Going off SSRIs

I took 30mg of Lexapro, down to 10mg now
Like what should I be doing differently?

discussing this with a doctor that actually knows what the fuck they're doing.
good luck with that though.

but like the other user said, a year seems way more appropriate than a month to taper off.

That's a relatively lack luster story. To find the true meaning of life, drop the drugs, sell all your belongings and then go on a one way trip to Thailand and live there for five years by the will of your wits and mind alone. If you survive, then you will have cured your mind of all the evil in it. If you don't well then it's one less bloated crack addled whore in this world, but at least your death serving as a twink cum rag and chasing the dragon will be more interesting than shitting up the quality of an already fully overflowing outhouse of a board.

This guys basically right, your brain chemical function will never be right after being on ssri's in that phase. The only real thing you can do is constantly tell yourself that you are more than the chemicals in your head.

y. Pharmacyfag

Then kill yourself.

You'll survive.

That woman knows nothing about you. I realized these people are trash. They never listen. They spend maybe 45 mins with hundreds of people every 3 weeks and expect that to help. They are trash.

Get FRIENDS. GET NORMAL PEOPLE.

You suddenly find out everyone is raped. Everyone is abused. Everyone is neglected. And no nothing good comes from it. Everyone suffers alone. Everyone lies to themselves about being ok.

Its ok to be depressed user. You need to learn to love yourself because you have changed someone and hopefully for the best. I have learned that the only way to cure depression is redirecting negativity outward. Not to others. But into your body.

Get angry. Get hateful. I want you to find something you hate and kill it. That is masculinity. Go do the hardest thing you can. Where you fear most is where you need to be.

Am I permanently damaged?
>How I will
I seriously feel like I’m capable of so little, I’m basically autistic and suck at talking and all the people I ever have opportunities with eventually stop replying to me and I can’t tell if it’s just a natural lack of response or if it’s decisive rejection, not to mention intimacy, which I’ve never had and the idea of which makes me existentially terrified and hopeless. It seems like the only people I’m ever good enough for are always weird losers that I do everything in my power to be as little like as possible, and I’m hyper judgmental of myself and others, but if I’m not then I do and like stupid shit. It’s like no matter what I do always do it wrong, and all the ways I’ve tried to compensate for my shortcomings seem to end up causing new problems

I have talked with my psychiatrist about this, a year long process for this was never mentioned?

Will try to reply to rest when I can

Start reading self help literature.
I understand that Jordan Peterson is a meme, but he unironically saved my life last year.
youtube.com/watch?v=PtowZWnkg3Y

I'm feeling sorry for you and many others in the same position as you, because what you really need is someone actually fucking knowledgeable to explain things to you and help you.
unfortunately psychologists/psychiatrists are mostly idiots.

I know what it's like to feel like you're capable of so little, and it's fucking terrible.
listening to videos of Jordan Peterson is one thing that did really help.
he understands and explains well how people and society work.

I live at home since I graduated college a year ago, I have no life skills and don’t know how to take care of myself or how to travel or to be engaged with the human world at large. I only remember how to be superficial to people I meet in life, I don’t know how to be anything other than that. If I were kicked out of my house and had to fend for myself right now, I’d have absolutely no clue what to do or how to live for myself, because I’ve never had to do that before.
And honestly Jow Forums is probably one of the lesser shit boards of Jow Forums believe it or not
So am I just fucked forever? How do I not feel like I can’t do anything? Do I have to go back on my meds?
I don’t know how to find good normal people and the only normal people I ever find are always obnoxious to me. Everyone likes so much stupid shit and think they’re cool for liking it and it makes me want to vomit.
I like your words but this just makes me more sad because I know I can’t do what you’re saying. When I get mad I basically have a temper tantrum , if it’s at home with family I act like a brat and if it’s in public I stomp my feet in private and am miserable the entire day, I don’t know how to be a fucking man like I should. And one way or another I just end up just sad and feeling sorry for myself and wanting others to pity me like a leech.
My psych keeps suggesting meetup groups (the website) to meet people and all the people on there seem so vanilla and faggy it just pisses me off. But they are normal people? But I want to be friends with normal people too? But not those kinds of normal people? I’m a walking contradiction in every sense
Well shit I guess I’ll look into that at some point
What’s a person I can find that would be better than a psych through?
Thank you all

>>What’s a person I can find that would be better than a psych through?
if I knew that, it would help solve many of my own problems.
I'm guessing it would be a life mentor. an older, more experienced person who's high in openness, and understands problems of adolescents that don't fit into society.
it could be anyone, someone from work, school, sports, hobby, family. it's not tied to a profession.
but yeah, good luck finding someone like that...

I don't know what you mean when you want someone better than a psychologist. A psychologist seems like a perfect candidate to help you sort your shit out.
Read his 12 Rules for Life book. Its entry level self help, but does milestones for people

I’m getting from this thread that psych’s aren’t as effective as other things can be, though I’m obviously not going to stop seeing mine anytime soon I do feel I’m not getting an approach that would work better for me, but then again I’m different from everyone else and everyone is different so it’s not like there’s a solution to this question anyway
As empty handed as I feel there are still a good amount of people that are good influences in my life, I don’t know if it’s always enough but I’m glad for this at least

a psychologist should be someone that's able to help with this.
in practice, that just often isn't the case. they can also do more harm than good.
I'm not against trying a bunch of different psychologists/psychotherapists, and sticking to one that seems to help though.

the problem is that you used SSRIs to seal the hole instead of actually fixing the hole

pharmaceuticals are a tool, but you used them and didn't change your ways and discipline, so now a decade later your brain chemistry is adjusted to the SSRIs and you've progressed nowhere by using them

fuck everyone else in this thread - I've got good news for you: you'll be just fine
the caveat is you gotta put the effort in to rectify your situation.

I've been on depressants and even adderall many times through my middle school and teenage years, went into college last year and fucked up badly, took a break from Uni, stayed with my parents and used meds properly for the first time (and got my life in proper order), came back and just finished a successful semester and feeling the best I've ever been.

the best time to get your shit together is NOW

the most common theme in my life was that I was waiting for things to get better or some divine angel to come down and make everything work out my way and grant me the skills and experiences I've desired forever

then one day I had enough of waiting for tomorrow and said "why not now?" and have been building discipline, reading books, and studying hard. I also got a psychologist to help me analyze what's been internally holding me back and understand myself on a deeper level.

you need to stop moping around and START LIVING NOW

it's up to you to make your life worth something, or the be the equivalent of a cow in the farmyard.

believe me OP, I've been there before - I feared fucking up, being uncomfortable, and making mistakes, but I toughened up and turned those moments into a learning experience and have progressively matured into a better human being.

close the thread, get off Jow Forums and whatever crap sites you burn your time in, grow some balls, and get some self respect by pursuing your greatest self

godspeed; if you have any questions throw em at me before you gtfo

Life is about consistently getting over bigger and bigger fears. You won't do it until you do it, but when you do it will give you confidence and energy unlike anything else.

Now this isn't saying how to "do it", which is something you find out on your own. Try a lot of things and see what works, for me sticking to a hard schedule has never worked, but happening to do what I needed to do did work. That might not make sense, but again it's what I discovered for myself. You need to find what works for you.

Fear will destroy your life it you let it, every advance you let it make into your own life choices is another part of life that you have let go of. For example, people who are afraid of airplanes often develop new fears if they never face it. For me, being afraid of airplanes made me afraid of elevators and then even doctor's appointments. I let fear take over. I just got over this fear of airplanes, which was scary no doubt and I had to do it again and again until the fear was dulled, but afterwards I felt a surge of confidence and strength and the world bloomed open for me. My auxiliary fears lost power, and the world looked more like a place to interact with than to fear.

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Better question, how do I get off benzos?

Talk to your doctor about tapering you off, quitting cold-turkey will fuck you up

Sorry, my question was kinda rhetorical. I've been off them in the past but surprise, without benzos, anxiety takes over my brain and prevents me from functioning normally even with all the sleep/meditation/exercise in the world.

This is good information. SSRIs aren't some magic drug that will make you a productive member in society. Its to help with the body chemistry stuff that is making you crazy.
I got on them maybe fifteen or so years after I got out of the military, when PTSD hit me like a fucking train. What they do for me is keep me from going into that deep 'fight or flight' mode where I'm a paranoid mess. Other than that, I'm still the same me doing the same things.
But if you're doom and gloom when on the SSRIs, it ain't the pills, it's you. You need to seek help for that, or change your lifestyle to get away from that like that poster said.

Guys after you taper off and do blood test where there is no more pharma in there, find an ayahuasca clinic or ibogaine clinic in mexico. Youll fix your problems, because the drug is going to make you face those problems by force. Its helped me a lot.

masochist detected, abandon thread, literally asking to be verbally beat up to verify his own lack of self worth

you can be anything you want user, especially if you want to be worthless

I get the fear part, user. Do you feel frightened of the unknown?

>Parents put you on antidepressants at 10

OOHHH SAY CAN YOU SEEEEEEEEEE

>I’ve been on SSRIs since I was like 10 and I’m 23 now
You poor thing

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Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING you think and feel is based on brain chemicals. Serotonin, Dopamine, Endorphins, Oxytocin and GABA probably being the most important neural transmitters. SSRIs work on Seratonin, Benzodiazepines and Barbiturates effect GABA transmission and impact dopamine. If you want to live off pharma drugs you have to figure out how to regulate these brain chemicals on your own. You might want to look into various nootropics like Kratom or Phenibut, some people micro dose psychedelics. I'm looking into megadosing zinc rn. Zinc as a mineral is ionized and as such may effect the GABA receptors in a similar way as Benzo's. Might wanna also try oral GABA, I may try that next. Besides drugs external stimuli also effect these chemicals (i.e achieveing a goal releases dopamine, pain or exercise releases endorphins ect) This is also one reason porn is so destructive on the brain and can lead to increased degeneracy, in order to stimulate the same amount of dopamine release (similar to heroin addict chasing the dragon) people may get into more and more perverse stuff until a normal relationship is unsatisfying. The good news is you can train your brain. I would start by living a physically healthy lifestyle with a balanced diet, exercise and good sleep, try some professional therapy, and then maybe look into the zinc, GABA, or mild nootropics

tbf sometimes it can be necessary. I'm in the same boat as OP. When I was around 10 I developed severe paranoia and anxiety, which led me to stop eating because I was convinced that everything I ate was poisoned. After being hospitalized for malnutrition I was put on Prozac which fixed my anxiety. That being said it shouldn't be used as a fix-all like some people think it is.

>not mentioning the most important neurotransmitter, glutamate
if you want to fix the regulation of glutamate and GABA, you should do a ketogenic diet. if you want nutrients to help the brain fix itself, you should do an animal-based diet.
even though zinc is vital for brain functioning, megadosing it is a bad idea. copper depletion is no fun.
people with bipolar get therapeutically megadosed on lithium to stabilize mood, but the side effects are pretty fucking bad.
getting enough magnesium, zinc, and iron is important, but megadosing is not the solution.

oral GABA doesn't work, because the issue is that the body converts too much GABA into glutamate and not enough glutamate in GABA.
besides a ketogenic diet, supplementing acetylcysteine and glycine can work, because they produce glutathione (an endogenous antioxidant; neuroprotective) and use up some glutamate in the process.

>the one time there was a legitimate reason to put a child on SSRI.
I remember when I was in 3rd of 4th grade my principal told my parents I need to be put on ADHD meds. We went to a doctors office, I took a test, and my test results got "mixed up" with another that basically said I was a deranged psychopath. They got the correct results and we talked to a PCP about being on the ADHD medication. I remember they asked me who's class I was in, after telling her she said,
>"oh lots of kids in your class are on it".
Literally "all the cool kids are doing it" trying to pedal meds to kids. Even though actually answering that question would violate HIPAA.

imagine all the mental illness these kids are gonna have when they grow up.
fucking bipolar man.

Psychiatry and Psychotherapy are among the fastest growing job sectors.

this is so fucking sad

I've heard stories where Ketamine or DMT can help with therapist and group therapy interaction.

You arent fucked forever but if you really want to feel better it's going to take effort. The biggest thing is figuring out what in your life will make you happy, and I mean your brain and body producing correct levels of serotonin. Even with that it will probably take a few years at best. Try shrooms, psilocybin is similar to serotonin and typically will give you a better perception of reality. It also helps "reset" your brains levels of serotonin which may help in your situation as well.

Im going to tell you something OP that my based gf told me.If you can change your mins you can change your life.How your brain is working negatively right now it can also do things positively you got this faggot

Get a new therapist or try a CBT book

I went to college for psychology, and have been through some really bad shit, making me pretty fucked up on the other side, so I can relate OP... But dude, talk to a legit doctor that you trust, and then discuss where you want to go. And about being afraid - just pick something super small that you know you can conquer/beat, and keep doing it bigger and bigger everyday, let "I've kicked yesterday's ass, I can kick today's ass" be your new mantra. I've been in that spot, laying on the floor crying, wishing that "she" loved me and that my brother was still alive so I could ask him for fucking advice, and I was so sick of my stomach pain (since I was 12) I just wanted to kill myself... But after awhile I figured out what was going on with my stomach (casein intolerance) and then I started go work on my mental shit, my body followed and now it's crazy, I actually feel like I've made it. Like I've gotten my fucking claws, and the thing is, I think going through all of that bullshit made me stronger. Not to be stupid, but maybe the heaviest things we lift are our feelings - and bro, we can all make it.

You need a psychoanalyst, friend. Those are for heavy duty fuck up cases like most anons on Jow Forums.
Meme cognitive behavioral therapies and pills are for normies that have the blues. You need the strong stuff