Whats your opinion on parking lots?

>there are people who don't pull through spaces for an easy exit without having to back up once they leave
Heh morons

That isn't a problem of parking lots, that is a problem of shit city design. You can have good design and still have parking lots. Bringing up California is one of the stupidest you can do, of course it is shit there, but it is far from representative.

Car ownership is a mistake. There should just be cars waiting for people to get in and drive. The world would be so much simpler and emissions could be regulated more efficiently.

People going into eternal debt for their cuck-mobiles, while also causing cities to expand outward to unsustainable sizes are signs that things are very wrong, and will continue getting worse.

Parking lots are a massive waste of space in any city. And California is very representative of most US cities these days. The exceptions are older cities to the East that predate the automobile and cities like Portland, which actually have some decent planning.

I agree with this user. The parking lot is really one of the worst things late stage capitalism has done for us. In most European cities you can walk or take public transportation anywhere. But in Burgerland if you cannot drive you die. So they need more cars, roads, and lots. More environment gets destroyed to make a lot for a strip mall and the car deaths skyrocket (they are worse than gun deaths and cancer). I don't know why burgers hate walking so much, with 1/3rd of the country obese you would think that would be a #1 priority

ultimately a godsend for the future of urban green spaces, as, they can be reclaimed far more cheaply and with little disruption to life than any other urban development

imagine if there were no parking lots and everything was units stacked together. eco-engineers post-transporation revolution were going to lose their shit

reminded of how, when the turks conquered Constantinople, they simply painted over the christian art instead of destroying it. the result was that it was immaculately preserved when it was uncovered centuries later.

parking lots are that. temporary "holds" on future open/green spaces.

maybe a good place to grope wimminz

Gets me erect

California is not representative except in the fact that it makes up a huge portion of the US population. But if you live there, then you deserve all the shit handed to you. I've never been in a city with traffic even 1/10th as bad as LA. That place is a shithole of proportions unheard of, with the freeways so overburdened you'd make it home faster on a bike than a car. Parking lots are only a problem in cities so overburdened that the infrastructure can barely sustain the sheer mass of people.

True robots only park at the back of the lot in the empty area.

Every city with a growing population in the US will eventually look like LA if their solution to growing populations is to build outward.
Making roads bigger just means more people will use them, it doesn't help with congestion at all. The only viable long term solution solution for cities to avoid becoming like LA is to cut down on the amount of people driving. More parking lots and roads doesn't fix the problems of too many cars, it actually makes it worse.

They are symbols of white male oppression perpetrated on women and minorities. Parking should be made illegal.

my college tickets people for doing this. fuck america

they are racist, terribly racist

this, even if I really like cars 99% of people don't need to own them. You could just rent them if you need to move things or need a car for holidays. It's insane than most normies NEED to have a car. A fucking ton and a half machine just for moving inside a city 99% of the time. These days I'm riding my bicycle every day and it's insane how dangerous cars can be. And how wasteful they are, I can go alsmost as fast as one in my bicycle because there aren't any traffic jams or parking involved.

>Making roads bigger just means more people will use them, it doesnt help with congestion at all.
This is 100% true. And normies dont get this. They spent millions of dollars adding extra lanes to Los angles freeways, one of them is even double decker, they extended freeways (such as the 210 out eastward in the last 5 years). And the traffic is worse than ever. Becuase if you build more capacity more people just come and more people cummite from further away. Cars are ineffeienct . Building more roads does not fix that.
I will repeat.
Building more rods does NOT help congestion.
You need subways that run on time and a police force empowered to beat homeless that try to ruin them.

Here's a better question, what do you think about cars? Glad you asked, I believe they've become the jew's best friend and we should move on from them. Think about it, an expensive machine that requires expensive fuel and expensive maintenance designed to, in most cases, bring you to work for mister shekelberg. We could have a fucking dope public transport system but of course that wouldn't as profitable now would it. "But but I like driving and how it fee..." no you don't, shut the fuck up, every single limitation has been created to accommodate the biggest retard on the road and all the excitement of having a big engine under your control is gone through excessive regulation, fear of the police and the sheer amount of traffic in any city. Add to that the social status bullshit and you've got yourself the perfect tool to drain a hole in the pocket of every citizen, while discreetly avoiding better solutions.

>just walk 60km for groceries bro that would be way better for the environment

Another kike trick, just haven't figured out how and why.

More info
gizmodo.com/6-freeway-removals-that-changed-their-cities-forever-1548314937
But believe me, if you add more freeway, people just use up the capacity and makes everything worse. If anything you should profusely limit freeways and add more local living spaces. It is very counter intuitive but it actully works.

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>Live in Europe
>Walk 5-10 minutes to the store

>Live in the USA
>Drive 15-30 minutes in traffic to the store

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this, Americans are subhumans. No wonder that they are so fat if they can't walk because their Jewish overlords want them to consume fuel to move everywhere. How the fuck can't you do something as basic as buying groceries without driving a car?

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You only have that logistics becuase you chose to live that way, and if you live in a nonrueal area I bet there is a local store near you but you just have to go to the brand name gigs mart instead of the place with fresh bread. Once you try to live without a car you find how easy it is. Or just get an electric scooter for grocery runs

>just walk ten miles carrying 50 pounds to feed yourself goy
Theyve already won. Those dastardly jews cucked us. My state even spent an absurd amount ripping up an old light rail system.

Jews didn't push cars though, American businessmen like Henry Ford and John D. Rockefeller pushed the car and gasoline meme. The "Greatest Generation" trained boomers to think cars were the best thing ever, and boomers kept buying so many cars that it was cheaper for cities to build out than to build up.
All of this was caused by the white man.

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>Once you try to live without a car you find how easy it is. Or just get an electric scooter for grocery runs
I didn't get my driver's license until I was 26 and I live in an area with a combined population of around 125k-150k people. Living without a car makes your life a living hell, especially in the winter.

In any decently run city there are marts every few blocks. You just stop in on your way home
>50 pounds
Stop buying packaged crap.
And becuase it is on the way home and convinet to get in and out of you can stop 2 times or more a week to pick up greasy items, so each load is pretty small.

Are you really this dumb? I cant spend 4 hours walking every day to feed myself. Not to mention nowhere is made for walking, so you would be walking on the shoulder for 6 miles with cars going 50 an inch from you the whole way.

>In any decently run city
Most cities are not decently run, especially in places where land is cheap. You also seem to think "city" implies a place with hundreds of thousands or millions of people in a small area.

You are just weak then. Or live in a cucked area. Here are some non subhuman Finland people waiting for the bus in snow.

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>in the place I live this is true so it must be true everywhere
Think for once, man. I live in a college town and this fantasy still isnt even close to true here.

Greasy=fresh
What part of
>you choose to [live that way]
Did you miss? Yeah, without a car you have to be a little smarter about where you live but it is doable if you start from that standpoint

Im guessing theyre not standing there waiting for the half hour I would have to. Its truly a hardship to wait for busses that come every 5 seconds

You really should at least glance over the thread user. You're making yourself look like an idiot.

And I really didn't mean for that post to be offensive.
What I mean is that most of the thread people have been talking about how horribly designed cities are in the US. Comparing a city in the US to a city in a country that has existed LONG before the automobile doesn't make any sense. Of course the cities designed for feet and carts is going to be more walkable than a city that was designed for automobiles.

Yes it is, you just are blind to how to do it. You are such a brainwashed pleb you think buying big boxes of cereal that were made 2 years ago in a factory is normal, you think drivig to supermarkets that take 45minutes to get Teresa and get back is normal,
You think the suburbs are some mini estate paradise when really the suburbs combine the worst parts of the city and the worst parts of the country with the benefits of neither.

>just decide to live 10,000 miles away from your family and the only people you ever talk to in order to pick your choice of transportation, goy.
Welcome to the Midwest, idiot.

I doubt I even have to refute a word of this myself. This is just embarrassing. What part of me being in this thread makes you think I dont hate all of those things. Its annoying having people use their own living situation to pretend any of it is a choice.

>every few blocks
>on the way home
oregonoli lol. unless I'm willing to pay for $1 ramen packets & apples, and $3 cans of chili from bodegas, I got a good 5 miles out of my way to go shopping proper and I'm in a city of ~700k. We got public transportation but that's 35 mins one way and I can only buy what I can carry with my hands and back.

It's as plain as day to see why inner city poors that rely on public transpo stay poor. u either go to the good stores and burn time that you probably can't afford to burn because of work, to get two handfuls of grocery bags, or go the convenience route and get charged out the ass at a bodega gas station. Even a rural redneck with $1500 pos pickup will do much much better than some nig or spic in a city, even with cost of living aside

Actually I think the main problem is our public transportation in a lot of places is overrun with homeless and crazy and foreigners, which creates a feedback loop of less and less normal people running them, so they get less funding, and become even more unsafe and rundown so even less people use them, so then get even more unsafe, etc.
It is perfectly possible to have in US cities public transportation that is considered suitable for middle class people that is also clean and runs on time. If you just beat up the trouble makers.
Americans dont like to think of themselves as normal plebs though, Americans think of themselves as temporary embarrassed millionaires, so they never support public projects

>Americans think of themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires
Most accurate description I've seen to date.

45 minutes? I got a whole foods 7 miles from me and it takes 10-15 minutes to get to since we don't have traffic like the city. I didn't even have to drive 45 minutes when I lived 32 miles from the city, jesus user

lmao. so transparent you can't drive.

Who cares about parking lots or cars anymore. Can we talk about real issues like the plight of phoneposters? They are being forced to see these vile ads RIGHT NOW!

I drive to work, drive at work, and then drive home.
If you removed the car from my life and let me walk my life would be much better. Go to Europe some time. You'll see the light.

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No one can drive well. Thats a fucking fact, but even if it werent, I dont like being forced in to it.

Busrider detected, I'll bet you're a yurocuck too.

It's insane than most people need to work for more than 8 hours a day just to own a car they don't really need and to have a life-long debt to afford a fucking house. We are the real slaves and not the medieval peasants who had a comfy job tending to their crops. Now everything is stressful, just commuting to work is pure madness.