"haha I've got plenty of time to figure things out"

Duh Balance, unless your work is enjoyable. You're gonna need an escape for work. What i meant is at 30, you're expected to settle down. The race to 30 is financial security. Do you even enjoy your profession, or do you just hate your boss/coworkers or working environment?

Dude do you have any family members that could make a false letter of reccomendation. Also go do some volunteer work it looks good on the CV. And it's gonna help you meet people.

Go to a ghetto job agency and get a job loading and unloading shipping containers, it's pretty comfy actually.

yeah idk how real people make it in this world, looks are the most important thing.

Just go apply at a temp agency. That's how I got my current job. No interviews and your work history doesn't matter.

>Duh Balance

You might be surprised at how many workplaces don't see things the same way. It took me the course of my first job out of college to shake off way-too-long work weeks.

I agree about setting financial security by 30; I don't agree with the conventional model of settling down. Not unless you want to. That's the same sort of societal pressure that produces unhappy marriages and divorces, along with people droning along in offices they hate. Financial security is good; what you do with that security should be up to you.

Do I enjoy my profession? Ostensibly (financial market research). And truthfully, I'm more of a case of someone who bit off more than I was ready for. Finance is brutal, but I only saw success stories going in. Threw down far too much too soon in work environments run far too ragged.

Trying to find better, but this is an industry already under pressure as of late.

>letter of recommendation
>for a fucking stocking position

roflmao no. no manager is gonna read that shit. 99% of the time they're not even gonna check your sources.

dude its a stocking position. they rotate people in and out of that faster than your mom's womb. nobody got time to fucking run a navy seal background check on you and triangulte your position

Honestly man, I don't think you've missed out on much. The world is primarily wage-slaves and college-slaves. Stressed and hurried. Working dead end jobs and dead end relationships. We're free, I just want a car to live in. To start a small business online to make passive income, just enough to support my self. And maybe buy a cheap house some day.

That's the way to do it user, and no you're not too late.

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its a jobseekers market right now. You don't need experience or history to stock shelves, tell them you were taking care of family members if they need to know.

Passive income is the name of the game, especially if you can live a minimalist lifestyle (to an extent). Finding something that motivates you (paid or not, doesn't matter) to give purpose and guidance, along with enough $ to keep you afloat and going forward, isn't a bad lifestyle by any means.

Empty dollars building in a bank account that's never touched only gather dust.

how does this happen? I never had a job before, and I got hired at the first place I applied to, as a cashier.
I only work part-time though.

idk I'm just going to apply for stocking shelves part time at night and see what happens. I'm going to go with this advice and say I was helping take care of family, since it's partly true.

I think it matters when you start working. I started at 16 so I can handle quite a bit without it even effecting me physically or mentally. My older brother however didnt even try going out and working till he was almost 35 and was miserable with a petty security job, but by your 30s your body starts slowing down and gets set in its ways so for him sitting 8 hours and keeping communication with three other workers was too much for someone that never tried sooner.

>Competencies Required
>Interpersonal Skills

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My father had a PHD in Law, but was a financier. He went to Asia and Africa to create projects or help build them. I had moved to Australia for 4 years and it was the best time of ny life, really changed my whole outlook on life. What i am trying to say is a change of scenery sometimes helps to rejuvinate enthusiasm in life.

Also when you write your resume, write it how your employer wants it to be (Job Specific)

Ok, I've applied for working from 10pm to 6am. I'm going to try walking to the store and see how long it takes to commute if I do get hired.

That's not a bad idea. The Northeast (US) is a boiler.

How'd you move to Australia? I know roughly how work permit processes function, but I haven't lived overseas since I was a kid, and that was an hour south of Tokyo (and Japan's about the only country with an even more insane work environment than the Eastern Seaboard).

>brainwashing works better when you're younger
woah

I was a student. But there's plenty of info on reddit or just to see people's experiences living/working there.

Just as an FYI Sydney has horrible traffic. I loved Adelaide it was amazing, feels like a small town. But it's a city.

Couldn't have said it better myself. You're basically expected to predict the future at 14 years old.

Agreed.
False. I started working at 17 and working regularly makes me suicidal to the point of wanting to drive into oncoming traffic, even a decade later. I gave up on that bullshit at 23. The only thing that sort of helps is working from home, and even that I can only take part-time without wanting to kill myself. Not working and having free time is the only thing that makes me happy in the world. I still live at home, but I'm far happier than when I had a career and a girlfriend.

But why not South East Asia. Plenty of job opportunities for western people. Especially Thailand, less demanding work culture, similar or slightly lesser pay. More bang for your buck. You could live rather luxurious there in comparison to the US.

Good stuff. Thanks for shooting the shit, user; gave me some stuff to think about and look into.

>anything I dont like and struggle to do must have ill effects

I just turn 28 with everything I want in my life. A big factor to getting all of this was the willingness to get dirty and deal with the bad stuff early in life than do what my brother did and ruin his life being a coward

Youll pay the same price no matter what, its just a question of can you handle the interest.

No problem. Goodluck and hope you find your greener pasture.

Don't really know anything about Thailand. I'm certainly not tied down anywhere; just wouldn't want to end up in a hole like South Africa or Detroit.

Truth be told, I don't know half as much as I probably should about the world, at least as it entails being a professional in this day and age. Spent most of my life in the US; this country's so easy to fall into the familiar routes and forget about everything else that's out there. I guess really that's what I've done.

>All these most likely Americans' struggling to find work when unemployment is so low.
Just makes me work harder to make sure I'm not seen as dead weight .

Words cannot describe how fucked you former NEET's are. I will try to explain this the best I can. You know how its actually easier to lose your virginity when you're young than it is as an adult? Jobs are the same way. Landing that first job is very easy when you're 17 - 19. Work experience is probably the most important factor when landing a decent job. When you're 25 and you have zero, you are in deep fucking shit. I've had employers tell me to explain a 2 month gap in unemployment, I could not imagine having years missing or nothing at all. Don't listen to trump or anyone like that telling you its a good economy right now, the job market is brutal (for jobs that actually pay anything). You have generations of boomers that didn't save or invest right that are still working, hell the director at my job is like fucking 70 years old. He should have retired 15 years ago but he won't, meaning the guy behind him can't move up, and the guy behind that guy can't move up. For you young college kids that are about to graduate, good luck. Even if your degree is in demand, what the employer is going to do is realize you're young and desperate for that first job and he's going to lowball you with a starting salary. Like 35k a year starting for a job that should be paying 50 - 70k. He knows you'll take it because you're young, naive and desperate.

Any way yeah you NEET's are beyond fucked. You're going to be living with your parents forever or homeless.

Oh and for you guys that want to go back to school later in life, you're very fucked. Employers want someone that is young. Because they can get the most out of them, pay them the least and they rarely have health problems. Age discrimination is very real in the workplace.

I can't really understand people who think like this, i mean, i used to think like that when i was 17, but as soon as i turned 18 reality hit me in the face like a fucking brick.
Now i'm a 20yo who is afraid of tomorrow and who's convinced that if he doesn't fix his shit by next year, his entire life will go to shit.

I have lived in 6 countries and i hold 3 nationalities. I am part Thai and i been to many countries. I study here in Bangkok Thailand. My budget monthly is 1,200 usd. I have fiber optic internet live on the 35th floor of my apartment building, with a gym, infinity pool overlooking the city skyline. You get the idea its pretty affordable. But i am a student and you are a professional, your budget will be way higher and your gonna afford things that you wouldn't dream of in America. Thailand is really safe at worse a scam or mugging. Nothing really violent happens unless you're an idiot.

All my life i dreamt of living in America where my dad was from, but i kinda see the west as a depressing place and here i appreciate the relaxed feeling the locals give to people.

Ive always thought about going to thailand but I'd have to figure out a way to make $1000 USD a month or so online

Not too late to get a monkey job or train to be a butler if you're white for Chinese Companies and Billionaires.

lel retard, nobody is going to have a job soon enough with technological unemployment. just LOL at your dreams of having a 70k job for the rest of your life. soon everyone will be a neet, dumbass normie FAGGOT

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You are a useless NEET , you will never amount to shit. I'm a financial consultant and cleared the 70k mark years ago, I'm only 28. We are still 20 to 30 years away from having robots do an legit jobs. You're going to be stuck living with mommy for most of your life. Sucks to be you buddy.

>Work and progress, building savings until this unknown time of chaos
>Be a neet with no savings or progress in life until this time unknown of chaos
Everyone losing their job would allow those with savings to be even more powerful you idiot.

Can't speak for Europe, but the US can absolutely be a depressing place, yeah. Less so on the West Coast, imo, but I haven't been back there since the tech boom blew up San Fran, so who knows now.

Fair point on the budget; 1,200 is less than my current rent by a decent figure. I'll look into it; going abroad is certainly something worth the time researching, but facing facts, sticking here in the so-called safe lanes has led me here, so hell, may as well take a wide look around to make a well-informed decision. Definitely not the type to jump rashly, but something to think about. Thanks dude.

Your budget is fine, if you're not living in the middle of the city. Plenty of bigger apartments just less nicer than mine for half the cost i pay 500 usd per month. Plenty of people from Europe and America retire here to live the rest of their days at a higher standard.

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I started working and going to school in my 30's. I had zero issues. Hell I even lost my virginity and got my first gf at age 32. It was hard doing all that yeah, but it still would have been equally as hard in my 20's. I mean I'm not really much different since then, other than looking older.

Just try to be a happy/content/positive guy despite everything sucking I guess. People/women/employers/whatever will notice it. Oh and take care of your body and health if you can. Worked for me anyway.

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Automation is going to be one of, if not the biggest issue millennials and gen z face in the future. So many jobs will be erased (especially low-skill ones) and those workers will be absolutely fucked.

Right, but what can I do to make that $500? I guess I could save like 10k and figure it out.

Interesting if true. You're like an ultra late bloomer. I respect that. But I don't think the average loser can put it all together at that age.

either you pay for long ass commute or you live in an expensive area, either way youre fucked, in the US at least.

same. Started part time at 16 and have always hated every minute.

he's talking about living in thailand m8. A studio apartment in the US is like $700 - $900 a month, in thailand its around 150 USD, 100 if you can live without A/C.

Theoretically you could live with your parents for 4 months working a bullshit low end job, save as much as you can, then go live in thailand for the rest of the year. Come back and repeat.

>i'm a hard working slave
happy for you

>average wages in developed nations plummet due to unemployment
>crime increases
>Tax bases decrease, business income decreases
UBI isn't going to work for normies who want to travel and buy shit. Even people who don't spurge will still be unable to enjoy their previous materialism unless they have lots of savings.
Coupled with pressure from governments and businesses to keep income/taxes I doubt it's going to be a quick process.
Worst case scenario is a basedlet green like situation where industry sectors are replaced gradually and the homeless/unemployed are "removed" from society.

500 usd for rent but i live in a high rise with pool and gym. I live in a good location with 711, shopping and 2 train networks nearby. But if you live further from these things its really affordable. And i am not talking redicuosly far. And there are other cities like Pattaya and Huahin with plenty of shopping and things to do with cheaper rent.

The endgame, if not ending violently, will probably end up something like "Fifteen Million Merits" from Black Mirror. Stratified society with a tiny rich class and everybody else poor in baseline mandatory jobs, living in shitboxes provided by whatever gov't-approved monopoly is running that sector of the economy.

Market capitalism will likely give way to something halfway between centralized planned economics and cartels. Keep everybody doing something (ie, the bullshit low-impact jobs) and forcefeed them with low-cost nothings to distract them. The majority of humanity, essentially invisible and even more meaningless than now.

Likely an unavoidable fate except for the very rich and above. Better to not have kids.

Yeah I'd be there tomorrow if I could 1. Find a reliable way to make $500 or so online and 2. figure out that visa issue Americans have, thing you have to go to cambodia or some shit to get one every month

In the mean time though I'm working, saving, learning and trying to experience life. If that is the future might as well have memories.

A thai meal at a mom and pop resteraunt will cost you about a 1.5 USD.

I can't see UBI ever happening in the US. I think there will be a resurgence of "company towns" there.

Wake up early every day for a week 6 am. go to bed at 9 pm . what you need is a Little self discipline, if you try and fix one thing at a time you will be successful. If you look at your life as a whole you will fail. just look at these two faggots they think there life is great because the are on TV , but they are still getting trolled by a dog.

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Its pretty fucked that the school system still to this day drills in the need for a good education when in reality, what employers are looking for these days is experience and nothing more.

Search up digital nomads or foreigners living in thailand on youtube.

Yeah I can see that too, fuck that shit

Can't argue with that. No real point losing oneself in the future; you'll just end up missing the present.

It's more about the long-term plans of things, even on a theoretical level; I doubt I'll live long enough to see the real endgame of global economic decline. Something to think about when family planning or whatnot (inb4 hurr you on r9k whatchu talkin bout kids)

user everyone is a slave to something otherwise you wouldn't be here

>2018
>still not self-employed
That's a yikes from me my dude

Thats the goal for me in Thailand.

Would love to. Being a self employed digital nomad requires you to have an extremely high IQ, which I do not have. At best I could maybe teach english to chinese students through skype or something, saw a couple of guys doing that out in cambodia and it was a living.

wouldn't suck to constantly have to do border runs

Teach english in Thailand. Combine that with free lance writing jobs?

Eh depends where you live. If you're close to the border why not?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

what the fuck am I going to do with my life? Every moment We waste away and get older and times flying by. What do We do?

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This desu. The only ambition I have is falling in love, but that feels too far away to even dream of.

the only point to life is just wait for the ai apocalypse and prepare for it as best as you can. personally im a virgin and castrated myself in anticipation of space-jesus returning and fighting the evil ai-beast-demon-thingy, but its honestly anyone's guess as to what will happen. im a 28 kv and its the only reason i have to stay alive. please dont get me wrong, i daydream about ending my consciousness permanently on a daily basis

waiting for the apocalypse is all you can do

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Imagine this but not even on easy mode you dumb roast

working really isn't that bad, but i'm sure you wouldn't know.

>>"haha I've got plenty of time to figure things out"

No you don't! In the blink of an eye you will be 40 and you will be like wtf happened. No joke I'm 40 and it seems like 20 was a really short time ago. Also the older you get the faster the days, weeks months and years seem to go by. If you are going to do something don't now don't wait.

>don't now don't wait
Do it now*

What exactly would you need to lie about user? Stockers are literally retarded half the time. Those are usually the best ones.