How high should you let your body fat get during a bulk before you start cutting again?

t. skinny fuck

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If you are high test even if you have high bodyfat you will still have prominent face features

Just lift and stop caring, the only important thing is your soul, take care of that user

Bulk to 15%, cut to 10% is the meme. Eric Helms argues that there's no interference with building muscle up to around 20%, but after that you can become insulin resistant, plus excess body fat can cause your test to drop and your estrogen to rise.

based and common sense pilled

Jeff has some good vids on this subject
here is one of them youtube.com/watch?v=Fv5xEYhvj4Q

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People don't come here for help when they're high test. Assume the people you're talking to are sub average and trying to improve.

hell no. i fell for the bulking meme and got fat.
worst mistake of my life.

post lifts

I just eat ice cream post and pre workout with eggs and fast on my rest days

it works for me

this is the advice you would get from every dyel twink in the gym who never puts on weight or strength, then wonders why they arnt gaining strength. "B-but i dont want to lose my precious six-pack!" Have fun staying small then. Unless your roiding in which case do whatever you want

>never puts on weight or strength
see watch like the first 3 min of that vid. Jeff demolishes that argument

not the same user, but do you care more about looks (ie being lean) or a number ?

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Sweet spot for bulk gains without doing enough damage that it’s too hard to reverse is 17%.

Get a caliper, don’t trust electro scales. 17% for bulk and 12% for cut and you’ll always look decent without shocking your body.

Post body

Eating like 2-3 hundred cals above maintenence is ideal bulk right? As in ill get bigger and gain minimal fat?

should be good. I'd say just make sure most of those calories come from protein rather than carbs

Should note that Jeff is on roids, so if you wanna look like him time to get over your fear of needles or at least TRT patches.

Bulk to 14-15%, cut to 8-10%
i.e. stay lean but at surplus and do a quick cut for a month maybe once or twice a year if you need to

bulk 3-6 months
do water fast for 2-3 weeks and lose the excess fat while maintaining your gains

been doing it for 2 years now

Does that really works?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA MANLETS BTFO AT 0:42

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I can see my abs fine but my scale says I'm 28% what do?

Watch this

he isn't on either of those

>t. Skelly soi cūck

Nope. That's why he doesn't post pics

I'd love to be this naive. The guy is almost fucking 50

Just eat at 200-300 above maintenance for months and you'll only gain a couple of percentage points of bodyfat you can lose in like a month and you'll be bigger than when you started

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Never go over 20%. Unless you want to cut for fucking 6 months or more just to reach 15.

Good fucking God what the fuck has happened to this place? What is next, spot reduction?

you shouldn't care about body fat %. bulk until you get enough muscle/strength