Please train your abs with isolation

hi. Im making this thread to help anybody new to lifting to not make the same mistake as me. I never did ab isolation because I fell for the "compounds are enough" meme. Only recently have I Incorporated dedicated ab isolation and a number of things have happened thus far:

1. My abs are bigger at the same bf%
2. My cardio has improved
3. My work capacity on compounds has improved
4. My breathing and bracing has improved
5. My posture has improved
6. All compound lifts have gone up

I wish I started doing ab isolation my first day. I am finding that it is arguably THE most important muscle to train if you are dedicated to lifting. Please do not fall for the same mistake as me. This board is shit, do the opposite of what they say. Start your ab isolation today and never stop. You will thank me in the future

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I actually had a related question. I was reading the guide in the sticky and noticed it just solidly mentions cardio and weight lifting and I'm thinking wtf where does core exercise come into this. I do some stuff kettle bells and medicine balls and didn't see any mention of something similar and thought "so do I only need to lift to lose weight then?"

What ab isolation do you prefer user

titfucking until failure

Ab exercises kill my lower back to the point I’m afraid of continue doing them i fear of causing chronic damage. Gonna buy an ab roller and a resistance bank and do some of Jeff’s autistic ab workouts with them since they probably won’t hurt me as much as crunches and sit-ups. Is there anything else I can do to train abs? Is there any method to alleviate the pain I feel after doing traditional ab exercises?

Holy shit why am I typing like a pajeet. I meant resistance band not fucking resistance bank

that you op in the pic? yes you could use more ab work but you look pretty good
maybe lose a little bit of weight

BMI lies for women it says I'm underweight but I look good and I have visible abs

Is this bait

if your abs are weak you will get lower back pain as your back will try to compensate. Find some other means of training your core with less load. Some gyms have a weighted crunch machine, use it

any routines you can recommend then ?

>go to resistance bank
>try to withdraw money
>ATM grip is stronger than mine and it pulls the money back when I try to take it

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A+

rip sides

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im just returning the faver of good adivce why would it be bait

kek

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Is it true you should lose fat before doing abs ? I do insanity 3-4 times a week but still have a flabby belly so have avoided sit ups and shit because I worry it will push my flab forward and look worse.

That's bullshit, don't worry about that. You're gonna lose that fat anyways, it's dumb to hold yourself back. Also your abs won't get huge like a roid gut, if anything they'll just become more visible under the fat, and that's good.

The only reason you'd need to lose fat before doing abs is if you're horrendously, grossly obese to the point where your stomach makes it so you literally can't even do the movements. Otherwise abs are just muscles that grow like everything else. Even if you're still too fat for them to show, they're still getting bigger when you work them. Just make sure you're actually doing them right. Like if you're gonna do crunches, make sure you actually get spinal flexion.

In fact, have some Jeff:

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solid giggle

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sorry man abs are way too boring to train

Will I be able to do traditional ab exercises pain-free after sufficiently strengthening my core?

kek

do leg raises. start slow and increase volume as it gets easier. GOAT ab exercise

Forgot to mention that I read that a lot of people in the military end up with back and disc problems with chronic pain from all the sit-ups. Apparently it's done improperly so that the lower back carries the load like you said. Does that happen because their cores are too weak to handle sit-ups? How would one go about fixing this? I'd really like to train abs and I saw great results from the short time I spent doing them but I'd really like to do it in a way where I don't put my health at risk.

i completely agree
I used to just do compounds and have recently incorperated cable crunches and the gains are insane

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I do at least some ab isolation at the end of every workout. I honestly don't know why people don't other than they just don't feel like doing it.

What if you can barely do a single leg raise with straight legs? I've done them but with my knees only. Is that a meme or a legit way to prepare for straight legs?

Planks, flutter kicks, twists, leg raises

It's probably because most of the military is fat and out of shape, I was in, half the cunts in there were fat, most of the only really in shape dudes rangers, seals, SF, etc, fat people running around with rucksacks are gonna have health issues

Leg raises, 8 shapes and such on the pullup bar. I usually combine close grip chinups with leg raises at the end.

Ouch, that face is rough. What is she, 35?

>The only reason you'd need to lose fat before doing abs is if you're horrendously, grossly obese to the point where your stomach makes it so you literally can't even do the movements.

this shouldn't be understated, obesity can cause the muscles to be stretched and weakened

How can i train the right side especially. The left one seems to big + i have pain on the left portion when i work on the abs or others muscles

That's actually another good point that I didn't even put in the post you replied to. I was going at it from purely a mass perspective, but you're on point there, as well.

lol

Nice meme. Planks are the best exercise you can do for your abs. BTW no one wants the deformed tumor looking abs, you want washboard

audibly kekked at work. good job user

Hahaha right

captain's chair knee raises
then leg
then hanging
then windshield wipers

also, you have to engage lats/scapula to avoid swinging. watch memethlean-x clips on that

What ab isolations do you do exactly?

What? Shes cute af, ur a fuckin fag

Not bad user

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Loving
Every
Laugh

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Nope, I just have standards. Also it looks like she probably has a bellybutton piercing, which is fucking degenerate and stupid. So she's a 35 year old trash whore who wants to pretend to be hip and cute.

Zero interest.

lmao faggot

Kek

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If you're still here user, do it laying down. Bend your knees a little to make it easier.

>not doing a combat sport for cardio and ab gains

you're probably doing crunches wrong, doing crunches combined with planks and stretches (piriformis) is a saviour for people with lower back pain

>No connection between ribcage and legs, abs work as you move pelvis relatively to ribcage.
>Leg raises for abs
>ishygddt

>turn 360 degrees and farmers walk away

Good tip user, and thanks for the babe

It's not from the situps, it's from carrying around a ridiculous amount of weight in your pack/body armor

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What exercises should I do
How long should I do isolation before beginning my slow cut.

I dont wanna do them at the gym cause of them look gay
Are ab wheel rollouts/planks enough to do at home?

>afraid of looking gay
>on Jow Forums
leave

WHAT EXERCISE SHOULD WE DO NIGGER

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jesus my sides

Yeah, that’s gonna have to be a lonely and horny post from me, dawg

Get a load of this guy

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Pallof press. Leg-hip raise.

Can you do abs everyday?

>tfw too lazy to do abs properly so just do one plank at the end of each workout till exhaustion
am i gonna make it?

standing ab wheel rollouts and hanging bicicles are the fucking shit for core. You need to strengthen it if you don't wanna fuck up your spine. Do them

Yes

>can
Actually you must.

Got a spinal injury not allowed to do planks, crunches etc. any ideas

Leg raises. Patrician way to target abs without stressing the hell out of your back.

So nothing then.

How the fuck can you not do a single leg raise if you are not paralyzed from the waist down? Babies can do leg raises. Fat fucks can do leg raises.

Am I doing it right?

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Also GOAT planks are key - here’s my own version - seeing massive gains and cuts simultaneously

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That thing is going to kick you in the cooter

have my lame ss

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Do this: superset leg raise with cable crunches

5x15

You're a fucking idiot

>lying on the internet

You are either retarded or you're lying. Compunds hit the abs.

needed this today, thank you user

Dont worry about programming ab work too much. Pick a movement and just do a tabata at the end of your workout. Easy, simple to complete and challenging enough.

This this is how you get memes.

Agreed. Compound lifts will give you girl abs and look like shit. Only exception I would say is if you are doing front squats with 3+ pl8s for reps then that's ok. All other compound movements are useless for abs

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Start with planks bird dogs pallof pressesThey will not aggravate anything you might have.

Is the crunch machine good?
I hate ab crunches with holding a plate
And Id prefer to not do rope cable crunches so Im doing the ab crunch mahine + diagonal crunches + leg raises for my ab workout

You only need 3xF fork putdowns to lose weight

>"abs are made in the kitchen"
>"guys I can't even lift a single leg"
Lmao faggots.

You having a stroke m8?

this is all the ab workout i needed kek

who dis?