Do's and donts of talking to a psychiatrist

dont tell them you're suicidal no matter how much they budge or else they will call the cops and you'll be trapped in a mental hospital for a while.

>tributing my waifu
The fuck are you on?
How can someone be this retarded or sick?
Im asking because i spent 7 years as a neet hikki and i didn't harm myself physically
You might have something worse than the usual autism we see here everyday

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>tfw the state has ordered a psychiatric evaluation for me
>plan to be honest as I can
>don't know if they'll institutionalize me or just give me SSI
Maybe they'll be able to fix me.

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you are going to be "evaluated" so you can be "dealt with" aka SSRI prison to ruin your body, mind and libido so you become even more like a zombie and anything you do out of line = you're crazy

if you go to that appointment, your life is over. trust me.

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My psychologist interview my mom and she was asked if I am hiding anything on my phone or computer

Why would she ask this?

Does she assume I am a pedo or something?

I am pretty angry now that she would assume that.

Just because someone is a 30 year old HHKV NEET hermit it does not make them a pedo what the fuck

why angry if you have nothing to hide?

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Because it proves my point that when you are already down people will still shit on you and make assumptions about you just because you arent a normie

well? why conform to them? walk out and tell them to get fucked like your head tells you too. but you won't

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user
Listen to me. Do not tell them the truth. Its tempting I know. At first it feels good to get it off your chest, it feels like youre taking control and trying to improve yourself. You have to resist this.
>suicidal thoughts
NO NO NO you cant say this.

Upon first meeting her I mentioned suicidal thoughts to my Nurse practitioner. But I clarified that they were not plans. Later on she asked if I owned guns, and I decided to tell the truth, that I do. She put me on some new add meds and different antidepressants and i left. The whole meeting was about 12 minutes. Nothing seemed abnormal about it and I gave her no information that I hadnt already told my social worker and general practitioner. I made a follow up appointment and drove home.
I turn onto my street and I see a police car in my driveway and my dad talking to a cop that i hadnt met hes almost crying. My dad explains basically that theyre nogunsing me. My dad had already given him some of the guns and ammo and I had no choice but to get the others (all just old milsurps and inherited target rifles, no elliot ar15 type shit or handguns). They also took guns in my house that are owned by my father and grandfather. I dont know whether the cop had his siren and lights on but he was at my house for around 30-40 minutes and my neighbors clearly saw the cop, perhaps me and the guns as well. This officer was polite about it and handled it well given that hed never met me and didnt know the actual severity of the NPs guess that i might be suicidal (other than lying to me that no other cops would know).
By your law your shrinks/doctors etc cannot tell anyone about what you told them unless they believe you are a threat to yourself or others. The police however immediately told literally every cop in the force (including one that is extended family to me as well as my coworker at his second job) and then they called my parents who were at work and rushed home before i even arrived.
1/2or3

I don't want to be caged away.
I just told him I'm fine and I don't know why I asked for this meeting and he let me go.

Same here but she assumed i was gay my mistake was to say i wasn't
>you talk like you hate girls user?
>i kinda hate them
>so you like boys better?
this is when i made my mistake
>no i like girls but not girls like that
she assumed i was a pedo after that i should have faked being gay
Now she is gonna check my pc for "innapropiate material"
Good thing i wiped all of my loli just left some normal stuff to play along

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>Yeah, I get free medical anyway.
Still their job.

>murica
>muh gunz
>cries

say : if you take my guns i'll kms

2/3
The cops interpreted the call to mean that I was a potential Elliot and some treated me accordingly and still think that and acted like I was a criminal.
My parents havent treated me the same way ever since. I cannot have lighthearted conversations with them, everything is somber. I think they have lost all hope in me and think im going to kms. You never realize how helpful it is to have your parents believe in you when they shouldnt until they stop believing in you. Its crushing. How can I bet on myself when even my parents dont.
I had to tell my best and only friend what happened because we had made plans for him to visit my house, cause he'd never fired a gun before. shooting was pretty much the only reason he was gonna visit so there was no way to avoid telling him whether i wanted to or not.
my grandfather became increasingly pissed at me for not 'returning' the guns i had borrowed to him. (Oh, did i mention that the next day the cops called my dad and had him sneak into my grandfathers house to steal his other guns and bring them to the police because they were concerned i still had access to them. my dad actually fucking did it too. they didnt even tell me or my grandfather. i didnt find out till like a week later)
therapy became useless because the red tape stopping them from being allowed to return my guns became the major topic of the sessions. I also of course had no choice but to never ever mention any negative feelings, anxiety depression or anything out of fear that there would be more repurcussions
2/3
fuck off man. i dont care about the guns by comparison to all the other shitty things that happened. Ive hardly touched them much less fired them since ive gotten them back. just seeing them feels kind of depressing, a hobby i once enjoyed is tied to this really shitty memory.
if youd actually read what ive written youd get that the guns themselves are not what im upset about.
how to get locked up 101

what hanime is that

Don't tell them anything

i think that's goblin slayer

you should give that psych a call and nonchalantly tell her how you were on the road to recovery and that she has basically ended your life, don't actually kill yourself though just make her realize what she did to you

2/4
going to therapy and telling the truth was the worst decision i have ever made.
im afraid to ask my doctors for any prescription changes cause i dont want them to think theyre making me depressed, even if they are. I cant hope to make any progress because I cannot admit to any shortcomings or negative emotions that i would like to work through.
i lost quite a bit of work time and $ from having to go to tons of extra therapy and unnecessary meetings with the unsympathetic nurse practitioner. my social worker told me he disagreed with the NPs assessment and decision to call the cops (again, she had just met me for the first time, for 12 minutes. she didnt even contact the social worker who knew me much better before calling the cops.). my GP also thought nogunsing me was a big overreaction and they tried to help me get the guns back ASAP. the nurse practitioner repeatedly lied to me and attempted to stall, making up all sorts of nonexistent excuses and pointing the finger at other people and saying that its the cops/social worker/shrink ive never met who i need to contact in order to get the guns back.
after much wasted time all summer i got the OK and met with the cops to get them back after 3 months. one of the cops giving them back basically acted like I was a felon who shouldnt be getting his weapons returned. It sucks that they all know because I had been friendly with 4 or 5 of them (theres only 12). one officer had even fired two of my guns before at the field that i shoot. now they probably all think im Elliot.
The guns had been stored in a damp evidence locker in a basement and had acquired a surprising amount of rust for such a short time. my favorite gun had pitting on the bolt. I returned my grandfathers guns to him and that made him a little less pissed. he had thought i was trying to steal them from him or something, and i really didn't want to tell him the truth.

based user, original thx

I have reason to believe that word of what happened has spread around town. because of this i get weird looks from people and customers and every time someone appears to be avoiding me I cant help but wonder if someone told them im a goddamned elliot.
so yeah i got the guns back but the real consequences arent fixable.
I only met the NP two more times ever, then she moved to a different practice. I never expressed any hostility towards her bacause i know it would have been counterproductive and in her mind, she was doing what she thought was right/legally obligated, even if it was the wrong choice.
id really like to change my antidepressants or stop taking them cause theres some really shitty physical side effects but I obviously cant go up to my doctor and say "hey i got my guns back, i wanna stop taking antidepressants".
I really dont want to get political here, but I'm not even a gun nut either. not a NRA supporter, not a redneck, not a prepper. I dont even hunt (im not saying theres anything wrong with it, there isnt) so i havent even killed animals. I dont get what the fuck that NP thought she saw.
Im a skelly manlet, probably one of the least threatening or violent looking men youd ever see.

If that nurse practitioner seriously thought i was going to kill myself then why the fuck did she only think it was worth talking to me for 12 minutes when I paid for a 1 hour appointment? Why were the follow up appts equally short? Why did she think it was a good idea to test new antidepressants and ADD meds on me at the exact same time? Why did she decide to act radically when my social worker and GP hadn't after half a dozen meetings? my most recent therapy appt was less than 24 hours earlier!

SHE JUST FUCKING MET ME!!!

Its so fuckin stupid. After procrastinating it for years, I finally decided I wanted to put some effort in and see if I could work on my depression using therapy and meds and It fucked me over this badly.

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>dont say you plan to harm others
But one of my biggest fetishes/taboos involves me killing someone by tearing out their throat

Is it really that easy to get institutionalized in the States? I ended up in a hospital after a suicide attempt but was let out after they had patched me up because I was drunk when it happened and I told them I had no further plans to hurt myself.

I just feel like I am not worthy and I need to do something for her so I do that, as I feel guilty I dont spend enough time with her or talk enough to her.
she told me she didnt wnat me to hurt myself for her and next day I did it again.

at most the best we can hope for is we will get
on disabilitybux.
already had a hospital emergency evaluation, this one is for a full on diagnosis.
I have had SRRI before and I refuse to take them.

i dont have 3DPOD if this happens but I have loli porn.
>. Later on she asked if I owned guns, and I decided to tell the truth, that I do
australian here so no I dont own guns.

I talked to my GP and they said as long as I dont say I plan to KMS anytime soon they cnat do shit but im still worried.
as an aussie with no guns I feel I should be ok.

thanks for the post bro.
im planning to tell them how I dont like 3DPD anymore and find only anime girls attractive.

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also forgot to mention that my best friend who I had to tell about all this has since basically stopped speaking to me. theres many other factors involved in that but this even sure didnt help and we missed out on what would have been the most recent or final time that we socialized in real life.

I dont own guns for the purpose of killing anything, whether thats hunting or self defense or whatever. Its just fucking fun shooting big loud guns that are pieces of history. It's not inherently political. Its completely unrelated to my world view. And people who own guns who actually are politically radicalized or single issue voters or even consider their guns a symbol of their resistance to government overreach, those people dont deserve to be treated shitty because of their beliefs either. They deserve to be able to seek mental health services if they want to as well. It's counterproductive if those people (correctly) think they will be discriminated against because of their gun ownership.

This bullshit gave me plenty more reasons to want to kms but tbqh, I feel like if I did that that would validate them. I dont want to prove them right. I dont want them to think that I was lying when I said I had no suicidal plans, because I wasn't lying. I dont want to be another statistic that is used to justify other medical professionals over reacting and stigmatizing gun owners and/or depressed people. Hell, if I ever did end up kms I'd probably pick another method just to avoid validating what they did.

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ok... i've been doing this for over a decade. yes it's true that if they think you're a threat to yourself or others they can legally mandate you into a psych ward but that takes time. i can for a fact say don't talk about any pedo stuff because that's a red flag right away. i had a psychiatrist tell me that in confidence because i was young at the time and had a young love interest who i had to ghost on.
>hurting yourself or others
i used to cut and burn myself and i still like to punch solid objects. this is not a suicidal tendency. i even tried to commit suicide twice and told the shrink about it like a year later. hell i've told many care coordinators about it and they just don't think i'm a threat. if you want to talk about hurting someone else just say it casually.
"yeah there's about three motherfuckers i'd love to shoot but i won't do it." and that will open up the discussion for "why" you want to hurt them.
>neetbux
start your disability application IMMEDIATELY! it helps to have a caseworker to support you if you actually go to court to get approved. it will take time. i hate to say it but it took me years of building a case. everything you say to a shrink who types it up will appear in court so be ready to confront that shit. i was honest about my condition. by the time a 3rd party psychiatrist read out loud my diagnosis it took the judge less than 10 seconds to say "approved".
depression, anxiety, agoraphobia, alcoholism, previous opiate addiction, anhedonia, insomnia.
it all adds up in the end. good luck, be safe and take care of yourself.
oh and also key words they love to ask is "do you have any plans?" and if you do have a plan to harm yourself or others, don't talk about it unless you trust this person. you'll need a lot of rapport first.

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this guy is right to a point. those medications will really give you a brain fog so be prepared to take them and deal with it or just toss them and lie about taking it so you can keep talking to someone and pursue your ssi case.

thanks man, im already on NEETbux but its been 2 years of treatment so i will go to welfare office and ask.
I am already in process for disability but its been years.

thanks for good post.

as much as id like to express how much she ruined my life at a time that i was already rather depressed, think about it. If she recieves a call from someone who is technically not her patient anymore she could interpret it as a 'threat' which means i would get noguns'd again at BEST. probably locked up realistically.

she never apologized or expressed any regret or sympathy verbally or in her expressions. She just looked at me with this "it just business" attitude, listened to my carefully worded explanations of all the shitty things that have happened to me as a result of getting noguns'd. A regular person capable of empathy might have said "sorry, I genuinely thought I was helping you by removing a threat to yourself. I tried to do the right thing and I did not foresee all these consequences." but no, she just wanted to get me out the door so she could get the next patient in the door and prescribe him some overpriced unneeded meds. tbqh, considering that she knew so little about me when she noguns'd me, it seems equally ridiculous that she decided that she would return my guns because at the time she chose to do this, I had spent less than 30 minutes with her in my entire life, most of which was spent discussing ADD medications and side effects.
its equally odd that she'd decide "ahh nevermind this kids aight, probably not the next randy stair, i should re-arm him."
See, the thing is that its not just the guns. I dont know how Aussie law differs but I never stated I had intentions or plans to kms to anyone. but they still acted on it and broke doctor patient confidentiality. They indirectly notified my parents, extended family, random people in my town, and my coworkers. That is far worse than losing a couple rifles for a few months. So i would read up on what you can and cant say. they dont have guns down under but they do have psych wards.
just be careful user

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No the states uses the same metrics as the western world, the issues is access to lethal means is one criteria and gun ownership is common so some people flag higher. If you don't want to be warded you need to answer yes to specific questions as well as score a certain value on the MSSI.

chemical castration would be the least of his problems

A warning on that though, the metrics school councilors use are lower than proffessional psychiatrists and they are often grossly unqualified compared to a psychiatrist. Telling a school councilor any abnormal thought that shocks is a bad idea.

whether or not you talk to a psychiatrist about one thing or another, you're life is doomed to be failure. That is how we are made. We are made to suffer by the thoughts in our heads. There is no cure for being mentally unstable, and even with medication and therapy the wounds never heal.
>crawling.swf

oh yeah 100% man I took the black pill.
therapy wont help me, all I want is disability money as it has been 5 years I have been hikki and as a bonus I would love some anti anxiety drugs.

I wont be taking crazy pills only ones that help chill me out etc.

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Don't lie. That whole first session will be the shrink trying to figure out if you're a liar or not.

ive been on medication for a while now. It seems to work. You should at least give it a try user. Xanax and valium are not solutions to long term problems. If that were the case you could just be an alcoholic. But thats not a solution either. There are chemical imbalances in the brain that can cause a wide variety of fucked up behaviors. Getting disability is nice i bet, but you cant improve your mental health with money. Ultimately TRYING to get help is better than getting worse. But of course it only does get worse. And again, nothing can take away the traumas, nothing can cure being a failed human.

well since I dont plan to kill myself thiss week or month if I can help it I dont have to lie I guess.

DESU, if they try force me outside or go to these meetings too much I will tell them i cnat handle that shit and will KMS.

i dont really want help, I only am trying quit being alcoholic because how much it costs me.

I just want disability so I never have to leave my house.
I had to leave a few times this month and its driving me nuts I dont want to go outside I cant handle it.

I just plan to KMS when im not comfy anyway, my life is a waste and trying to fix it is an even bigger waste of time.

im on valium as is, if I lived on my own I would be buying heroin online etc and just fuck myself up and burn out.
life is garbage and people around me selfishly tell me to keep playing this game I hate as it would make them upset when I leave.

getting closer by the day

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i believe in you brobot you can do it.
youtube.com/watch?v=SngYwMsxJ4U

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