When I look at the people (including not-dyels) in my gym and see what kinds of weights they lift...

Correct.
But the 1/2/3/4 in a year meme is accurate for some people. I brought 2 of my friends into lifting finally after 3 years (current stats are 1,87/3/3,7/4,75) and the shorter one was faster at that numbers than I was (I'm 6'1, he's 5'7). He needed 5 months for 1/2/3/4 for which I needed 15 months. He even had way less bodyweight, he reached that numbers at fucking 160 pounds. But he's one in a million and has a incredibly fast recovering.
The other friend of mine is 6 feet and he has the same problem I have. Eats a shitload, hit muscle groups twice a week, still need forever to reach 1/2/3/4 for one rep.

Not the guy you reference, but that exists.
Me for example. I had always a hard time on squats and the bench, but the first time I ever deadlift I did 130 kg for 5 reps.

I have naturally an extremely strong back, before I ever lifted people assumed I work out because my back was huge. My dad has the same kind of body. Everything average except back and traps and he never worked out with weights in his life.

Fucking bullshit you can bench 2.5 plate and only OHP 40kg. I could OHP 40kg when I was benching 60. Maybe if your ROM is 2mm.

>415 lbs
>novice number

I didn't know 40k Space Marines post here. HAIL THE EMPEROR!

my gym bro deadlifted 335 his first time ever, without ever training deads or legs. He could also bench 355 at the time, but he still did it.

Ye, stuff like that exists, but it's usually one in 10 million and those guys usually end up being successful powerlifter or bodybuilder.

Before he took steroids, Arnold looked after one year of lifting better than 99% of all serious training lifters after 10 years for example.

This, most people don't do programming. No progressive overload. No wonder they lift shit. For most people going to the gym is an activity they do because they think it is healthy. They don't have any goals.

>1/2/3/4 for one rep
that's not 1/2/3/4, 1/2/3/4 is for reps

That sounds fine user. First time I tried deadlifting I picked up 3pl8 x5. Granted I was a competitive swimmer up to a year before then but its not unusual.

However there are a huge number of e statters here. Whenever anyone makes a claim without video evidence (video not picture), I would recommend taking 15-30 percent off that claim.

I got to 1/x/3/4 in six months

Struggle massively with bench due to my ape arms
I dont consider myself gifted
Thwre are some freaks out there

Not him but it is intermediate weight

Even natty women are capable of deadlifting it in reasonable timeframe with sumo and straps

T. 4plate for 12 reps here touch and go

Most (95%) of people at gyms don't know how to workout, I see dudes come in with their friends and choose exercises randomly and weights randomly, they lift these same weights for months on end. Even the roidlets aren't as strong as they look because they work out the same way

No shit dude. Everyone here claims to have a 7 incher,6'0 tall,at least 265 bench, 405 diddy but the same number of people make tfw no gf posts. If you ask dudes to self report on any topic the numbers will be greatly exaggerated. Someone could have hit a really high bench at a bulking period on his best day but he ended up cutting and can now bench 70% of that since he's smaller. Which number do you think he'll post as his bench in here?

They all e-stat. Most retards just make up some number because if they think they can do 10 reps at say 40 pounds so they think their 1 rep max is 120 pounds and then they chuck in a bar etc..etc... They just make up some bullshit to make them sound good.

When there is anything competitive men talk absolute shit. Look at all the men you hear that are "slaying" it on tinder when all the stats show otherwise. The amount of guys ive encountered in my time that have lied with what they have done with women is rather laughable.

Dudes will lie about these things in real life while looking at you in the eye. I don't know why OP didn't realize that they might do the same on an anonymous forum

hes probably 18 and naive

I used to give people benefit of the doubt. Now I know better

I 'member being 17 in my first year of college living by myself for the first time and like OP. I was lost,naive,trusting, and innocent but I miss those days

Then you are weak as hell. The only reason people get big deadlift numbers is because they are usually fat.

If you are a competitive anything then that's extremely unusual.

The issue is people have no idea what the average looks like and how for normal people they aren't going to be anywhere near these numbers people post.

All that happens is big lifters are trying to show off to average people and average people feel bad for being so far off the apparent norm.

What we could do is support people lifting and not be huge assholes. Impressing normal people is easy so there is no need to do it here.

>be me
>just start out lifting with a plan at a commercial gym
>squat lmao1.5 plate
>gym trainer comes up, says "wow, that's quite some weight"

I know that it's their job to complete people and stuff, but I don't feel like that should be a weight that deserves mentioning.

In non fit speak can you guys tell me wtf is "3pl8" I get that it's three plate? But wtf is it.

Not 300 pounds, but 315 pounds, so 140-142 kg.

Thanks happy xmas

i weigh 76 kgs and DL 3pl8 (140kgs) for 2 reps

is that OK?

Says who? There's no official standard.

People also forget here that some people's goals don't revolve around weight on the bar. It's already mentioned that some lift just for health, or to support training in a sport. I personally am weak af because I'm a drug addict who relapsed twice this year. I lift for recovery and mental health, fuck being a powerlifter.

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Most people on fit boast professional strongmen numbers. They are e-statting. Most look like shit

Or they are roiders and lie. One posted once his body and called everyone a lazy low t dyel that didn't achieved a 3 pl8 bench in a year. I asked him how much muscle mass he gained in 3 months, he said around 15 pounds, I said that this is evidence he is a roider, he called me a coping faggot, others also, I posted the study, suddenly no responses whatsoever.

Don't live up the expectations of e-statters and lying roiders.

3 pl8 bench isn't profressional strongman level. 3 pl8 can be achieved by any natural. Most college people easily can bench 3pl8+

I agree absolutely, I myself can bench 300 pounds, but I trained a bit over 3 years for it and trained especially for strength. But it's straight up not possible to lift that in a year, maybe if you are an exceptional genetic outlier and below 6 feet.

True. I can ohp 95 kgs but can only dl 205

lmao
meanwhile on plg isley and other shits who dedicate their lives to powerlifting struggle hard to hit 3pl bp for one rep

>Most college people easily can bench 3pl8+

You went to a very different college to me user

Giving that idiot the benefit of the doubt, I think he meant collegiate athletes

I meant people who work out. By college you would be in your physical prime and working out for a couple of years, so you could bench 3 pl8 easily by then if you aim towards it.
If you can't and you've been aiming for 3pl8, then your doing something wrong

In a year from starting lifting? i would agree 3pl8 is 99% impossible

Normies are terrifyingly weak. Like, can't bench the bar weak. Having said that, everyone on Jow Forums is 6'7", benches 400+ and is 9.5 inches flaccid. So you know...

You just go to a shit gym

>tfw only 6'4, bench 250, and have a 6 inch placcid dick
:(

But I have a ~1500 total and there's dudes in my gym that btfo that (some at lower bodyweights). Your gym just sucks.

how are long legs good levers for deadlift lol

Most of the time people with long legs have long are, which are a good lever for deadlift, and people with short legs have short arms. (Slightly) long arm short leg master rac

It's because they don't have a program and lift 1.5 times per week.

>Everyone who doesn't try his 1rm at supended rope neck extension until failure is a fagoot, the /thread/

My OHP was at like 30kg, my first time deadlifting I got up to 170kg.

You're kind of an idiot talking out of your ass.

>1/2/3/4 is for reps

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I think that's definitely going on, but most people don't push themselves for strength at the gym.
I look like I lift, but I'm not huge by any means. I can outlift almost anyone at my gym, even the guys that look like they're clearly roiding. I think this is because I specifically focus on strength and push my maxes up as often as I'm able, while nearly everyone else focuses only on aesthetics and just showing up to do the sets.
I have a feeling this can be said for much of Jow Forums as well.

That's right, 1/2/3/4 is for reps, anyone who says otherwise is a coping dyel. I mean look at this fag, even he does it despite his shit form - youtube.com/watch?v=Yllt9fvAB-A

1/2/3/4 is for 1rm. If you can do it for a single rep you can do it. Anything else is DYEL gatekeeping.

1/2/3/4 is, and always will be, for reps. It is for a program 5x5.
The only people saying 1/2/3/4 is for 1RM id DYEL's coping.

i bench press 355 but can only squat 280

>Most college people easily can bench 3pl8+

kek

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How many reps though? Wouldn't you have to specify, ie 1/2/3/4x5 in your example? What if you hit x5 in everything but squat but can hit OHP and bench x5 higher and can hit one and two plate x7/8 easy?

I always though 1/2/3/4 benchmark was x1, just made more sense

10*10 German Volume Training ofc

I've always assumed it's for 5x5 because it's supposed to actually be a challenge right?

1/2/3/4 is novice you should be there in like a year max of lifting.

I was there my first day in the gym, I thought most were

>this dyel thinks a year of lifting is acceptable for 1/2/3/4
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
holy shit i cant believe the weaklings on Jow Forums

1/2/3/4 is and always will be for a 1rm because if you can do it once you can do it.
t. 2/3.5/5.5/6.5

he probably means benching with 2inch ROM and a spotter that rows the weight up...

I said max for novice numbers you mong look at who I was responding to.

retard you said you should be there in a year max. but thats way too fuckin much. you must be a real hard dyel to think that. 6 month tops weakling

New York sports club in Whitestone, ny is 50% dyel zoomers and grandpas 25% serious lifters, in their 20s to 30s 2pl8 bench at a min, 25% strong old guys that used to be serious but now just rep 3 pl8s, and then there is that negligible school shooter element that benches 1.5 pl8 while staring off into space listening to bizarre music and acting surprised when someone interacts with him. Haha what a loser

Haha he's such a loser... hahahaha

3 plates (each side) + bar, so [ (6*45)+45 ] = 315 lbs

1/2/3/4 is for 5x5 you brainlet

I go to a uni gym full of hapa chads & everybody squats 2-3 plates

Goobers lift lightweight.
It took me 3 months to get my deadlift above 4 plate (190 lbs body weight)

I convinced my buddy to start working out and he hit 5 plate deadlift within a month and a half while he was at 200 pounds body weight.

That being said we both have athletic/military background and he was artillery so he moved heavy shells
Not E-Statting, I was actually confused as all hell at how the fuck he was able to pull so much in so little time

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>I go to a uni gym full of hapa chads

Sure thing, tenda.

>he counts the bar

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