Do you really need fiber to shit? I'm highly skeptical you actually need anything like that. I'm wanting to try a diet that mostly consists of meat and dairy.
Do you really need fiber to shit? I'm highly skeptical you actually need anything like that...
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>Got hemorrhoids 3x
Eat fiber or your asshole will regret it.
I went carnivore for a month and i didn't have good shits. They were loose and seemed to happen within an hour of every meal i ate, which flared up some mean hemorrhoids....
So i started having some straight psyllium husk powder 1 hour after each meal and BOOM God tier shits. Only 1 a day.. nice log that slides out easy. Also added back in some apples and bananas here and there.
I'm pro fiber, especially pure plain psyllium husk powder (and not that metamucil shit.. that shit is 30% additive chemical flavor bullshit)
nigga just eat your oats
>sweet potato
>oats
>bananas
>apples
>beans
This message has been brought to you by your colon. Your colon: We just want good shit.
EAT YOUR FUCKING OATS
EAT YOUR FUCKING FRUIT
EAT YOUR FUCKING VEGETABLES
STOP BEING A LITTLE BABY AND FALLING FOR MEME DIETS YOU SEE ON THE INTERNET
Ever heard of “muscle fibers”? Meat is full of fiber.
Why do you think lions and other Carnivors have no trouble shitting?
No you don't need fibre to shit. Your body will obviously need to adjust at first, so your first couple of shits might be weird, but after your bacteria/body adjusts youll shit normally ~x1 a day.
No fibre crew
Because their bodies are fundamentally different from ours. Carnivores and omnivores have different needs.
>eat your oats
Dropped. Oats provide no nutrition other than just bloat your stomach up. Eat Oats And Die
Learn how to read.
>their bodies are fundamentally different from our
>provides no source
>gets BTFO by source
>"learn to read"
hmmm vegans not even once
Seriously user, try to read my post again. This is getting embarrassing.
Humans are carnivores.
Debunked by lifetime vegetarians
Which is why their mouths start to water when they're hungry and smell fresh fruit and berries.
All humans would choose meat over fruit/berries
Vegetarians eat animal foods.
Who either eat supplements or animal products other than meat.
>All humans would choose meat over fruit/berries
All humans are enticed by the smell of fresh fruit whereas true carnivores like crocodiles don't even recognize it as a source of food.
If you were starving and I offered you fruit you would absolutely accept it. A true carnivore wouldn't.
Of course I would accept it. I am starving. Lol? Humans thrive off animal foods, and do not thrive off plant-foods.
Dogs like fruit. They’re carnivores. They just can’t eat starch. Some humans can eat some non-resistant starch. Omnivores can digest meat and all sorts of starch. Pigs and rats can eat cellulose, for example. Herbivores can only eat plants. Meat actually hurts them.
Humans are starch-tolerant carnivores that probably adapted over a couple million years from generally herbivorous animals through scavenging and then hunting.
>Of course I would accept it. I am starving. Lol?
Would a crocodile accept it? Would a hawk accept it? Would a cheetah accept it?
Dogs are omnivores.
IF YOU EAT RAW MEAT YOU'LL BE FINE.
IF YOU EAT COOKED MEAT, YOU'LL BE PLUGGED UP.
why is he so based
I eat cooked meat and I'm fine.
>Would a crocodile accept it? Would a hawk accept it? Would a cheetah accept it?
Humans are carnivores. An animal that eats 30+% of it's diet from meat is a carnivore. A lion is an obligate carnivore.
They would probably accept the meal.
>Dogs are omnivores.
Lots of new research is saying this is wrong, and dogs are carnivores. Many people feed their dogs only raw meat and they thrive, look healthy, have a healthier coat, more energy, than their omnivorous pets.
Dogs are not omnivores. They’re pretty much all fat and sick from the shitty kibble they get fed.
EXCUSE ME, I MEANT MY STATEMENT FOR A HIGH LEAN RATIO.
>An animal that eats 30+% of it's diet from meat is a carnivore
Baseless unscientific claim.
>They would probably accept the meal
Show me some examples of lions, hawks, sharks or other obligate carnivores actively foraging for vegetable matter. Prove that it happens frequently.
>Lots of new research is saying this is wrong, and dogs are carnivores
It's all bullshit.
>Many people feed their dogs only raw meat and they thrive
Anecdotal evidence.
That says a lot about the quality of industrial dog food and nothing about the natural diet of dogs.
As a matter of fact, dogs do actively seek vegetable matter to eat, although it's not their primary source of food.
>rectum: capacious
muscle fiber refers to the structure of muscle tissue, which is broken down by your digestive system. Dietary fiber refers to non-digestible material from food-primarily plants, that your digestive track just passes.
You absolute brainlet
You're flat out wrong.
Ps dogs are only sick cause the breeding has fucked them up and fat cause they don't need to hunt for food all day. Same with humans.
HONESTLY, BEING VEGAN ISN'T BAD IF THEY WOULD JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND NOT TRY TO PUSH THEIR AGENDA. IT SEEMS LIKE THEIR DIET IS 20% VEGGIES AND 80% PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE SOCIALIST FEARMONGERING INDOCTRINATION.
>Baseless unscientific claim.
No.
en.wikipedia.org
"The diet of a hypercarnivore consists of more than 70% meat, that of a mesocarnivore 50–70%, and that of a hypocarnivore less than 30%, with the balance consisting of non-animal foods such as fruits, other plant material, or fungi."
You are so retarded. Arguing with plant eaters is so tiresome and is like arguing with a mentall ill person.
>Show me some examples of lions, hawks, sharks or other obligate carnivores actively foraging for vegetable matter. Prove that it happens frequently.
Show me examples of where they don't. Prove that it doesn't happen frequently.
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>It's all bullshit.
No it isn't. Literal doctors and veterinarians are saying dogs are carnivores. Who are you to say it is bullshit?
Wolves are carnivores, dogs are carnivores.
>Anecdotal evidence.
Feeding a dog plants versus feeding a dog meat and seeing the dog be happier eating meat and you are dismissing that fact. Lmao.
This is wrong. Look at the contents of dog food kibble, and the negative reviews about it. A dog that gets plenty of exercise and eats kibble is always more unhealthy than a exercised dog who eats meat.
I find that when I eat a lot of fiber I hold my shits for 2 days and get IBS, whereas when I eat more animal fats and less fiber I have nice shits once a day in the morning. What the hell?
Because less fibre and more animal fats is your natural human diet.
You're not supposed to eat a lot of fiber because you get constipation, eat less of it and you'll be fine
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STOP TELLING PEOPLE NOT TO BE VEGAN
PEOPLE SHOULD GO VEGAN BECAUSE THEN THE PRICE OF MEAT LAYS LOW
>The diet of a hypercarnivore consists of more than 70% meat, that of a mesocarnivore 50–70%, and that of a hypocarnivore less than 30%, with the balance consisting of non-animal foods such as fruits, other plant material, or fungi
Humans are part of the last category, meaning that less than half of our diet is meat.
Do you finally recognize that humans need vegetable matter to survive? Do you know what "hypo" means?
>Show me examples of where they don't
There's no need to disprove a baseless claim.
They don't do it unless you can prove otherwise.
Your video also has nothing to do with anything we're discussing. Who mentioned cooked vs raw meat?
>Literal doctors and veterinarians are saying dogs are carnivores
Appeal to authority.
Dogs can digest vegetable matter and will actively include it in their diet given the chance, because they're omnivores.
Frogs and snakes won't because they're carnivore.
>Feeding a dog plants versus feeding a dog meat and seeing the dog be happier eating meat and you are dismissing that fact. Lmao
The dog will be at its best when all of its needs are satisfied, and it is therefore provided with meat and vegetables.
WHAT IS PRICES GO UP?
Selfies belong to
>Humans are part of the last category, meaning that less than half of our diet is meat.
Do you finally recognize that humans need vegetable matter to survive? Do you know what "hypo" means?
Hypo means below. Hypocarnivore is below mesocarnivore and hypercarnivore and obligate carnivore. Makes sense to me.
I never argued humans are not meant to eat fruit. Humans obviously eat fruit in season. Although we get the bulk and majority of our calories and nutrition from animal based products.
>Humans need vegetables to survive
Nothing I posted, or you posted, or any source I ever read has hinted at this being true. Stop pulling facts out of your ass.
Humans need animal products to survive. Vegetables are not needed.
>inb4 no we don't
Breast milk is an animal product.
>Who mentioned cooked vs raw meat?
I wanted to show you a dog eating raw meat. Because they are carnivvores
>Appeal to authority fallacy
You have to explain why it is a fallacy and why it is wrong to appeal to authority. You cannot just name the fallacy and leave the argument at that. There is obvious benefits to listening to experts and authority on subjects of their expertise.
>Dogs can digest vegetable matter and will actively include it in their diet given the chance, because they're omnivores.
And how much of their calories in nature come from plant matter?
Hypercarnivores eat other carnivores. This is mostly confined to fish and fish-eating populations.
Humans are obligate carnivores. There are nutrients in meat that we cannot get without careful supplementation. There’s nothing in plants that we can’t get with meat. We need 30-50 mg vit C a day, which is about what’s in 4 oz of fresh meat. More actually inhibits repair (see study about high dose vitamin C and muscle growth) of damaged tissue.
>Humans obviously eat fruit in season. Although we get the bulk and majority of our calories and nutrition from animal based products
That makes us omnivorous.
>Vegetables are not needed
We need potassium, vitamins and fiber contained in fruit and vegetables to survive.
>inb4 no we don't
You still think you're arguing with a vegan or vegetarian? You're a lost cause.
>I wanted to show you a dog eating raw meat. Because they are carnivvores
Any omnivorous animal will do the same, from bears to ants.
>You have to explain why it is a fallacy and why it is wrong to appeal to authority
Being a doctor doesn't make you automatically right. I care about facts, not titles.
>Imagine thinking a dog, or even a human, can get their daily calories from plants in the wild
Calories are only part of the reason why we consume food.
>That makes us omnivorous.
No it does not. I literally linked you sources saying what it means to be a carnivore. You are just spewing incorrect facts. Eating fruit in season does not make us omnivores.
>We need potassium, vitamins and fiber contained in fruit and vegetables to survive.
All in low amounts, low bioavailable amounts in fruits and vegetables. We do not need plant fiber to survive.
All nutrients and vitamins for survival, and to thrive, are found in animal products.
>Being a doctor doesn't make you automatically right. I care about facts, not titles.
Of course. But research backing it up with facts, data, and information, also incorporating they are known experts in their field gives them validity. You cannot claim "Fallacy of authority" on anyone with authority. Then you can dismiss the entire world. Authority has merit.
>Calories are only part of the reason why we consume food.
And nutrients, and vitamins, all found in animal products.
>No it does not. I literally linked you sources saying what it means to be a carnivore. You are just spewing incorrect facts. Eating fruit in season does not make us omnivores.
Hypocarnivore and omnivore aren't mutually exclusive.
The same site you linked lists humans as omnivorous creatures.
>We do not need plant fiber to survive
It's still healthy.
>All nutrients and vitamins for survival, and to thrive, are found in animal products
Fruit and vegetables are the best sources of potassium and vitamin C. Avoiding fruit and vegetables will easily cause deficiency.
> research backing it up with facts, data, and information, also incorporating they are known experts in their field gives them validity
I don't see any.
You've presented the authority status of the researchers but not the data itself.
>It's still healthy.
So is fiber necessary for survival, or is it just "healthy"? You are moving your goalposts and arguments all over the place. Again, no sources.
>Fruit and vegetables are the best sources of potassium and vitamin C. Avoiding fruit and vegetables will easily cause deficiency.
Vitamin C is found in meat as said. Potassium is found in meat.
Avoiding fruit and vegetables will NOT cause deficiency. Avoiding animal products WILL cause deficiency.
Fiber is not really healthy. It interferes with nutrient absorption, causes constipation (two general classes: soluble and insoluble, one speeds gut transit, the other slows it, without looking it up, do you know which is which?) putrifies in the gut, feeds gut bacteria arbitrarily (c diff. in particular loves fiber), and makes you have to poop a lot.
You don’t need much vitamin C (50 mg a day) and your body is really really really good at conserving potassium.
You're an idiot, OP. Quit being a pussy and eat your goddamned vegetables.
Based
You can shit without fibre.
But it's gonna be very loose and you'll be shitting and wiping for a long time.
Just eat some carrots and oats and get that 30g of fibre each day.
Not true at all. No fibre doesn't make your shit loose.
This is solely my own experience but when I did zero carb for a while, I had solid log shits, came out easy and required little to no wiping. Once every 2 or 3 days. Never had any problems with either my rectum or my guts.
Ahmed, please
based 3d thinker
Some, but not as much as you think
Japanese actually eat a relatively low fiber diet but have very low colon cancer, and good shits based on the porn I've watched
No you dont need fibre, your intestines move stuff through on their own.
>meat only diet
SQUATS AND OATS YOU FUCKING NEWFAG NIGGER!
But oats tastes like shit and make my body and stomach feel icky :(
kek
While I haven't gone full carnivore for date I can say it isn't that bad, you will go to bathroom less often and pop rabbit turds, but it's pretty clean, at least for me.
!!!
BASED
let the normies die
>Humans should eat horse food.
What could go wrong?
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They're really not. Cows and ? They're really different from us (4 stomachs vs 1 for humans)
Lions and wolves have one simple stomach, just like us. Do Lions eat a lot of vegetables?
This 100%.
Veganism is made up 100% of SJW nutjobs who rage at normal people because we want to be healthy. A self harm cult obsessed with people who don't want to join their sick society.
Just try It and see what it does to you, probably nothing good, but thats the best way to find out
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Ever heard of polymer Fiber? Eat a nylon shirt a day for optimal gut health
Hey, if humans _need_ vegetables, fruit and plants, how do you explain inuits striving while eating purely animal based diets?
Fiber is a scam. Just more shit you don't need for you to spend money on and put in your body to help supplement all the other shit you're eating that you don't need and your body can't even properly digest.
tried carnivore for a month.. slept horrible, weaker in the gym, sex drive went way down. I did however, have the "mental clarity" some people find on keto.
Went back to eating stiill eating all kinds of meat, vegetables, fruits, tubers and feel better overall.
They survive, yes, but their average life span was 50 years or so, it drastically increased when introduced to a wider variety of food
Amerifatts can survive on kfc and skittles, but that doesn't mean its healthy
Don't do it, I did it for a month and lost like 2 pounds, could barely shit the whole time, when I resumed a normal diet my guts hurt, I was on the toilet for 2 days
Goats do it and they shit like champions
Eat your veggies, fatty
I've been drinking exclusively raw milk for like a 2 month now.
When I first stared my shits were rabbit like and very hard. Two weeks in my shit were soft, easy, normal and regular (once day in the morning). Fiber seems overrated to me.
not user. thanks for breaking it down like that. merry christmas
he looks like he genuinely stinks
(you)
>balding
>based
pick 1
Just his hairline dude had it his whole life
Enjoy your painful shits, hemorrhoids, constipation, and eventual cancer.
well we are more of omnivores, just like it was argued up in link chain 'herbivore vs carnivore AND omnivore'. and are you mixing up preferring something to being only interested in it?
Agreed. Veganism is much healthier. Go vegan and feel pure natural health!
Deer eat birds.
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Crocs eat fruit.
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Where is your god now, son?
Those videos caused many deaths, when the vegan Dr. snapped.
No
Fiber is indigestable
He eats rotten meat, raw eggs and doesn't drink much water, so his breath at least must be fucking foul
He has a beautiful shiksa gf who loves him, so it's doubtful he has rancid breath. You are probably projecting your foul vegan breath onto a healthy natural carnivore.
Thats not how fiber works, It doesn't get digested itself, but It helps with digesting other things
Why is this thread even still here? Humans being OMNIVORES is settled science, there's nothing to debate, and if you ignore the SCIENTIFIC FACT that you NEED to eat vegetables and fruits in addition to grains and meat/dairy, then you're just being stupid.
>I don't like vegetables so I'll find an excuse not to eat them!
Stop being a baby and eat your goddamned vegetables, you faggot. Do you want to DIE? That's how you KILL YOURSELF. You'll ruin your body if you eat only meat and dairy. Stop being stupid.
but none of that is true.