/OWG/ - Olympic Weightlifting General

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>Please save the links for future threads edition.

>If you are new to weightlifting please read these first and check the other sources they link to before asking questions:
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chinfl.blogspotco.uk/2013/07/how-into-weightlifting.html
reddit.com/r/weightlifting/wiki/faq
iwf.net/doc/technical.pdf
yashathoughts.com/

>The information that you are looking for is probably in the above links.
That includes routines, shoes, information on the lifts, etc. Check out the pastebins for literature or the reddit faq for general information.

Included in this youtube playlist are videos related to weightlifting which you may find useful or insightful:
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Whether you keep your scaps retracted or not won't make a difference because none of you will get to the level where tech becomes a limiting factor anyway

Are you stupid? Tech is a limiting factor for just about anybody starting out weightlifting especially if they have some stregnht training behind

>beginners are limited by strength
are you pretending to be retarded

>cope
Once you learn how to do a visibly recognizeable snatch and cj you're already set to lift to your potential, which is probably very low. But keep blaming your 70kg snatch on tech, not the fact that you only squat 100

>He watched the last OP video

Nice

It's both, really. The squat number matters less than the way it's executed. But it's not correct to say that your technique is at it's fullest potential after less than six months of lifting.

People who retract their scapulas should learn to not do that. It's bad technique and unsustainable.

Thanks for posting links opie

Not allowed to do any bar stuff according to physio for another week - now been 3 months basically off wl altogether. What are some upper body accessories I should max out on? Sort of want to do a 1rm weighted dip, I think I could manage +55

Lbs or kg?

I'd say pull ups, dips, and box jumps.

Overhead pressing is good too. Maybe push pressing? I don't know your injury.

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Just barely on schedule for my goals

Kg lol. I've been going hard on the vertical pulling and horizontal pushing. You're right about pressing though, I'm definitely neglecting it. I have a hip issue which is preventing front rack and any hip flexion/extension.

looking at your knees when you're coming up makes my knees hurt. fix that shit asap if you still want to have functional knees in the future.

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valgus isn't really a problem though

really? x for doubt. every time I get lazy and that happens I can feel it for days.

Does anyone have "Olympic Weightlifting: A Complete Guide for Athletes & Coaches" by Everett? The links are dead. Thanks in advance.

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anonfile.com/Q1n0Gdn1bc/Olympic_Weightlifting_A_Complete_Guide_for_Athletes_Coaches_-_Everett_Greg_-_-Jan_2016_-_Croker2016_epub

Thanks, very much appreciated.

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This is gonna give me a virus won't it?

>epub
>virus

that could be because you're not in control. A bit of valgus shouldn't be painful at all

Question: in the clean, I straighten my legs first, then aligned with the hip movement I pull the bar up. I can’t however make the bar rub on my quads, because of mobility shit I think. When catching the bar, I feel like I can’t go so low so I end up quarter squatting instead of actually going down and catching. And in the jerk, I don’t get how the fuck I’m supposed to use legs to push the bar up. After I push and crouch under to let my arms catch, it feels like they’re gonna give out. I also can’t do overhead squats with more than 95 lbs (will lose balance), any tips?

Any exercises to increase snatch stability (or overhead squat stability) or to support my shoulders to be more reliable with holding the weight up in snatch and jerk? I know some but I’m a newbie with a 75kg clean and 65kg clean and jerk and 52.5kg snatch.

it's not mobility, it's because you're fully extending your legs lol
push against the ground and extend with a consistent back angle until you reach the knees. After the knees, you should extend legs and hips in tandem, so that at the pocket (just before extension) you have a little bit of knee and hip extension left. Your knee angle and hip angle should be roughly similar at the point of extension. That's why you can't keep contact and end up being in a bad position to catch low.

In the jerk, it should be all leg extension. Keep core, upper back, and lower back tight, with a big chest. Imagine your torso like a block of perfectly hard concrete, and your legs are a spring. Any softness in the torso and you don't transfer full force into the bar. Try jerk dips to get the movement down, and push press to learn full leg extension. As for OHS, just do a lot of reps with the bar until it feels natural, it's probably just a balance and mobility thing

snatch grip push press
snatch balance
bar work - often instability in the catch is as much a function of bad positioning as it is a failure to keep tight. People loop the bar way out in front then thing that they can't catch it because they're weak, when in reality the bar's just out of position

hardly any valgus desu
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this is a different story though

that's just disgusting to look at desu

im ashamed of it

That last rep, wew

did you switch to power jerk?

i hurt my ankle a bit ago and it messed up my split so i just swapped for the time being. didnt prevent me from split jerking, just felt like too big of a risk to further injure it. probably wont retrain the split until february. feels cool to sotts the bar up though

An absolute beginner is limited by technique in weightlifting, especially if they come from a powerlifting/bodybuilding background and have a lot of strength, they'll just brute force the bar and wonder why they can't get past 100 kg

awesome, thanks a lot man!

You should keep them active

How did you train your jerk? Front squats? Quarter front squats?

Overloaded jerk dips (1/4 rep front squats with slow lowering)
Ohp & push press
BTN jerk
Squat/power jerk for triples
Practice split jerks with empty bar, focusing on foot positioning

He's a man after a (You)

Daaamnn I'm mirin' man. Really damn good entrance position. Do you compete? Natty? Also nice music, but don't know how you can lift to burzum, since it's really atmospheric

Actually the lad has a pretty wide stance, opening knees asks a lot from mobility to be able to produce force the same way. It has a lot to do with individual hip anatomy.

>No improvements, just excuse.

What's your point

I'm a beginner who started out in october, 73kg bw moving up to 81 but struggling, i can only lift 3 times a week, how long until this will hinder my progress?

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Many old time greats lifted three-four times a week and snatched 140kg+ en C&J 170kg+ so you tell me

power jerks, push presses, presses, front squats

i'll compete january. natty. whats an entrance position?

We doin this bois

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Please tell me all that is wrong with my form

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that angle sucks ass youre halfway out of frame.i guess keep your chest up, weight looks a little forward. ass is probably raising but i cant really tell from here. looks like youre scared of using your arms or something. makes your turnover look gay. next time record a video of a hang powerclean from the knee, pause at the knee, relax your arms and do a few powercleans from there. use some speed and remember that the arms are used after extension.

looks like youre scared of powercleaning because you care about what people think about your technique. weight made it from the ground to the chest and its above parallel you've learned the exercise enough to just start training it, iron out the kinks as you go

How would you place your feet if you had to jump really far? That's how they should be placed. Keep your back straight and relax your shoulders. Try to get into a position where you push with your legs instead of pulling with your back. Arch your lower back.

Also, watch this 6 part video:

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this is the best stretch for overhead mobility btw

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No

Didint miss a lift and I made a pr of 2lbs on my cleans and jerk I was also 2kg away from qualifying for a meet in abq. I can still qualify just have to get down to the 102kg class.

224kg total

i cleaned 130kg the first time i tried, only deadlifted it before that i could dl 230kg at that time more now, probally can clean more too lmao

and that was with just raw strength i wonder how much i could do if my technique was anywhere near decent

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dont listen to these babbies a little valgus is normal and not bad youre the best lifter in this general lmao none of these 100kg squatters come even close

cleans looked fine to me but the front squats sucked
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New program for this block, volume will taper down As these 8 weeks go by.

Day1
No feet snatch 6x3
Snatch Rack pull 5x5

>gpp 4 min ea
Glute back bridge
Box plank

Day2
Power clean 6x3
Pause front squat 5x5
no belt Power jerk 6x3
>gpp 7 min ea
Cabel Flys
lateral raises
lever rows
Day3
Snatch 5 singles
Clean and jerk 5 Singles
Back squat 4x4
>Tech work

Day4
Slow deficit clean 4x4
SNPP +ohs 4x4
Jerk Dips 4x4

deep rompush-ups 3-5 sets
Chin-ups 3-5sets

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Anyone got advice on how to slowly incorporate more volume into the week? My program is very focused on intensity and not as much on volume and more reps so not a lot of hypertrophy. I tried doing some extra pressing every other day but that just ended up fatiguing my arms by a lot.

Your program might be designed so that you spend all your energy on intensity and adding volume on top would be more than you can recover from

if you're just a pussy though, try adding 1-2 hypertrophy exercises (e.g. 4x8 db shoulder press) at the end of the session and see how you cope. An extra 20-30 minutes of LISS could also help you recover better and costs 0 in terms of recovery/fatigue

>he does block periodization

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exhausting

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Any book recommendations? Can't find an ebook for Kono and cbf reading anything by Everett. Just read hybrid athlete by Viada, it was ok

naim or boevskis biographies

what's the format? Is it about wl training and informational, or more story/narrative?

boevskis is all narrative but naims has plenty of naims own training data.
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damn this video is drama queen shit

i don’t get it

mirin incline bench

This desu.

I am a powerbuilder looking to incorporate oly lifting into my routine for improved shoulder and overhead mobility, and quite honestly I just want to fuck around and have fun, what would you suggest to me?

push presses ,cleans, and power jerks(like viktor sotts)
youtu.be/aM67yCnhlqE?t=128
imo good to improve shoulder and overhead mobility without much headache or getting too tossed into the world of retard hipster weightlifting and not knowing which way is up. Look into thoracic spine mobility stuff for your overhead. stretch your lats and chest out

are you 12 or a manlet?

thanks will do, but what about specifically programming it, how do I do it

This. But try to get rid of it.

Glenn pendlay training for the supertotal is fun.

leaning back on ohp is like arching for bench press. Absolutely necessary for pressing max weights

If I bench 70kg 3 X 5 at 60kg do you think I'd be any good at Olympic lifting in this weight class or a bit bigger? I want to get into it for a hobby but it would be fun to compete, I also strict OHP 45kg for reps

in olympic lifting they dont do bench or ohp so who knows

why is good programming so FUCKING COMPLICATED

Bridynamnam, nigga you gay

it actually is very simple

if you want to learn the fundamentals of programming strength training look into powerliftinf theres a lot of resources

It's really simple my dude.

Introduce enough stress on the body to damage the muscles, then wait for the body to adapt. This is done by periodization. Volume blocks, recovery blocks, peaking blocks. This can be done on a micro cycle (weekly) and macro cycle (monthly) for most people while advanced athletes usually have yearly cycles centered around one or two important meets.

Check out this playlist youtube.com/watch?v=k7_kCLHOl_0&list=PL1rSl6Pd49IlsiAgFRWNI1ruDGNrMJ092

it's not tho, just max out sn, cj and fs every day lol

Just do what starr, bednarski and kono did. It's not hard. Train 3-4 times a week for about 90 minutes, stress the muscles and go home. Add weight when it gets too easy take some weight off when it gets too hard. Heavy/light/medium on the squats. Badda bing badda boom.

real big brain advice here

Whats the optimal amount of reps on diet to keep your maxes? Planning to do a slow cut for 20 weeks

Slow cut? 20 weeks? God damn, just cut hard, it's the best way really. 20 weeks of no gains and a decreasing max is depressing and bad.

Fast cut = muscle loss

im not totally sure how to answer that other than periodize. how do you program other exercises? more strict presses and push presses in the beginning, less later in the program. higher volume to lower volume, low intensity to high intensity. stick to the principles and personalize it so that the program looks like something you'll progress on.
its not

better advice than picking the most appealing 4 week program you can find or nabbing a braindead coach. or even worse a remote coach.

muscle snatches are one of my true loves
I do a couple sets with them almost every day with an empty bar just because I find them so good for shoulder and scapula movement

Memes upon memes. Slow cut = no muscle gain, for 20 weeks in your case. Are you telling me you will lose all your gains in two weeks time?

Autism.

I have to mention that I always cut from 15%-20% to 10%-12% (visual estimates). If you're cutting from 10-12% to a lower percentage, slow is the way to guy. But if you're really fluffy, you gotta cut fast and eat loads of protein (especially before going to bed).

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I keep missing the bar in front and I keep hitting the front of my feet when I catch the snatch. I tell my self to pull more backwards but I can't seem to get it. Anyone got any good drills for getting the bar to the exact spot it needs to be? Snatch balance? Snatch from the hang?

I'm a dancer who lifts on the side for both fun and improved performance. I'm currently on a generic strength program but looking to mix things up for variety.
Would oly lifts have good carryover? Dancing is largely endurance and mobility, but I need strength to do lifts with the big tiddy goth gfs on stage.

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Snatch dead lift and hold the bar in the power position for five seconds or longer. Really feel where you need to be. Then, do snatch high pulls and keep the bar close to your body when you fully extend. Also, if you are retracting your scapula, stop that right now. It's fucking with your bar path.

Weightlifting=strength and mobility. Push presses and jerks would have great carryover for lifts. Go for it!

Thanks, I'll read through the basics and then try to find a local coach.

Muscle snatch
Snatch high pull
Snatch from hip

Sounds like your’re not finishing the pull

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