Is the importance of testosterone overstated in today’s world...

Is the importance of testosterone overstated in today’s world? Obviously high t levels would benefit the average man but are they needed?
>majority of fatass men can live well into their seventies with no major problems
>most high iq nerds are straight up betas who don’t lift and don’t have a masculine bone in their body even though high iq and cognitive functioning are apparently linked to optimal t levels
>the rich men running the country live a sedentary lifestyle and eat shit food

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A degenerate society moving away from the good will reap what it sows in due time

>majority of fatass men can live into their 70s with no major problems
Sure if you don’t mind taking 2 fistfuls of pills twice a day
>most high IQ nerds don’t even lift
True, but people don’t typically take test for brain function unless they’re so low they can’t get out of bed. IQ and test aren’t very strongly linked
>rich people are fat and lazy
What’s new? It’s been like that for thousands of years

The importance of test in today’s society and on this board is mainly due to 2 things.
1. Appearance and performance, you’re a lot more likely to have an impressive physique with higher test. And appearance is everything nowadays
2. Traditionalist values and politics. Guys like to rag on the “low test beta males of the left” and how much of a pushover socmany are. Some also have an autistic obsession with how men should be able to control their family and act as tho it would be better to live in the 1600s

Correct, do not fall for the high test meme. Now grow your hair, start transitioning and chop that peepee off already.

Today's world, sure, but show me a low-T beta who can survive without civilization

What’s with the autistic obsession with having to “survive without civilization”? Is this board full of tards who think the world is gonna end like some 8 year old watching The Walking Dead?

I don't even expect collapse any time soon, but God do I hope for it
Plus there are completely unforseen things that could happen any moment on a global scale like Yellowstone, meteors, solar flares, etc, not even counting local disasters

Wars, famines, catastrophes, plagues, genocides, and so on have all happened before, and can happen again, retard.

>he takes civilization and its benefits for granted

When was the last time people in the first world were affected by a plague, catastrophe, plague, or genocide that affected society so much that we revert into a state of near anarchy where physical strength and testosterone is highly sought after? Thought so dumbass. Quit being an autist focused on “muh post civilization survival chances” especially since most the faggots on this board couldn’t agree on a way to wipe their ass much less figure out how to survive

You ever see the aftermath of a hurricane? And that's not even about surviving, I would just want to be fit enough to help people live.

You're moving the goalposts faggot. No one is describing the strawman world you are talking about. Strength is a virtue and the strong are valued in troubling times. Why is it wrong to be self sufficient?

Yes, I live in SW Texas. Do you think you’re going to have to fight people to survive in a post-hurricane situation?
>fit enough to help people live
How so? Pull them out of the flood currents that can throw vehicles around but you think being a lil high test will save lives? Lol

>no one is describing the world you’re talking about
>that’s literally the conversation I was having
Dumbass.
>”why’s it wrong to be self sufficient?”
>accuses me of using straw men
Kek. Kys worthless faggot.

>surviving without society is not being self-sufficient
BYE BYE

>has never read a history book
kek

>ask for last time the first world has experienced this
>”kek”
Sums up the intelligence of this board, at least the autistic portions of it

Frauding and exceeding the biological is only useful in narrow context, you can be low normal and have functioning and secondary sex characteristics suffer. Outside of a true shortage it isn't a setback.

>not taking the noble savage pill
Never make it

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OP here, another thing people here don’t realize is that testosterone levels fluctuate all the time. Jow Forums likes to point out studies where it says shit like ‘You can increase testosterone by doing X’, but don’t realize that there are also studies pointing how volatile t levels are. There are some fucking studies that say t levels can lower or rise depending on what movie you watch and whether your sports teams loses or wins. Hell, we’re probably all lowering our testosterone by using electronic devices all day long.

I honestly don’t think you need to be high test to build a good amount of muscle

The Holocaust happened less than a hundred years ago and thousands of Jewish Holocaust survivors are still alive to this day.

Katrina was 11 years ago

Yes and would physical strength have helped the Jews? No.

That didn’t cause a prolonged state of anarchy, just a small stretch of desperate struggle. Hardly the scenario I was asking for

>first world problems

In Armenia we are hairy and strong because we have high t and have all seen war.

But also some people are just not built for certain things. Gotta play the cards God gave you