Just got some bloodwork done, test levels came out at 623 ng/dL. That's below average, but still technically within the normal range so I'll probably have a hard time convincing my doctor to put me on TRT. Any suggestions?
How do I convince my doctor to give me TRT?
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go to a wellness doctor that specializes in hormone treatments?
anti aging clinic
Intentionally lower testosterone
Drink mint, liquor or whatever to lower it and trick your doctor
If my primary care doctor says no, that's what I'll probably do. Still an uphill battle though.
I'm 22, so that probably won't fly.
>being a pussy and going to a doctor
>not buying roids in your gym locker room and leaving humanity behind
faggot
>22
>already has low test
rope
I had 180 and my doctor said no. You aren’t getting TRT from your general care doc, you’ll need to see a TRT clinic and at 600+ I doubt you’ll get it. Your only chance is get some test from a steroid dealer
>180.
Fuck man, that's horrible.
Join a body building FB group and message a couple people asking for test sources. I’d post mine herr but me no want ban hammer.
I felt like fucking killing myself for a year and a half because low test is that bad then I naturally rebounded into non-depressing levels.
Moral of the story? Don’t take steroids, and if you do then have a proper post cycle in place
Fuck I meant
That's why I want to get roids from a doctor instead of some shady dude at the gym. How did you rebound?
Nobody here is going to listen to me... it's just easier to get it illegally. However if you must go the legal route, find a major bodybuilding gym in America. The main Gold's Gym in Venice Beach, Metroflex, Armbrust Gym, etc... there's always an "hrt/anti-aging doctor" very close. Call or email him and see if he can do "long distance care" to you.
Getting TRT won't increase your test levels enough to make a difference. There is no changes in performance or symptoms from increasing test in anyone within the normal test range(you).
If you need more convincing, this study tested close to 700 elite olympic athletes and found a significant portion of them to have "low" T. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
average for early 20's is about 700, anything within 600 is fine you faggot. Yeah it's not optimal, but you could probably get above average just by diet and lifestyle at that point, especially if you had that test done in the afternoon.
Just use steroids if that's what you want, but your doctor is not going to give you trt just because you're a little below average. Take d3 or something.
you don't need TRT, if you want to take sterons, then do it... but you won't benefit from theraputic doses.
TRT literally won't do anything for you other than shut down your testes with a chance of never going on again. Do a full cycle or stay natty, the middle ground is just the worst of both options with the benefit of none.
My buddy was a dealer and convinced me to try it, I was a dumbass and got jelly of his strength gains so I caved. Also doctors don’t prescribe tren to 18 year olds. I did test and tren for 8 weeks and test and mast for 4 and I didn’t have a proper PCT, hence why I had shit test for 1.5+ years. I just ended up dealing with it and eventually my body naturally got back to levels that make me not feel like complete shit.
Thanks.
Interesting.
I took it in the morning, I exercise regularly and my diet is good. High protein, minimal processed food, and I take a multivitamin.
>D3
Will do. Any other supps that you'd reccomend? For now it looks like I'll focus on getting my mircos on point and get retested in a few weeks.
Really? The performance difference between 600 and 900-1100 ng/dL isn't that much?
>Everyone you meet and have ever met will dislike you.
Kek
This is literally the least relevant test and doing it only once gives incomplete data. Unless you have serious problems with putting on mass and strength, you should be fine.
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>not taking the path of Jeff Seid.
Go to a different doctor you utter faggot. There are literally guys who just do this all day and will prescribe you hcg and nolva to go w your test.
Lol. No. It isn't. Your just a low motivation, low test faggot who doesn't want to deal with this so it isn't an option for you to have to consider. Once you get on teh shit, you'll laugh at how defeatist you were. Just get through the hard part of picking up teh phone and dialing.
path of rippletits for me. It doesn't matter how ugly you are, if you're the world's strongest man you'll get quality poontang. and money
623 isn't low, retard
> 623 ng/dl
> i NEED TRT!!
you're a fucking retard, seriously.
Your doctor wont put you on TRT because it is STUPID and UNETHICAL to put someone on a lifelong medication that has potentially irreversible or partially irreversible side effects ---- just because the patients THINKS he needs it
You haven't even tried to improve your testosterone levels through other interventions, far less COSTLY and SAFER interventions first.
the people in this thread are fucking moron kids and i hope you dont listen to them.
>have perfectly normal and average tests levels
>hey guys how do I get my doctor to let me take injections with serious side effects for the rest of my life for zero benefit
>All of these natty cucks who don't want to make gainz on easymode
Except trt will give him literally fucking nothing because it'll put him at the same level he's at now
I don't mean TRT. Op is a cuck too and should get himself the test of a race horse.
OP is falsely convinced there would be a huge difference in performance between him and someone with a few hundreds ng higher total T, while at this level it's dependant on many other factors.
Most people don't want to trade muscles for health problems.
Based.
Uneducated.
600 is fine, there's not much difference within the normal range. Count yourself lucky, I know a guy in his 20s with test below 200.
nigga I have 450 and I feel fine, but here's some advice:
You need free test tested because that one is more important.
TRT will do nothing for you (not like you could ever get it)
Stop falling for Jow Forums memes.
pic related is my test result which is almost exactly the same as yours. Im also 22. Can you link me 1 study that says it is below average? As far as i'm aware it's bang on average. There's no way any sane doctor would even consider TRT for you at this test level. People who have TRT wish they had these levels naturally.
If you want to roid then you need to get it online. Im from UK so its legal but online in US you can get it easily with a bit of digging.
Also, i've only tested test once off all vitamins. I might retest now im on ZMA, D3, and have a better diet. Btw I would say I put on muscle mass relatively easily and I have no mental issues.
>they lowered the lower limit to 7.6 nmol/l
jesus fuck
Yeah I don't support that. See this calculator for better ranges and one that professionals use:
nebido.com
My GP had 5.6 lmfao
Is it possible to lower your test so it's below the range needed for TRT for the bloodwork? Not sleeping for a day or two or something like that?
>The performance difference between 600 and 900-1100 ng/dL isn't that much?
I'm doing a test cycle and not even this is that big of a difference. TRT for you is 100% worthless.
go to Mexico
Path of Zyzz or Rippetoe
>The performance difference between 600 and 900-1100 ng/dL isn't that much?
Yes. For reference, test will go to 2000-4000+ on a cycle depending on dose.
Also no sane doc is giving you testosterone at 600+ ng/dl. That's not hypogonadism and if your dick isn't working at those levels you have other problems.