When did you realise minimalist routines were superior?

When did you realise minimalist routines were superior?

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Theyre not lazy fag get out of here

>an entire day for squat
based trips

It’s no so much minimalism or maximisim that gives results, it’s improving and getting stronger. Maxisimism tends to lead to failure due to the fact too much redundant volume is being done by the individual, which in turn leads to either minimal gains or regression, minimalist routines remove all the possible ways you can fuck up, which greatly increase the chance you will succeed (get stronger) and therefore see more results.

I am a trainer and every single guy I have taken and put on a simple minimal routine (who was previously doing The WORLD of shit in the gym) has always seen better results with less time and effort.

Lifting, like anything else in life, is about working smart and efficiently, not working inefficiently and dumb.

They aren't. A wide array of related exercises and and high volume are way better.

depends on your goals

But i love being at the gym since i dont have anything else to do in my free time.

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>not just squatting everyday
Never gonna make it

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>minimalist routines
>minimalist gains

>way better

Nope. Maybe 1-5%, but not “way better”.

A guy who OHPs 100kg and Deadlifts 220kg once per week will be bigger and more developed than a weaker guy who does 50 different exercises for shoulders and traps.

It is literally all about your strength as a natural.

Disclaimer: It should be common sense that when discussing routine:training methods that were discussing the natural lifter, as steroids change a lot about how one can train. Add steroids into the mix and a pump and fluff routine that would net 0 gains for a natty would get the steroid user huge.

>Lifting, like anything else in life, is about working smart and efficiently, not working inefficiently and dumb.
Writing is about working efficiently.

I challenge you to do more training then. You know the end result is basically nothing right? The body can only be pushed so far. The one and only way to be jacked as a natural lifter is to take the limited amount of work you can get results from and maximise your efficiency with that workload. The worst thing a natural can do is be having dozens, if not hundreds, of redundant worthless junk volume that is leading to absolutely 0 gains, and if anything, is infact reducing ones ability to progress

>worthless junk volume that is leading to absolutely 0 gains
>do one exercise instead
you're a fucking retard

Being strong at 1 exercise will give you more muscular gains as a natural lifter than being weak at 100 exercise.

I know it’s hard to believe possible, it goes against everything you’ve probably ever been taught in life.

Nah
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>Being strong at 1 exercise will give you more muscular gains as a natural lifter than being weak at 100 exercise
just stop posting you fucking idiot and start training so maybe one day you won't be weak at every fucking exercise

Agreed, even people who literally do one exercise most of the time like Bugenhagen don't recommend their style for beginners.

How many sets a day?

That is not what you should be asking.

You should be ramping up intensity over the weeks and then resetting and working off a new 1RM

Pic related is an example of Back Squats done once a week. Each week you train at at certain % of your current 1RM.

Selecting an assistant exercise should only be done if you find a particular partner of your body is not developing as well. For example of you find Back Squat and Conventional Deadlift is not developing your lower body equally you would add in an accessory. If your quads are lagging behind your hamstrings and glutes, you would add in Front Squats. If your hamstrings are lagging behind your quads and glutes you would add in Romanian Deadlifts. If your glutes are lagging behind your quads and hamstrings you would add in Glute Bridges.

The problem is people assume incorrectly that they can just do everything at once and avoid ever having weaknesses, the problem with that is you end up ruining your ability to progress on the main lift itself as you simply do not have the time/energy to train everything efficiently and effectively, without just throwing everything at the kitchen sink at your body and hoping it works.

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Ive always done 10 or less sets a session, don't understand this 40+ set shit I see everywhere. You're either just fucking around with baby weight, asking to get injured or on drugs.

maximalism *

fucking Kelly Wearstler is in this thread now. Maximalism weirdos

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>implying

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post body

Bullshit. I ran Texas Method until just under 2345, only since I switched to a nice PPL with a refreshing mix of exercises did I get yuge

gonna call bs here... 1234 and still being dyel I can believe, happens all the time. But 2345? No, sorry - you're either trolling or dismorphic/low self-esteem

kek this is unironically accurate

>fucking stacy
>on a sunday night football

clearly never been near a chad before

This is flat out wrong, as your CNS becomes used to the stimulus of that one exercise you will get less and less out of it. You need to add accessories in to provide proper stressful stimulus to grow in strength or size

Blackpill: Some people respond to minimalist training, some respond to moderatist training, and some respond to maximalist training.


t. wasted years training all out maxxing it spinning my wheels, tried out minimalist routines and made better gains with 90% less work

hahahhaha yeah its the isolations that got that guy a big chest, not the 400 bench, lmao.

This is only true if your a beginner-early to mid intermediate. Once you get to that phase you have to introduce volume and accessories that help with the lift or you will not progress any greater than you have. My programming started off more minimalist but eventually over time as I stopped progressing I then started adding in accessories and they have helped a bunch.

Why not do full body one day then rest?
Or like bench chin ups squat rest etc.?

Yes and that doesn't change the fact 95%+ of your results are still coming from your basic minimalist part of your routine.

You can use mental gymnastics to rationalize that extra time you spend lifting as being worth it all you want, it's not going to change the fact of the situation.

Its about doing the right amount of training. Someone really advanced needs a lot more training in order to progress then someone that is a newbie.

You're delusional if you think anyone who has a 400lb bench doesn't have accessories in their routine

complimentarist - minimalist routines are the ultimate in body shaping.

I wasnt that big at 2345 either. I was 198 at 5'10. And I agree with that user I didnt get beefy until I started adding in more volume and accessories which were maby 2-3. People need to understand there is a huge difference in sarcoplasmic hypertrophy and myofibrillar hypertrophy.

Lifting is about trial and error. What works for you doesn't necessarily work for someone else. An user already pointed out that if you only train those lifts than your CNS will not get enough stimulus in due time and your progress will stagnate. Show me any elite level lifter in any strength specific sports(powerlifting, strongman, or weightlifting) that do a minimalist routine and are considered strong by your definition. It's not me who has to rationalize this, it's you. If you had any understanding or knowledge about proper programming you would know the things that have been pointed out in this thread. Stay delusional or learn from your mistakes. Your rationale is black and white yet in reality there is so many grey areas in between.

>high volume mutually exclusive with minimalism

user, I...

I do a compound lift everyday. Squat, Bench, Dead, OHP.

yup i had friday off which is one of my lifting days, bought 2 five hour energies and lifted for 3 hours.

i bet you have such a shitty workload, i also bet you look like shit

you squat... once a week? and press 3 times?

imagine going through all this trouble just so your biceps and other muscles can grow and inch or two.
Imagine your time being so worthless you spend it on a gym lifting heavy objects over and over again the same way millions do everyday and thinking this somehow makes you special or worthy of respect and admiration.
Jow Forums truly is the most deluded and pathetic board on Jow Forums
>b-but muh dedication...
lmao

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>no cardio

>t. sub 2pl8 bench

Let them have their isolations and accessories now. Everyone goes through that stage of their lifting where they do everything and try to max their gains. They'll eventually learn and go minimalist after a few years, anyone who sticks to lifting long enough always ends up going the minimalist way in the end.

this, switch Saturday and Sunday

yeah because the only possible way to lift is to do one exercise or one hundred. fucking retard. not everything has to be extremism, there is a silver lining.

I hate it when people say "BRO I STARTED DOING THESE EXERCISES AND I BLEW UP BRO"

No you didnt nigger, you got a temporary pump doing fluff work that has a net-result of 0 gains. You literally look the same.

>Do bench and chins
>Spend the next three hours doing curls and forearms
It's what I do

Look at the subtle off white coloring, the thickness of it