway? I assume it's her house? First mistake I guess.

>No, it isnt. A younger woman isn't even necessarily more likely to have kept herself anywhere near decent anymore
Categorically false.
>17-20
I said age gap of 10-15 years considering 30 to be the maximum age a man should be seeking to court a woman.
>Again, no shit.
Then why are you looking there, retard? You want to be alone.
>But your focus on age is retarded
It's an integral aspect of courtship that has been degraded and warped by modernists.
>Age is not the primary solution
No, it's an aspect of it.
>Girls are buffeted to become thots from all directions the second they can fill out a bra
The woman that is raised improperly will be shit at 14 and shit at 24. The virtuous woman will be virtuous at 14 and virtuous at 24(and 9/10 married by that age)
>The actual solution is to find where decency is still valued.
Yet you look in bars. Cheers.

No. Just no dude. I'd rather be with a person who has a decent understanding of philosophy and rationality rather than someone narrow minded and force-fed their beliefs.
>muh postmodernists
Actually learn a decent amount of philosophy and critical thinking and you will realize that meaning is only what is meant by something and that only humans can do that. Postmodernism is where you end up if you care about truth rather than deluding yourself. That isn't a bad thing.

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How many girls did you actually talk to? Did you try to get to know anyone on a personal or deeper level? Did you have any interesting conversations with people or help amyone through anything?
This isn't a hard problem guys, come on.

I wasnt living there, but was spending all our time together there. Her sister is a fuck up alcoholic and as trying to leave her even worse husband and kept ending up in the hospital because she wouldnt stop drinking loads of alcohol.

Loving the 2049 memes though

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Ok m8 im gonna redpill you right fucking now, women and men have different mindsets you cant even compare them for women having different partners is not bad thing their brains cant comprehend how and why would that bother you because if you did the same they wouldn't not be bothered by it they would want you more, so they see dating multiple people as a good thing where men see it as bad, theres not a right and wrong answer but dont pretend to change a woman mindset because you cant millions of year of nature evolved them to be that way, enjoy her and dump her that's the best course of action

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Learn to punctuate. Christ. Quality reply tho.

>22 khhv
>have given up and have accepted being alone for the rest of my life, never being loved
>recently tfw no gf is creeping up
How do I make it stop fit?

>Categorically false.
Where do you live where all the young ladies are just the fucking picture of virtue? There is very little media aimed at a young woman to be healthy and decent. It comes from the family and the community. Music, movies, rolemodels, and politics howl for female liberation and the shamelessness of their sex.
>I said age gap of 10-15 years considering 30 to be the maximum age a man should be seeking to court a woman.
Right so 15-20 then? High school and the early college days are definitely the peak of a woman's modesty. No one desperately trying to weasel into their cunts at that point.
>Then why are you looking there, retard? You want to be alone.
I don't look there, ive never said that that was where I looked. Ive brought up repeatedly that the women in bars I talk to mostly are trash. Not even flirting, just talking to.
>It's an integral aspect of courtship that has been degraded and warped by modernists.
Ideally perhaps? But that isnt the case in most places lad. You'd have to go where those values are still held. And in such a case you could also look for someone decent and old enough for you not to have to play daddy.

Feel free to report back with you're virtuous 14 year old.

You don't, you nigger, you go out there and find a qt and wife her up and have children.

You can do it user just stop wallowing in self pity and sorrow. You're still young. DO SOMETHING.