Is it possible for the brain to make a full recovery from something like say, 10 years of deep depression?

consume a large quantity of mushrooms

Back to Jow Forums. When I read this I just pictured a fat retard that doesn't even lift. fuck off edgy cunt

Lmao I'm saving this

>shrooms
Nah, the new trend is ayuhuasca retreats

based weeb btfoing user

t. low-achiever basedboys

based and redpilled

It's mainly due to anger
The thought of my stiff corpse curled up on the carpet and all of the people who wronged me getting off scott free was always my primary motivator

so you're in muh depression cuz you got bullied?

if it's really 10 years then it's your own fault even if you got a shit life

also isn't being emo just part of your personality at this point?

Le epic revenge on muh tormentors xP

No but it didn't help. The bullying I got when I was young pales in comparison to what I got as an adult anyways.
>also isn't being emo just part of your personality at this point?
Yeah I was questioning that too

so you're like bad at everything and a slow learner?

what makes people want to fuck with you?

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No but I was alienated. Very few people are going to flat out fuck with a 200lb+ man thats been lifting for 3 years straight.

I believe so. The brain is an amazing thing, you can even live without half of your brain.

there's always a reason , why exactly were you alienated?

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Edgy.

Because he's a 200lb+ fat fuck who reeks

if you lift for 3 years 200lbs doesn't really mean you're phat

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I hung out with one of you fuckers last night and it was the most insufferable shit.

>oh man this would be so cool high
>dude we should do SHROOMS
>dude i feel like shrooms is great for putting my life into perspective
>dude every shrooms trip has just totally changed my outlook man
>dude those WAVES would look GNARLY on SHROOMS
>dude you want some of this weed (no, for the thousandth time, I don't smoke)

Anyway as for depression I'm kind of under the impression that the best way out is a kind of sv3rige-like route. Don't go raw meat if you don't want to, but his basic principle is sound. Eat a natural diet, turn off the computer+phone, stop working 9-5 and worrying about your "sleep schedule", don't kid yourself into thinking coffee is natural, and bonus points if you talk to a girl sometime.

based buckoposter

you forgot about no-fap
ha ha probably all meme life choices now

Not trying to highjack your thread with a blogpost but I feel like shit. I inherited pretty serious bipolar disorder and was put on meds. The med is an antipsychotic used to treat mania but it's also used to treat autistics with violent anger issues so it really fucks up with everything test related like healthy aggression and drive. It's like the opposite of roids. I started drinking heavily and couldn't be bothered lifting anymore because the meds made me weak as shit and it was extremely demotivating seeing maxes just suddenly dropping. I just couldn't finish my reps anymore. Ultimately went from benching 2pl8 for reps to benching 0.5 pl8 for reps. Where can I find that drive and pump to lift again? Any good supplements that'll get me going mentally? Going off the meds isn't really an option but they turned me into a soft faggot. I lost all the edge.

>eating whole foods
>not eating non-whole foods
>not wagecucking
>not browsing Jow Forums and crying
>memes

People on this iranian soup forum will rationalize anything

Yeah, but he's whining on Jow Forums about being excluded. Do you really think he lifts?

Based anger motivator poster.

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If you dont:

>Overconsume sugar
>Overconsume porn/masturbation
>Overconsume fastfood
>Overconsume games/anime/whatever
>Overconsume alchohol or drugs

And do:

>Work out regularly
>Sleep properly
>Eat a balanced diet
>Spend your days productively
>Maintain healthy relations with friends and family

Theres no fucking way you can be depressed unless youre a huge pussy

You can't just make friends as easily as those other things

Yes, yes and yes.

Two more things:
>Take a NGF such as Lion's mane mushroom
>Increase neuroplasticity through DualnBack

>friends
..

+1

How the hell can you even end up with no friends? Even the biggest loser betas in highschool had friends.

This, no exceptions

I grew up in a rural town where having a car was a big part of your ability to socialize. I had friends at school but once it was time to go home that was it. I did eventually get a car but it was too late to make lasting connections and once graduation happened my social status evaporated to nothing.

Id just try reconnecting with those people. If they were your friends Im sure theyll be happy to see you again

unequivocally based

>>Maintain healthy relations with friends and family

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based and redpilled

Whats so funny about it? Try it for once instead of thinking youre some kind of special snowflake that nobody understands.

That was like 11+ years ago they've either forgotten me or gotten married and live totally different lives

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You spent 11 years without friends? Damn dude thats bad. Yeah reconnecting is probably no option then. Its about time you start trying to make some new friends then bro. Its not healthy to isolate yourself.

Try getting into a hobby or teamsport. Or possibly through a job / study. Good luck and remember your happiness is in your own hands.

Tons of people have shitty families that aren't worth talking to. You get to choose your friends on the other hand so no excuse there.

Eat collagen

Just talk to whoever you find interesting. If you’re a spastic the only way to get over it is to talk to people.

Isn't this like the new reddit mom meme?

Yes you can retard

Absolutely. I suffered from severe chronic depression since early childhood. By my late teens I was afraid that I would never be able to have a normal life. I had tried numerous different medications and therapists with no change. At the end of my rope I decided to try an in-patient program and it turned my life around. At this point a few years after it’s hard to understand my own thought process back then. I can say with absolute honesty that I feel happy and fulfilled. So yes OP, if you find what works for you and make the changes necessary for you, a full recovery is possible.

Can you explain what that is and what they did

Because most depressed people don’t want to die, they want to be happy. Death is just what comes to be seen as the only way for the pain to stop, once they come to believe their happiness is impossible.
Get blood work done. Without that who knows what supplements you’ll need. Second, go to the gym today and lift as hard as you can. The longer you put it off the more you’ll look back and say, if I had only started earlier. Third, stop or limit your drinking. Alcohol is a depressant and only making you feel worse long term. Fourth, find someone irl to talk to, therapist, priest, friend, sewing circle, who will hold support you but also keep you accountable(you’re less likely to skip the gym if you know someone will ask if you went or, better yet, goes with you).

If you’re raised in an unhealthy or abusive family/environment it often gives incorrect lessons on human interaction. It’s like trying to navigate with the Wong map. I had to basically relearn social interaction as an adult to have normal relationships.

Sure. An in patient facility has the patients living their for a period of time. Depending on where you go treatment plans vary, so I can only speak for The Meadows. They take all electronics and you’re basically in different forms of therapy all day, both group and individual. Most were there for addiction but the underlying cause is almost always psychological, so for the first time in my life I was with people who understood on a personal level what I was going through. I was medically examined and my vitamin D levels were found to be in the single digits which was deeply affecting my mood and testosterone. They also basically got me to deep dive my past and realize what baggage I was carrying and how my way of living was harmful to myself. Then they taught how normal healthy people interact with each other. After 45 days I left a new man. Hope that answers your question.

>Note: Hell.

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You're in the right place, Jow Forums can help. 30min running 6day/week was found equally effective to an anti-depressant. I think it was Prozac.

No.
Sorry.
If I knew, i'd not be half sane and desperately chasing new dopamine release strategies even now.

>dad was legit autistic
>learn that everyone's an asshole, everything that everyone says is bullshit, friends are overrated, networking is important, don't do anything weird (including math) if you want to make people like you
>mfw I grow up and realize he had zero friends. fucking zero. when he got sick a guy from his medical school called me one time because we share the same name but that was it.

Does not work unless your reason for the depression is purely chemical.
I've been depressed for 15+ years and it just gets worse even after trying common "solutions" like working out, eating healthy, taking shrooms etc. Sure, lifting weights, doing martial arts etc makes me feel good while I'm doing it. But it doesn't even keep me in a good mood throuout the rest of the day, and on bad days it doesn't even help while training. Same thing with shrooms. Sure, while you're high you feel like you're the greatest person that ever lived, and in fact the only person that even exists at all. But unless you are planning on doing shrooms every week, then it doesn't help. Also, if you take a high enough dose you realize that you are fucking trapped in an eternal cycle of death and rebirth and you will never be happy because you keep forgetting every time you die and make the same mistakes every time.

It's because you have unreasonable expectations of live and a skewed metric of what "happiness" actually is, most likely due to your history of drug abuse.

That's because on some level you see what you think of as depression as your default state.

You only use those strategies as temporary breaks or as a way to solidify your belief that you are depressed and nothing can fix it.

There is nothing wrong with having a dour mood as your goto mental state. But for many this can break them or turn their lives toward a bad path.

>history of drug abuse.
I tried weed once when I was a teenager. Didn't think it was that great, never tried it again. Didn't try shrooms until I was in my early 30's.
I don't have a skewed metric. I just have nothing going for me at all. I really have no redeeming qualities. Only reason why I have not killed myself is because I failed twice and after taking shrooms I saw what was waiting for me after death and suddenly I didn't really feel like dying anymore.

>You fail at everything you've ever tried
>Nobody likes you
>Girls hate you
>Stuck in a dead end job with low pay
>No skills
>To stupid to learn useable skills
Lol you're not depressed you just think you are, Dr. Phil said so!

Damn I don't see me being able to get 45 days off of work, especially for that reason.

Being depressed won't help you in that situation.
It will litterally make everything in your life worse.

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I did this and the depression went away but it was replaced with an anxiety disorder for like 4 months, probably because I had a bad trip alone. Never had anxiety in my life before that. Then eventually that went away too. But I still can't smoke weed anymore or else the anxiety comes back.

thank you dr. Jow Forums

Oh, I never thought of that! I guess I should just stop being depressed. Thanks doc.

Depression makes it pretty much impossible to do those things you recommend. Whenever someone says they cured their depression doing that, in reality their depression was already improving on its own to the level of being able to do those things.

damn how is this not a pasta

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it is now

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If you dont:
>Overconsume sugar
Only eath healthy sugars apart from the rare occational chocolate bar.
>Overconsume porn/masturbation
Pretty much only during weekends
>Overconsume fastfood
Never eat it.
>Overconsume games/anime/whatever
Don't have time to even if I want.
>Overconsume alchohol or drugs

And do:
>Work out regularly
13 hours a week
>Sleep properly
Sadly I don't have time unless I skip workout or come late to work.
>Eat a balanced diet
Check
>Spend your days productively
If you consider spending 2 hours a day sitting on the bus to get to work, doing hard labor in a low paying job and working out productive, then sure.
>Maintain healthy relations with friends and family
Riiiight. I meet friends maybe once a month, family maybe every other moth or so. None of them, neither friends nor family have anything interesting to say. And seeing them all happy with a spouse and children while I will die alone, lonely and poor doesn't really help.

I know sleep is extremely important but I can't seem to get it under fucking control. I sleep 8 hours every night and more on the weekends and whenever I can fit in an extra hour or 2. When I sleep 8 hours I wake up exhausted and feeling like shit all day. Sleep 10 hours and I feel less exhausted but still obviously not well rested. This has been going on for 4 years now and I've gotten blood work and a sleep study done and it's all come back good. My doctor suggested it's depression and that I should get on depression meds but I don't know. I work out, try to develop new skills, listen to lots of books and podcast to Introduce myself to new ideas and i wouldn't say my depression has gotten much worse and I'm not even suicidal. In fact, most of my bad feelings are from always fucking feeling exhausted.

What can I do bros?? I've heard some stuff about hypersomnia. Is it possible I have that?

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Not every program is that long. And it’s not necessarily right for everyone. That was just the one I did that worked for me.

Sleep is different from person to person so it's hard to tell. Myself, I sleep 6 hours durnig week days because I literally don't have time for more. During weekends I sleep 8-10 hours.
I do feel tired most of the time, but I do have enough energy to work out and go to job. And There was a time when I had a healthy sleep schedule, but my depression wasn't any better at that time.