Today is my off day. I've got a bottle of cheap whiskey and a lifetime of regrettable, crazy decisions behind me...

I don't know. Not sure I fully understand. I don't resent them or anything. I'm just invisible and they're too busy looking. Plus their standards are generally sky high thanks to tinder and social media inflating their egos

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Have you tried generally more conservative avenues of securing a mate? Like a church or summat like that?
If you're anywhere from the West and above the equator then I definitely understand the search is hard.

I'm smack-dab in the middle of gen-y over here ('91 to be specific). I don't disagree that we complain a lot, we do. More than older generations? I don't know, I don't have any empirical data to back that up. I meant that I just immediately tune out when I hear the generational complaint. Again, not because it isn't valid, just because its so damn cliche. Still, I guess that's typical of someone my age.

What is an NPC, exactly? I mean that genuinely. I'm still not totally in the know about this meme. I thought it was meant to describe anyone that isn't a right-winger or anyone that's older, but the way you use it makes me think it could be something else. As for starting up conversations with women, it just takes confidence. Where does confidence come from? Experience. Get out there and make an effort to chat up some new chicks. Even if you fuck up, it's still experience and that experience will eventually give you the confidence to go out and swing your dick around. It ain't that bad.

Yep, USA, in hyper liberal new england. I mean, maybe a church would work. Then again, kinda like I said before, I don't even know what to say. I've forgotten how to be attractive. Ive had less than 5 girlfriends in the past but Im 32 now. Maybe I've never been attractive and it was all just a fluke or maybe something was wrong with them.

And I feel like an NPC because nobody acknowledges me. I'm just kind of a body. Walking through the grocery, everyone looks right through me. I am Average Man. I work at a repair shop and I have canned lines which absolutely doesn't help my situation.

And the NPC meme highlights how the left is using actual literal bots to push opinions and narratives on social media. It also shines light on how so many of those actual people have the same canned arguments and lines and don't express much individual thought. The funnyman on the tv told them the orange man is bad.

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'91's around my sister's age. I think she has the same reaction as you. However, since she's very normie she has a more vitriolic response whenever she feels her gen is being lambasted.
Now I doubt what you mean by "tune out". Do you just close the thread/article or just glaze over the criticism? Because honestly that's what I also do when I think my gen's being assaulted for shallow reasons.

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And I feel like an NPC because nobody acknowledges me. I'm just kind of a body. Walking through the grocery, everyone looks right through me. I am Average Man. I work at a repair shop and I have canned lines which absolutely doesn't help my situation.

That's so normal that I'd argue it makes you the total opposite of an NPC. To feel that sense of isolation, of being totally on your own, is a very human thing.
And the NPC meme highlights how the left is using actual literal bots to push opinions and narratives on social media.

Holy hell. That makes so much sense. Thank you for clarifying that for me.

I just roll my eyes and tune back to whatever song is playing in my head at the moment (this time it's (youtube.com/watch?v=xwOyfqUOFLg). I won't respond with vitriol. That's just silly. I get annoyed as fuck but I don't wish ill on people. It's just that the whole "kids these days" meme has been played out for literally decades, and Gen-X'ers got shit talked to hell and back, so for them to be shit talking millenials is just annoying. It's like they have no self-awareness or memory of the recent past.

Where I'm from, church-inclined people (both female and male) would claim that it's not about how attractive you are, but how committed to serving God you are. But looking at the males, I'd say it's more about their financial stability (i.e. capability to provide betabux).
Yes, the females are definitely less slutty in their prime but they still look at males as piggybanks when it comes to relationship viability.
>hyper liberal new england
No fucking idea what the meta is out there. Fuck, my heart goes out to ya user. I really hope you find someone beyond your utility as a piggybank.

Fucked up my greentext. The following are supposed to be greentext:

>And I feel like an NPC because nobody acknowledges me. I'm just kind of a body. Walking through the grocery, everyone looks right through me. I am Average Man. I work at a repair shop and I have canned lines which absolutely doesn't help my situation.

>And the NPC meme highlights how the left is using actual literal bots to push opinions and narratives on social media.

>I won't respond with vitriol
Definitely classy, but you know today's culture. If you can't come up with a witty comeback you're shit. There's really no indication that ignoring IRL shitposting IS a witty comeback and you get relegated to a pushover status. Which somehow irks me. I should be over that shit I know.

Are you a psychologist or something?

Nah, you're right. IRL shitposting is the current norm and ignoring it doesn't make earn you any credit. Similar to how ignoring someone talking shit in the lunchroom in high school didn't give any credit. If I wasn't projecting anything before, I sure am now!

Nah, I'm a shit-eating IT peasant. Not even really one of those. I sit alone in a gigantic wearhouse six days a week, watching over an inventory that nobody in the world would ever want anything to do with.

Well that makes me feel a bit better. Thinking back it's always kinda been this way, from highschool, college, and beyond. Not even sure what to do. I need to reignite a fire or passion but I don't have any callings. Had a brief fling with a girl last year and I've never been the same. Don't know why. Really depressed?

And you're welcome.

>betabux
Yeah I think part of my depression comes from that's just how women are as a species. Consider Briffault's Law:
>the female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.

Unless you offer status or the betabux, you're nothing. And I think because I don't offer status as a simple repairman, and I'm just making ho-hum money (certainly enough to live comfortably and fund a whiskey problem) I don't even have that. I don't have anything to offer a woman and I think that's where a lot of this comes from. It's good to type it out.

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> I need to reignite a fire or passion but I don't have any callings.

Do you have any particular interests? You should find somewhere to act out on those. I was obsessed with e-sports growing up (way before e-sports was even a thing). Got out of it for several years after high school and was severely depressed the entire time. Started drinking and doing drugs to fill the void. When I started back a few years ago just playing SSBM, it totally put me back in balance. I don't know how and I can't explain it. All I can say is that when you find something you're truly passionate about, something that makes you excited enough on its own to get you out of bed in the morning, that's when an incredible new day comes. You will slowly but surely rediscover your lust for life if you dig around enough and find that hobby/thing/whatever. Doesn't have to be e-sports, obviously. It could be something like competitive floor-sweeping ffs. As long as it makes you feel alive in some sense, it's a good start. Obviously, you wouldn't wanna go this route if the only thing that made you feel alive was murder, but I think you get the idea.

Happy birthday anonny

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>lunchroom
God fuck I was spared from that shit. What's your lunchroom meta mate? Any instance you've temporarily went on top?

Where I'm from the status AND betabux is directly linked to how big your house was. It's like there's an arms race to see who has the biggest house in the least time spent or something.
Does any of the women you've tried dating consider relationship sustainability beyond immediate money-generation?

Thanks user. I've become totally weak over the years. Hopefully the thread isn't as weak as me and we continue to talk.
How's your day user?

>Lunchroom meta

I didn't get fucked with that bad. Thankfully, I went to a massive school with way too many people. It was easy to avoid riff-raff. I got shit-talked all the time in general, though, because I was a really annoying, outspoken beta, and people don't like outspoken betas.

I absolutely agree with you, but I can't think of anything. I have a few hobbies and enjoy bombing around in general, but I haven't been grabbed by something in a long time. I keep working on trying to find something but I dunno what to do.
I'm not very competitive because there's some autist out there who does have the knack for whatever competition it may be and they wipe the floor with me. Bleh. That was a waste of time.

Interesting.. Makes perfect sense. I kinda don't even want to approach girls, what with all the metoo kavanaugh bullshit. Call a man a creep or rapist just for looking at you.

Looking back, the first girl thought I was amazing cuz I lived in the dorms and had my own (parents') car.
Second girl mistook me for some sort of chad and still messages me ever so often despite her being married.
Third girl was a total mystery. No idea why she was attracted to me. Tons of mutual friends and good company?
Fourth and fifth girls were students from my dad's grad program. Pretty sure they were after my status, dating the Chairman's son must have been a boost for them. Especially the fifth girl. She just treated me like a handbag whenever we meet up with her friends. Shut up, look good, and be full of money.

I dunno, it's a catch 22 if you think about it.

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>I was a really annoying, outspoken beta, and people don't like outspoken betas.
In my experience it was these types of people who were remembered the most. As long as you weren't harmed in the process of being one, I think that was somehow fine..?

>metoo kavanaugh bullshit
Definitely not from the West so I don't know when this shit started.
Did this meme really trickle down to the normal women in your area, or at least the women you knew?

From your descriptions of the 5(4?) women I think you're at least a 6/10 overall (including looks and financial responsibility).

>I think that was somehow fine..?

I ain't sweatin' it anymore, broski. I can laugh about these days. Shit seems surreal in retrospect.

I think you'll find your way, bud. It's just gonna take some time. I know it's not what you wanna hear, and it's gotta seem cliche, but you really should try to limit your time on here. Not just on Jow Forums but Jow Forums in general. I don't mean to be the preachy older dude but seriously, Jow Forums is horrible for your mental health. I only come here every so often, and usually only when I'm wasted. Jow Forums is that friend you have that you know is a smart, reasonable persona deep down, but that has way too much shit floating around on the surface to be taken seriously by the majority of the populace. But what do you do when the majority of the populace is fucking ignorant? Talk about a catch 22.

(Seriously, get out while you're ahead)

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I dunno how 'real' that meme is honestly. Just seems like one wrong move, one single regret, and boom: you're suddenly a rapist. I've been a hermit and haven't talked to any girls so I'm not totally sure.

I truly don't know what my numbers are (I need to hit the gym and get some color) but I think I'd agree with you on at least a 6. I walked through the store the other day and thought I objectively looked better than the majority of the men there.
Just need more money, better clothes, and physical fitness probably. Haircut.

Bleh, sucks how my friend has had his girlfriend move in with him 8 months ago and she acts like an actual woman, not a man with a vagina. She helps him out, offers/fetches him food and water and generally hangs out and plays video games with everyone. I am so fucking envious. I'm stuck with feminists who did shit all for me.

mfw

Nah I appreciate it. I don't spend much time on Jow Forums beyond /vg/ when a new game I like comes out. And you're right about the catch 22. Today is just a slow day at the shop so here I am, visiting with you fine folk. I just need to stop drinking and playing video games until Im ready to fall asleep.

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It does make sense now to just be a simple repairman and not aspire to be someone big than to gamble security and be accused of rape out of nowhere by someone who doesn't even have passable evidence against you. But you won't get many women if you're "just" a repairman... Women really are putting men at a tight spot now eh.

>Shit seems surreal in retrospect.
Were you the '91 user again? Who is now in IT?
I would hazard to say it's not that shitty in the industry nowadays but how do you feel about it?

Yeah, I'm the '91 user. It's not a bad industry by any stretch. I tend to just shit on myself a lot because I'm a failed CS guy. Was supposed to be a software engineer by now but I'm too shit at math to finish my degree.

Have you tried your hand at other industries?
>failed CS guy
You didn't graduate uni or...?

Didn't graduate. I've worked in several other industries. I know software development is where my heart truly is. I plan to go back and either finish my degree or go to a 2-year CC and get a quick associate's so I can start coding for a living. I know it's what I want to do for a living. I'm just kind of... stuck at the moment, for lack of a better word.

>Didn't graduate
Same, but vastly different major, man.
Just hang in there, you're smarter than me.
>stuck at the moment
Goddamn fucking same man.
How many anons are like this? Decent educational background but just the lack of papers hinders your career growth.
I really wanted this day/night/morning to be comfy but reality man...

I'm flattered but don't give me so much credit. I really am the textbook example of a fuck-up. You're probably doing a lot better than me. Keep your head up.

youtube.com/watch?v=RAEy4y7J0S8

You do have a job tho.
The only thing I'm good at is surviving at around $37 (US) every 2 weeks AND still keep sane.
Hey did you ever want to create vidya tho? What would it have been?

>Hey did you ever want to create vidya tho? What would it have been?

I always wanted to make a Final Fantasy game, especially when I was in jr. high. I played Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced and even though the story telling in that game was hella cheesy, it made me want to be a video game dev. Ironically, years and years before I ever even knew how code worked, I was writing story lines for FF games. They're all horribly corny (I found them in a binder years after I graduated HS and threw them all out). Video games were my first love but the harshly pragmatic view of my father, who has been coding since the early 80's.

I feel incredibly selfish field all of these questions about myself. You're the '86 bro, right? Tell me about growing up in the 90's. I have an older cousin who was born in '86. I idolized him growing him. He was my actual god, as cringy as that is to admit many years later. What was it like coming of age at the dawn of high speed internet? I'm all ears.

There's an unfinished sentence in there. Whoops! The booze is really talking to me now! Shit, she's singing at the top of her lungs.

Should read:

>Video games were my first love but the harshly pragmatic view of my father, who has been coding since the early 80's convinced me to go another way, more toward enterprise development.

every single second i wish for death to come to me. everytime i fall asleep i hope i never wake up. i am done with life. i just want it all to end

I understand those feels. The only question I can ask is "Why?". Why do you feel those feels? What happened to make you feel that way. Take your time explaining. I'm here literally all day (and most of tonight). Tell me what it is that makes you feel this way, if you feel comfortable. If not, I understand.

>FFTA
I avoided the hell out of that game ever since I discovered that particular knife that gave you the ability to steal weapons to make you OP. Was it the Cinquedea?
>I always wanted to make a Final Fantasy game, especially when I was in jr. high
Same, but being absolutely a brainlet at math I knew I only had a shot at "designing" characters through drawing... and writing a story... which as you would expect from a teenager, extremely cringey (looking back at it)
>What was it like coming of age at the dawn of high speed internet?
High speed internet wasn't a thing in our country until within 5 years ago. That will definitely give you an idea where I'm from.
But let's say you meant late 90's-2000's.
I was one of the few who had access to the SNES and Genesis in the late 90's, and even then I would imagine (now) that Western boys were already tired of these systems. We were emulating on the SNES using those 3rd-party things you had to use floppy discs for. You copy the ROM onto the disc and kinda hope the disc doesn't go shit on you. The source of that peripheral also used that in their local renting shop (which also housed N64, PS, etc.)...
In that renting shop the most popular games were SotN, Guardian heroes, KoF95, YuYu Hakusho Final (SNES)...
Early 2000's we moved to another neighborhood where I no longer had access to the console gaming shit. Counterstrike wasn't yet a thing but boy did Diablo 2 and Starcraft take off on the LAN. I ended up playing D2 till the present year. Starcraft is just a novelty game now (WOW). When CS came up it just fucking dominated. Nobody knew about Half-life. Or Baldur's Gate. Around this time you had the PS2 launch. Everybody was just a CS nut or you were just a fucking pussy.
>(cont.?)

I'm so lonely op. I'm not even that bad looking. I just can't get girls to talk to me, leave alone actually interested.

I'm not OP but how did you even approach women?

Sheesh. D2 til the present year... What did you even do? I didn't play D2. Played D1 back in early '05. What was there to do on D2 for so long? Please, tell any other stories you have. That's fascinating...

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I can't find the motivation to do anything and its ruining my life

They somethimes start talking to me in School, this happens rarely though, and when it does I tend to screw it up

My heart's lost and my dick's soft.

These things mean nothing to me.

Modern QoL upgrades really made D2 play easier.
>Please, tell any other stories you have
As long as you will tell us of any stories you might have in your younger years, I will, user!
>Played D1 back in early '05
I think I played a little bit of D1 around that time but after finishing it once I never played it again.
I was too used to the D2 pace.
>What was there to do on D2 for so long?
I suspect I'm an autist. But since internet didn't matter in my country that decade, everything D2 was played OFFLINE. You can confirm I'm an autist. I spent 8 years heavily playing D2 offline and only once did I get a Stone of Jordan, which is the supposed online currency. I hope you didn't do anything as worthless as that.
College kicked in and I was basically mired in emulated games that time (aside from playing D2). PSX games were HEAVILY pirated. This is not the era where ROMs and ISOs were a common thing. The norm was to use (pirated) discs and run them on an emulator. Since the discs were heavily used (and creating disc images weren't really a thing as well), nightmares frequently happened - discs exploding in the drives as they were spinning. That happened to me once. Not sure if that happened to anybody you knew. Hope it didn't. So unless had access to disc image creation software, you were stuck playing pirated CDs and you can't play 4-5 hours straight.
The only other PC game I personally got addicted to was an offline version of Phantasy Star Online. I literally knew nobody that played this game.
On the "normies'" end, though, CounterStrike still reigned supreme. Frozen Throne kinda became a thing, but got shut down. Command and Conquer Generals certainly was a thing. RTS's definitely were, back then. Fucking Battle Realms, mate. But no one withstood the onslaught of CS.
And then Ragnarok Online happened. And this is not even in the era of high-speed internet. A lot of people wasted their lives on this shit mate. >(cont.?)

Are you still in school?
What do these girls approach you for?
How do you screw it up?

>I am

>school related stuff or actual smal talk about our lives

>not taking the initiative I think, I'm afraid to push it to far and ruin my chances or get humiliated

>smal talk about our lives
Details?

>I'm afraid to push it to far and ruin my chances or get humiliated
To avoid this just ask them simple probing questions and let them talk. They will reveal shit about themselves without you having to probe further, and them talking will make them feel closer to you