How did the Ancient Greeks get so big and ripped without barbells or whey powder?

They worked out and had weights and also a pretty active daily life.

ancient greeks fucked each other in the ass

They had the Olympics back then. They had professional athletes

Didn’t they row boats like 8 hours a day?

whey powder makes zero fucking difference, it's just food, and they had food.

they actually did train with weights.

This guy knows.

Incredibly physically fit humans were more common back then since so many professions required backbreaking physical labor.

All they ate were shit tons of carbs and did a shit ton of labor. They were probably huge for their height. Refined sugar did not exist.

by studying the muscles on the Jow Forums 5'5 or whatever men of the time and then extrapolating the proportions.

is it possible for you to type like a faggot even more
agreed though, t. Germanic ancestry

That's actually not a stupid response. Well-played.

I don't think it's correct, but it's not stupid.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bybon
now that the dust has settled, was it ancient estatting or did he one arm snatch 143kg?

youtu.be/-7aj31wWk6k
Maybe, if he was some sort of genetic freak like Andre the Giant.

they were manlets

Mateusz has done 150kg a few months ago.

But let's also remember Charles Rigoulot is purported to have one-hand-snatched 120kg @ 100kg naturally.

both these lifts aren't really competitive enough to really know where the limit is.

kek, imagine lifting 300lbs above your head with one arm and still getting mugged by 6'2 broad frame chad

ditmar is actually unmoggable

>dacians
>germanic

Pick one historylet

at least they got some ass

t. Vercingetorix

>sticking your dick is a dirty hairy place where shit literally spews out of
i'll just stick with jacking off

>Germanic auxiliaries with Suebian knots
>Dacian
Dumb romaboo
t.boyfucker

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>vercingetorix
>germanic

The statues are exaggerated.

They lifted stone with one dude who carried a baby cow daily while it grew up into a full sized cow

literally rowing for back, woodchopping for obliques/abs, arms from carrying stuff, test boost from fucking boys and all that while bulking on bread fish and milk.
Also most of the statues were athletes who did accessory stuff like push ups, pull ups, overhead press etc.

I know there was something I was watching and they talked about how they were always active whether it be from farming/ working and they were into competition. Their diet being a true med diet they ate alot of fish, olive and oilve oil, pita bread no sugar and lean meats

That's less likely than the greeks actually getting that big, fitness is not complicated and if you put in the effort you will get 90% of the gains you are going to get. All you need is to hit all of your muscles, eat enough, hell you don't even need a lot of protein and do a reasonable amount of volume. This is why those gymbros you see make as much gains as you do with your planned progression schemes and all that

The statues aren't exaggerated.

Imagine exercising for 20+ years with a good diet. Your body would look like that.

"Wrestling" and milk.

Yeah, go to cbt and you will see a lot of guys as big as hercules for example, just a lot fatter

This is great
Anymore Greek bodybuilders?

modern greeks fuck each other in the ass....

Socrates was not only ripped, he was FUCKING ripped. Pretty much every Greek philosopher, poet, tragedian, and so on would have been, because they were all adult male citizens, and either had to fight in the army or (later) row in the fleet. Or both.

People underestimate the level of physical exertion these things required. These guys worked out EVERY day. They worked out so much that they actually liked working out. They lived to work out. Their entire leisure time was composed of working out and getting gay over how hot their bods were in the balmy Mediterranean sun. The first ten fucking pages in Plato's FIRST dialogue have Socrates lusting over a teenager's sweaty, manly pecs through his toga. Socrates likens himself to a lion that is about to gobble up its prey. He can barely control himself. That is how the Western philosophical tradition starts: homoerotic lust for ripped abs. When Alcibiades, the manliest man in history, bursts into the famous drinking party, at which the guests are discussing the urbane topic of Love, it is to ask Socrates why he never fucked him in the ass when they cuddled. You know how the dialogue ends? Socrates goes to the gym and works out.

Modern recreations and reconstructions have not even succeeded in duplicating the physical feats reported of the Athenian soldiery - that is, the Athenian citizenry. Often, modern historians doubt that these feats are even being accurately reported, for instance the straight dash of the Athenian army across the entire field at Marathon. This is because modern athletes and bodybuilders can't even do these things, even with relatively light gear compared to what the Athenians actually carried. It took a team of Olympic master rowers to even APPROXIMATE the sailing techniques of the Athenian fleet, outside of combat conditions, on a placid sea. The entire Athenian fleet was regularly capable of these maneuvers, season after season, year after year, campaign after campaign. The sole engine of these maneuvers was muscle. Raw, sweaty, heaving Athenian muscle. Athenian men were the envy of the Aegean.

It is understandable that modern historians, coming from a society of flabby, skinnyfat wimps, are unable to comprehend the sheer manliness of Athens. Socrates saved Alciabiades in a hoplite battle in the Peloponnesian War. Aeschylus, the tragic poet, fought at Marathon. And all of them worked out and fucked ass, at every moment they weren't literally inventing Western civilisation.

Lol which texts are these from? I need the source material

I would imagine that the models for such statues were olympians or gladiators or something.

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Plato's republic and Symposium
the Athens elite were all about fucking young men

roiding for this
>dicklet

Then how did they know the correct proportions you fucking moron

because their profession involved literally a lifetime of studying and reproducing the human form ??? imagine being this dumb and calling someone else a moron

The ancient greeks actuall invented barbells ans dumbell workouts. This science was desteoyed by the virgin christcucks and was later rediscovered during the renaissance.

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They ate well (quite a decent amount of meat and fish) and some of them dedicated their whole day to physical exercise. Not the philosophers, the artists or the government workers, but the soldiers and athletes had no other job than to train their body the whole day, every day.

The "soldiers" were just citizens pressed in to service in times of war. Wartime would be the only time they "trained" but even then probably only in phalanx tactics and not physical body training.

olive oil + compulsory military service +

Depends when we're talking. After 400BC or so actual formalised training and state-issued equipment became pretty common in Greece.

>he doesnt know about healthy bowel movements

Wrestling, ate more meat than us, didn't live in a time period in which multiple factors worked together to lower testoserone, etc. The "statues were idealized" claim is such a cop out. These people are implying that Greek artists had never seen a ripped dude and came up with the proportions themselves.

Germanics destroyed Rome, not the Greeks. Sounds like the Germanics were pretty much niggers to the Romans.

They never got so "ripped". They had muscle and even then understood that in training there should be a progression of a sort. Most of the philosophers, after their duty in army exercised daily.

Philosophers* After their duty in the army, they had slaves that worked for them so all they did was think and exercise.

Why isn't this a common picture in gyms?

/thread

based, redpilled, this, and /thread

This was a time where if you were born a weak faggot you were either given to the wolves as an infant or died anyway by a cold or something at 6yo. People were high test, worked hard manual labor their entire lives and couldn't eat crap food because it barely existed.

Most of all they were manlets. Combine those factors and you get a bunch of swole lil niggas

Lentils+Gymnasium. Notice the extremely developed core and lack of a v-taper. Guys probably followed a high volume powerlifting routine combined with various athletic disciplines.

El americano

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You dumb mother fucker

There’ll be posts in the future with pics/holo vids of thugs/illegal immigrants in Europe/America looting stores with people descending from them claiming to be superior lol

why aren't you huge then?

You don't need whey to get big. Just eat more chicken.

>picture of Alexander the Great
>who was described as blonde with one blue and one black eye
Didn't think that one through

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milo_of_Croton

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>His daily diet allegedly consisted of 9 kg (20 lbs) of meat, 9 kg (20 lbs) of bread, and 10 litres (18 pt) of wine.

What

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High metabolism

how did they do it without steroids is a better question

They literally ate all organic agricultural produce and live stock, drank rich mineral water free of female hormones, lived and worked a healthy life style dictated by circadian rhythm and the sun.
They din't need steroids, they were high test.
Our grand fathers had higher median testosterone values than we do today.

Testosterone deficiency: a historical perspective
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3955324/

Changes in Male Testosterone Levels over the Last Century
>avensonline.org/wp-content/uploads/JAG-2332-3442-01-0003.pdf

Men's testosterone levels declined in last 20 years
> uk.reuters.com/article/health-testosterone-levels-dc-idUKKIM16976320061101

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Proof that modern bloatlord is descendant of Milo

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I love this new pasta

The original bloatlord

>Socrates pasta
>new
WE LOVE FORTNITE WE LOVE FORTNITE i hate school also my mom and dad SUCK!

Shut up nigger

this (classics major here)

Do your homework and stay in school. No drugs either bud!

because that was their job you fucking dumb american faggot

Pentathlon and swinging around halteres (light dumbells). We have no clue about training plans and regimes, but we know they already had periodization, specific strength training, vegans vs keto vs low fat vs meat only arguments, etc.

gay sex with weighted socks/belts

Are you two illiterate 3rd worlders? Read his post and the post he replied to.

Looking at way leaner dudes with musculature showing then looking at bulky guys who were fat and putting the two together

this is FACT

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Massive fucking history geek and Greek here.

Ancient Greek culture revolved around physical prowess and everything was basically manual labor with the added fact that they worked out with rocks and had barbells literally made out if stuffed bronze. However, the main contribution to those physiques was the nutrition they had. Some parts practiced a form of keto where they would eat once in the afternoon and it was a big meal such as pork with oranges, greens and an extreme amount of carbs from their whole wheat foods as well as pure olive oil that is pretty much magical. Other parts of Greece shared the nutrition but did not follow the 1 meal a day. Do keep in mind that Greeks were not huge. They were incredibly lean and strong. Being even slightly overweight was something you would never see because those people simply fucking died due to the abuse. Now if you go into warriors and fighters, they were actually pretty small in comparison to the athletes because they were purposefully deprived of food, rest and their training was beating the fuck out of each other and lots of cardio.

>Being even slightly overweight was something you would never see because those people simply fucking died due to the abuse.

What do you mean? Were they pelted with rocks in public or something?

could you imagine that happening today lmao

Lol. No.

American education much? Barbells were invented in the 19th century for example. The rest is also bullshit.

70% of Americans would be fucking dead

It varied on the part if Greece. Spartans who somehow managed to be a little overweight, which was impossible due to the lifestyle, were pretty much beaten to death or bullied to death. For other parts those people mainly died on their own because they couldn't keep up with the workloads, became poor and or died of starvation and sickness. Royalty that was overweight were not recognized as true authority figures and eventually overthrown or disowned by their families. Ancient Greeks believed the discipline, work ethic, value and intellect of a man was depicted directly on their physique. Hence why people mention Socrates sounding pretty gay. They admired a man with a good physique. Fun fact, Ancient Greeks believed a very large penis was a sign of stupidity which is why the statues all looked like they came out of a cold shower.

These Romans are crazy.

> Socrates lusting over a teenager's sweaty, manly pecs through his toga
Wasn't Socrates executed because he was corrupting Athenian teenagers?

This.

I went through Homer/Suetonis et al years ago and noted mentions of eye/hair color in notable Greeks/Roman Emperors. Most were blond or fair haired with pale eyes.