So I have an osteopath appointment with this qt that works at my gym...

So I have an osteopath appointment with this qt that works at my gym. She's not fully certified yet so I'd have to pay with cash. But I was thinking of asking her out at the end of it. Try saying something like "how about I take you out to dinner at a fancy restaurant instead" when she asks me to pay her. I thought that'd be very smooth but I'm not a Chad. She works on Chad's all the time and I'm not even sure if she's single but I'm gonna try anyway. Can Chad's pull that off or should I just pay her normally but still ask her out? And this is gonna be the first girl that I have ever ask out irl so far. Video unrelated

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>still not asking for it

IMAGINE THE SMELL

>"how about I take you out to dinner at a fancy restaurant instead"

cringe

I say go for it if you have an engaging conversation during your uhh appointment. Otherwise no that would be weird. Also if you do, make it super casual

"How about I take you out to dinner at a fancy resteraunt instead"
Literally never say this, ever. For the love of god OP. I can elaborate if you'd like some more nuance, but if you ask something like that it should be more along the lines of "let's get dinner".

op that is an extraordinary terrible way to do that, but you should do it anyway just to see how it feels to watch a woman turn to stone in front of you. it will be a great learning experience.

Please elaborate then, what's so bad about it?

I'm willing to bet she doesn't want a dinner with some random loser in lieu of rent money.

This, you have to both pay for the appointment (because it's her work) and then separately ask about dinner (because that's her social life). She'll see it as you trying to take advantage of her by cheating her out of her work money if you attempt to combine them.

Very true. Just ask for her number faggot OP. Good God OP really sucked the dick on this thread.

Just a prank bro

please listen to this, OP.

why did you ever think that was a good idea in the first place?

I am sure if she wanted to mix business with pleasure, she already would have. There are other women. Don't do this thing. Women I know in this line of work often complain about this kind of behaviour

Hey, I really enjoyed our conversation/whatever. Wanna hang around some day? Have a drink or something? I enjoy talking to you. That kind of stuff OP. Don't be too cringy.

don't be such a fucking incel. if you want to ask someone out that's the most retarded way you could do it. let her check out your ass warts and pay her what's due. don't drop your spaghetti and keep it chill. you can ask her out some other time after that, she already knows you and it's more likely she won't cringe by the amount of beta vibes flowing out of your flobby anus.

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Talk to her about restraunts in the area and coffee places in a friendly yet detached manner, like you' would discuss the weather or her shoes.
Then talk about what she's doing later in a way that's not probing. Just let her talk about herself while you're training with her.
If she's not busy or says or indicates that she's alone then tell her that you'll take her for something to eat later, your treat.
Don't ask just tell her.

If she is busy then ask her out.
Convince her that you're spoiling her and it will be fun.

>How about
Thats a question, never ask. It should be a suggestion as if you already have plans.
>A fancy resteraunt
This will come off as trying too hard to woo her. Women are retarded, you can know exactly what she wants and give it to her but if you tell her thats what she wants she'll deny it and reject it. If its more casual you are more aloof. "Nice guys finish last" is real. Being a good man isn't the same as being a nice guy though, a lot of NEETs don't understand that and end up on Jow Forums just seething at the thought of a woman.

I stated in the OP I've never asked a girl out before, I envisioned it all turning out good though

>I envisioned it all turning out good though
seriously, user? seriously?

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just talk to her like a normal person you fucking autist. have a normal conversation and if something comes up that you can use as an excuse to take her out thats when you ask her. if you come out of nowhere with dinner plans and she says no its going to be awkward and she'll look at you like the creep you are

God speed user, but remember its a numbers game. You'll get a lot more 'No's than 'Yes's. Don't take it hard, leave it behind you.

>"how about I take you out to dinner at a fancy restaurant instead"

just tell her you love her while youre at it

This x9001

>I stated in the OP I've never asked a girl out before, I envisioned it all turning out good though
t.

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Just ask her for a handjob and see what happens after that

Put me in the screencap

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Man why am i so addicted to pussy im such a degenerate

Of all the fucking places in the gym, she chooses to do her meme ass stretches right in the way of the mirrors and dbs? At this point she might as well just lie there naked slapping her vulva, like an ape.

Haha, yeah that would be totally annoying, like I would totally be upset about this happening while I'm working out haha

OP, in seriousness you should not be asking Jow Forums for help asking girls out. It'll psyche you out and fuck up your expectations of how women and men interact with each other.

Having said that, other posters are right that you can't try to buy her dinner in lieu of satisfying a business debt.

>that couple working out together in the mirror
Fuck I'm so lonely

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I'm already getting nervous and am thinking of cancelling the appointment, I've never been alone in a room with a girl before I'm already getting extremely anxious I don't know what the fuck I'll talk about

Even this is too far desu

There is no real way this can work and is the work of autism of the brain

Be calm, you don't have to talk about anything. Its not a date its a job, she might as well be changing your oil. You have no responsibility in the situation other than to compensate her for her services, you've got nothing to worry about.

Dunno, for me it worked pretty well. But in the end. If she likes you, pretty much everything will work.

I used to be obsessed with girls assholes and farts and braps and stuff like that. I think mostly because of this place that started it.

Then one day I was at starbucks and they only have one restroom and I waited and this really hot girl went in to pee. But she was in for a long time. The entire time I am imaging her perfect ass shitting. So of course when she came out she had her head down and just scurried off. I jumped up to go in and tried to act natrual.
I had planned to try to masterbate to the smell and image but O MY GOD it was terrible. The smell wasnt arousing at all. I tried to get hard but literally couldnt. So I just peed and left.
That ended my brap craze.

If I was FORCED to navigate this situation I would finish up normally go to hand her the notes (money) quickly snap it back a little and VERY casually/ jokily ask her if she would like to go to dinner instead the least autistic way possible , its a hyper retarded fantasy OP

Copypasta or real memory that keeps you awake at night

name?

what the fuck?

t. achmed and/or elliot

OP do this and report just for a laugh

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fuck no dotn say the restaurant thing. you can ask her out at the end and be prepared she says no. safe way would be asking if she is single first, if she says no bullet dodged.

A DO works at your gym? WTF?

Holy shit this is my gym.
I believe I see this girl frequently. She's a natural redhead and dresses like a total stripper to do meme butt exercises for hours on end.

If not we got some doppelgangers going on

wrong.

Like a lot of others said, this is autistic for several reasons:
>cheating her out of agreement
>actually saying "fancy restaurant" for first date, demonstrating shallow autism and desperation
>asking in a beta manner that also demonstrates a lack of confidence

Instead, try to get her interested in you during this appointment. Ask her about herself mainly. Tease her slightly in very innocent ways if you can. Make her laugh. Disarm her. Don't talk about yourself unless she asks, keep her talking about herself. If you get the opportunity, tell her entertaining stories that demonstrate your potential values (after learning what she might value from asking about her) if you have the opportunity, just don't be a fucking autist about it, and always keep the conversation about her.

Then, after paying her, if she seems to have had a good time with you, then ask her out. But do so, like other anons said, in an aloof manner. An excellent example is how the main guy asks out that whore in office space. Make it obvious that you are content and secure with or without her, but make it clear you are interested and enjoy her company. Don't be desperate, but don't be too cocky either.

Here's an example:
"I really enjoyed our conversation, but it looks like we're out of time. Let's get lunch some time and pick up where we left off. Have you ever been to a revolving sushi bar?"

This accomplishes several things:
>It makes it pretty clear you are interested in her, since you should have been letting her talk about herself the whole time.
>"Let's get lunch" is taking the lead with a suggestion instead of asking her permission, demonstrating a casual confidence
>the novelty of something like a revolving sushi bar will likely pique her interest, women love dumb novelty shit like this
>the question shifts her focus to the novel experience which she'll be more inclined to accept without overthinking it

Out of characters, good luck bro.

He's how it should go

"Hey, slut, thanks for working on my body, yeah you like that? There's more of that in store for you tonight, as long as you're not too pussy? What's that? Oh my bad, I thought someone was taking a shower, didn't realize you're leaking this bad. Here, if you're ovaries are feeling a little too intact tonight, meet me at Dorsia, I'll phone in a reservation whenever. Don't even think about looking at me as I walk away."

why? its easy dodge for both.

>Osteopathy
Good luck with that meme bro

You are a fucking retard and already blew it

dont offer her shitty dinner instead of payment for her job user

take me to dinner instead.

You're an idiot.
"Hey how would you like if I didn't give you money you've been expecting, and instead you did more for me?"
Pay her AND ask her out, stupid.

if you never try you will never fail
if you never fail you will never learn
if you never learn you will never win

not only is this going to be friggin awkward for you, she is also going to think you are a dork. She is trying to earn money. Offering a date is not equal to getting paid.

I know it's a meme but I'm only doing it to get alone time with her and to finally be touched by a girl. If I don't get the date oh well at least I will have a memory to fap to later

Maybe. Post tits with timestamp first

yeah, dont do this

Starting with food was a good move. She needs food.
However, she won't go out with you because you did not explain how, in the event of an attacker, you would willing take a bullet by shielding her with your body. Women need to know this in order to feel safe. This is the next thing you have to make clear.
The third thing is to reveal your feelings - let her know that you desire meaningful companionship, and you are not using her as a status symbol. If she is good looking - she is use to being used by guys who want to show-off by "having her." You have to make it clear that is not what you are about.
The fourth thing you'll do is let her know the reasons why you like her. It is okay to tell her she is pretty. Chicks love that. Then praise something that she has accomplished. Most women can barely park a car in an empty lot on the first try - so you might have to pay close attention to her accomplishments. Give her the praise, and let her know you want to be with her because of more than her looks (but to don't just say that point blank!).
The last thing to do is talk about how you want this for yourself. Show her you are manly by talking about your needs for love and companionship. This will make you seem confidence and grownup. Most men will not admit their feelings. Don't hide behind being "casual" because then she'll say no, thinking that you don't really care whether she says yes or not.

Here is the link so you know this is legit advice. You can read more about it in detail. Practice your conversation in a mirror. If you have a picture of her - practice saying your lines into the picture. I find it is hard to remember my lines sometimes - and I found that if you can choose the setting of the conversation, you have a major advantage. For example, in a room I am familiar with, I can make certain objects visual reminders. Squat rack means food, bench is bullet, pull up bars are feelings, etc. Get it?

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Haha

It wont work
Do it anyway Its a good learning experience that will haunt you in flashbacks for the rest of your life when you are sitting down with nothing stimulating to distract you from the mediocrity of your whey protein shake.

>pull up bars are feelings, etc.

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You know, with women doing all this ridiculous amount of glute and posterior chain work, you'd think we'd be seeing more dominating female sprinters or track stars popping out of the woodwork on social media or whatever

I got a boner during a physical when I was a senior in HS while she was grabbing my balls and making me cough, and when she saw it she flicked it with her middle finger and said “boing!” and laughed.

She was hot. Early 30s. Wedding ring. It’s my prime beat off memory and has been for years.

>when she asks me to pay her
>At work
>Can't wait for the day to be over
>Just want to get paid and go home
>Customer suggests they buy me dinner instead of paying me for my services
Smooth, then you ghost her and change gyms

Pay her. Be friendly but more focused on the substantive osteo work. Later (the next day) send her a casual text. See uf you can get her chatting with you. If she’s joking around and playful, then see if she wants to grab a meal or coffee. (Or think of something else that would be fun, but isn’t a huge commitment.)

Just enjoy the free test boost. And the fact that you're probably not going to get labeled a creep for staring.

Oh, and you totally fucked up OP.

You're now a client, a potential income source. Dating you would take away from her potential income.

Yes yes of course she could still get money and gifts from a date, but she can only date so many men, she can have nearly unlimited clients.

But getting rejected can be a good experience if you don't make it into a huge traumatic thing. It's just a boost to her ego, a blow to your ego, and then you don't have to wonder "what if" and you can get on with your life.

Lol who says “fancy restaurant”?!

Gonna assume you only have access to like a TGI Fridays

Is this a joke?

>there are """men""" out there that are this autistic

lmao

you are fucking stupid OP, please do it so you can embarrass yourself in front of her

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Lol hey guys look at this retard

LOL how many times has this shit worked for you? That shit is maximum autism.

Pay her first

I'd go with this.

>shes looking around to see if anyone is looking at her

pathetic

>>being aware of her own social needs as a human in a social system
>pathetic
ftfy

you have a twisted view of society and will never be happy until you fix it

Pay her and ask her to do something as an afterthought. Don't do anything cringy.

Because a woman wants to be thought of as physically attractive, in a gym, where a lot of people go specifically to work on their physical attractiveness, that's twisted?

user just say something to the effect of "can i take you out to eat" just keep it simple. if you she says no tell her its fine so she doesnt mind more appointments with you

don't compare yourself to other guys that may or may not be shooting shots at her, just take your shot and move on if it misses.

A month or so ago you made a thread about going to see an in-training osteopath at your gym, being worried you'd get a boner when she is working on you. Right? Did you get a boner and was it good?

>"Hey I have absolutely nothing to offer you, want to waste your time with me?"

yeah, I am going to need a source on that perfect 10 ass. Please.

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hello sauce plis

nvm found her, @shaniahfit, also checked myself

first name some, last name cunt

Pay her normally, it is disrespectful to not pay the asked price for a service. You can ask her to dinner after the business side of things is done, as only then would it be appropriate.

Imagine if you were doing your job and some chick who you may not be into said ''hey how about you spend some time with me instead of me paying you''

Lmao the people in the background of this video are killing me.
>the 40 year old DYEL boomer in the match red shorts and cap
>the fat s oi couple
>all these bros backwards hats

Just KEK