/fast/ - #349 - Ideal Body Edition

can i jerk off while dry fasting?

no you will die

if you have the energy to jerk off while dry fasting you're doing it wrong.

What does it mean if you are not losing weight while fasting. Weighed the exact same yesterday.
You dont have to drink 2L. That was for recipe purposes. Drink so that you aren't thirsty but also not peeing all day.

Starting my 8 day tomorrow. 3 day dry 5 day wet.

I want to get that amount of potassium every day though, so I guess what im asking is, would it be safe to put that same amount of salt and potassium into a normal 16 oz water, and jsut take a drink of it every hour or so with normal water throughout the day

Starting a 20 day today, assuming I make it through without snake juice. Wish me luck fellas

No it will actually accelerate your weight loss. Trust me I'm a physician

>sub 1200 calaiorie OMAD on afternoons
will I lose weight

Since this has been gong on for well over 300 threads now and 6+ months, there must be a ton of people here who have lost 50lbs in 2-3months with pics for proof right?

God I wish that were me
I'd wear lace leggings in your place though ._.

Nope, not one. No one went for that long, it's just everyone halfassing it in these threads and shitposting.

Nobody here has the willpower and self-control to go that long, only OMAW Grandpa had but he's dead.

would it be reasonable to eat on days that I lift and fast on days that I don’t? Trying to cut.

I try not to post more than pictures of my arm and hands on 4channel
Those are eternally skeleton.

Is that you crusader

>Nope, not one. No one went for that long, it's just everyone halfassing it in these threads and shitposting.
i figured

Does drinking cum break your fast?

Swallowing your saliva already does it, so no one really fasts actually.

>Does drinking cum break your fast?
someone else's yes

>start fast
>suddenly don't want to do anything at all
god this sucks. I can't enjoy video games at all like this.

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Prove to me that fasting isnt just a fotm meme and is better than simple restriction for cutting fat.

Nevermind I forgot that candy canes have calories whoops

can i eat chicken nuggets or will that break my fast

NO.

YOU CAN USE A MORE HIGHLY CONCENTRATED SNAKE JUICE, YES, BUT DO NOT POUND IT ALL BACK IN A FUCKING SECOND. YOU CAN DRINK PLAIN WATER IN CASE YOU'RE GETTING HEADACHES FROM DEHYDRATION.
OR JUST DRY FAST FOR 3 DAYS AND DRINK FUCKING SNAKE JUICE AFTER YOU FAT FOOD ADDICTED FUCK.

GOOD LUCK. TAKE PICTURES AND POST'EM IF YOU SUCCEED.

PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF POSTING PICTURES, BUT IF YOU WANT TO SEE RESULTS, GOOGLE 'SNAKE DIET WIZARD' ON IG.

YEA THAT'S PERFECTLY REASONABLE. IF YOU WANT TO BOOST THE CUT, TRY WORKING OUT ONE DAY FASTED AND SEE HOW THAT GOES.

GO FOR A WALK YOU UNMOTIVATED FUCK. DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE.

SHOW ME BETTER RESULTS THAT DON'T COST ANY MONEY AND DON'T REQUIRE ANY DRUGS. ALSO, SHOW ME SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS 'NOT EATING.'

reee don't scream at me you bigot meanie oppressor :C

can i be a part of /fast/ if i'm just doing a 1500 Caloric diet?

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Will eating oreos break my fast?

is your capslock key broken?

>SHOW ME BETTER RESULTS THAT DON'T COST ANY MONEY AND DON'T REQUIRE ANY DRUGS.
Long fasting will of course give the best theoretical results but it's very very hard to do.

I would be interested to get 200 similarly motivated men and have 100 of them try snake juice fasting for as long as they could as often as they could for a year and have the other 100 eat at a 1000cal def for a year (or till they hit and maintained goal weight) and see which group had the best results

In real life it is often the case that the thing that seems or feels like the best thing to do because it is the most extreme is often not on average the best thing to do

What about your own?

ive been doing 3-4 day fasts every week and have lost 30 pounds so far, started on november 1

fuck off to /fat/

Just binged.

dumb bitch nigga

also gramps isnt dead...

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>gramps isn't dead
>old generals are LITTERED with discordfags wailing about his death
ok

Cutting makes you lose muscle and decreases your BMR. On the other hand, you don't lose muscle when fasting and it actually increases your BMR if you do it regularly to the point you exhaust all your glycogen stores and enter ketosis because you are constantly switching metabolic pathways

literally have his phone number and in our OG discord we talk to him per normal, i talked to him like yesterday lol

I think this is a good premise. If you lose weight, but retain the same muscle mass, it leads to reason that you'd be able to run a lot faster.

>but it's very very hard to do.
THE DIFFICULTY IS BASED OFF OF WILLPOWER, SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED FOR LIFE IN GENERAL.

>snake juice fasting for as long as they could as often as they could for a year
HERE'S THE THING ABOUT PROLONGED FASTING, YOU WILL ONLY NEED TO DO 2-3 MONTHS COMPARED TO A WHOLE YEAR OF EATING AT A CALORIC DEFICIT. AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S ALSO SPECIAL ABOUT THAT CALORIC DEFICIT? YOUR MUSCLES WILL BE AT A STATE OF ATROPHY FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR! YAY!

HOW DO I KNOW THIS? BECAUSE I TRIED IT. I FUCKING TRIED EATING AT A CALORIC DEFICIT IN 12 SMALL MEALS A DAY. I DID A FUCKING YEAR, COINCIDENTALLY, AND LOST 60 POUNDS, BUT GOD KNOWS HOW MUCH OF THAT WAS FUCKING MUSCLE. MY BMR HAD DROPPED SO FUCKING MUCH (>2K TO 900 CALORIES) THAT I REGRET EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY I WAS ON THAT PIECE OF SHIT MAINSTREAM BULLSHIT DIET THAT I SUFFERED THROUGH, BEING HUNGRY 24/7 AND FUCKING MISERABLE. I STALLED ON MY LIFTS AFTER LIKE 6 MONTHS AND I HAD JUST BARELY STARTED TO LIFT, WHAT KIND OF FUCKING GARBAGE IS THAT?

SO WHAT'S WORSE, BEING BORED FOR 2 MONTHS DOING EXTENDED FASTS OR SUFFERING A WHOLE YEAR, LOSING MUCH MORE MUSCLE, AND POSSIBLY GAINING A FOOD ADDICTION?
ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT, FASTING IS NOT LIMITED TO BODY FAT LOSS. YOU GAIN IMMENSE SELF-DEVELOPMENT, YOU CAN PREVENT CANCER, CURE CANCER, AND HEAL HEALTH ISSUES. YOU ALSO GAIN THIS INVALUABLE TOOL THAT YOU HAVE BY YOUR SIDE IN CASE YOU RELAPSE LIKE A LITTLE BITCH - JUST DON'T EAT FOR 2 DAYS. COMPARE THAT TO A MULTIPLE MEAL A DAY CALORIC DEFICIT. YOU'D HAVE TO MANAGE YOUR DIET PERFECTLY FOR 3 WEEKS TO LOSE 6 POUNDS (WHICH 2 POUNDS PER WEEK IS AGGRESSIVE FOR YOUR STUPID FUCKING DIET LMAO).

>it is the most extreme
THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE WRONG. WHAT'S EXTREME IS MULTIPLE MEALS A DAY OR EATING AT A CALORIC DEFICIT. OUR EVOLUTION WAS BUILT AROUND FOOD SCARCITY, NOT FOOD ABUNDANCE. WE DID NOT HAVE READILY AVAILABLE STEAK AT GROCERY STORES 2 MILLION YEARS AGO, AND WE WERE IN MUCH BETTER HEALTH PHYSICALLY.

How long would it take to lose 40kg?

n-no
/fat/ sucks i like /fast/

I am just a numbers guy. Diets don't mean shit if nobody sticks to them. I would just like to see how real world effective fasting is vs a cal deficit

Atkins sounds like the best idea ever to every middle age fat guy I know, I have had office people for years tell me how they just lost 20lbs on atkins and were going to lose more

they are all still fat, it's good you can follow this diet but we need averages for meaningful discussion

Stop being identification into Jow Forums you maggot, you have no reason to have a trip and you have no reason to talk about discord

You sound just like me, years ago I was a fat fuck and I knew nothing about fitness/nutrition so I adopted a shitty mainstream diet, where I cut at 1000 cals, it made my muscles atrophy into pretty much nothing. I was weaker than a woman.

Now through the power of fasting + bulking, I have GAINED muscle through my fasts, how about that?

Only person that matters is you. Doing snake juice for a year straight is unreasonable because you lose a pound a day. So after 60 days you would have lost 60 lbs. You could probably get 60 days out of 3 months. There shouldnt really be that many people who have more than 60lbs to lose. Most only want to lose 20-30. Actually getting people with enough fat to snake diet for a years seems to be the hard part.

if you are cutting at 1000 cals but not in ketosis you are going to lose muscle.

So what, you all got high and started shitposting about the paddy's demise all at once, for days and weeks? Odd.

That was literally a coordinated trolling attempt you retard

noob faggot

see i mean, you'd believe the chimps in this thread over me, the only person who has posted results and updates for over a year now?

Two hours left of my first 48 hour dry fast. Hope I have the willpower not to gorge as soon as I break it.

>Diets don't mean shit if nobody sticks to them
THEN GOOD LUCK ON TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO STICK TO A CALORIC DEFICIT FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. AT LEAST WITH OMAD THEY CAN EAT MORE CALORIES ON A DAILY BASIS, FEEL FULL ONCE A DAY FOR HOURS, AND FULFILL THAT FOOD ADDICTION. A CALORIC DEFICIT IS COMPLETE FUCKING GARBAGE COMPARED TO FASTING, AND IT ISN'T EVEN HEALTHY.

YEA IT PISSES ME OFF A GREAT DEAL, ESPECIALLY SINCE I WAS TELLING PEOPLE TO DO THE SAME IF THEY WANTED TO LOSE WEIGHT. NOT ONLY DID IT MAKE ME A WEAK BITCH, IT MADE ME A WEAK SKINNYFAT BITCH TELLING PEOPLE A FUCKING LIE.
THE ONLY SAVING GRACE IS THAT IT LED ME TO FASTING AND SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH FOR HEALTH. IMAGINE FINDING OUT THAT YOU CAN BULK ON A CUT, AND IF YOU DIRTY BULK YOU CAN JUST FAST FOR 7 DAYS, RETAINING ALL YOUR MUSCLE.

is that you jody?

>Only person that matters is you. Doing snake juice for a year straight is unreasonable because you lose a pound a day. So after 60 days you would have lost 60 lbs
in theory

I am saying that people might lose 30lbs then you back up and at the end of a year be back where they started like atkins

>THEN GOOD LUCK ON TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO STICK TO A CALORIC DEFICIT FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
obviously you hit your goal weight then stop eating at a deficit

Tell that to clueless me 4 years ago who didn't know shit

Goal weight means nothing. You'll have to bulk to get back the muscle that you lost turning the cut, but then you have to cut to get rid of the fat that you gained from the bulk, creating a vicious cycle.

Fasting completely transcends the gay bulking/cutting cycle

REGAINING THE WEIGHT IS NOT EXCLUSIVE TO PROLONGED FASTING. YOU DON'T THINK I REGAINED SOME WEIGHT BACK AFTER I COULDN'T HANDLE MULTIPLE MEALS A DAY AT A CALORIC DEFICIT? I REGAINED LIKE 25 FUCKING POUNDS, STILL FUCKING WEAK. AGAIN, A PROLONGED FASTER WILL HAVE THIS TOOL TO LOSE WEIGHT FAST AND SAFELY, BUT IF SOMEBODY RELAPSES FROM THE MAINSTREAM DIET, IT'LL TAKE WEEKS OF UNHEALTHY EATING HABITS AGAIN, WHICH THEY WILL *NOT* BE ABLE TO DO FOR ANOTHER FUCKING YEAR.

ON A MAINSTREAM DIET, YOUR BMR WILL BE SO LOW AT THIS POINT THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO EAT +200 CALORIES OF WHERE YOU DROPPED FROM THE PREVIOUS WEEK, MEANING I WOULD BE EATING 1100 CALORIES TO MAINTAIN MY WEIGHT AT 205 POUNDS. RIGHT NOW I'M MAINTAINING 190 EATING 1500+ CALORIES AND RISING, GETTING STRONGER EVERY FUCKING WEEK AT THE GYM.

THIS AND MOTHERFUCKING THIS.

>tfw dominate a 1200 calorie chaos burrito for first meal of the day
feels good man. been IF'ing for a couple of weeks to improve my strength to body weight ratio to be a better rock climber and the results have been great. Lost 12 lbs but I dont feel like ive lost any strength and my climbing has greatly improved.

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>Goal weight means nothing.
jokes on you i wanna compete in a weight class

Then fast, you can compete in your weight class and you won't lose muscle

Well fasting forces ketosis. Fastest way of entering it.

this guy in the OP pic has the cutest fucking feet, don't even fast just thought I'd drop by to say that

>RIGHT NOW I'M MAINTAINING 190 EATING 1500+ CALORIES
wat

Don’t ever fucking reply to me

YEA IF I HADN'T BEEN ON A MAINSTREAM DIET, MY MAINTENANCE WOULD BE 2K+ EASILY. INSTEAD IT DROPPED TO 900, MY HORMONES GOT ALL FUCKED UP, AND I GOT FUCKING WEAK.

YOUR HORMONE THERAPY GIVING YOU MOOD SWINGS? FIND YOUR NEAREST DILATION STATION AT YOUR LOCAL LIBERAL WORKSHOP YOU FUCKING HOMOSEXUAL TRANNY. I BET YOU'RE A FOOTPOSTER

I'm glad he's alright, tell him I said hi, I'm the guy who mentioned Dylan Moran in a previous general.

How long would it take to lose 40kg?

2+ MONTHS.

losertown.org/eats/cal.php
Put zero calories ingested

I absolutely fucking despise cutting during winter. I hate how the fat around my tits, cock, and man handles are more stubborn than a family of niggers saying their son who shot and killed someone dindunuffin.

Winter cutting is fucking bullshit.

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It's all in your head, I did a 3 day fast before Christmas Day and it didn't phase me

>It's all in your head, I did a 3 day fast before Christmas Day and it didn't phase me
do you lose 3lbs in 3days doing that?

Sup my dudes. I'm getting into keto and I've read that intermittent fasting and keto were the best combo. Can anyone here vouch/verify?

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Day 3 with wet fast, already thinking how will i keep my self gorging a huge meal after tomorrow.

>*reads /fast/*
>you will lost muscle if you're cutting but you won't if you fast
what is this magic
WHAT IS THIS MAGIC
SURELY IT IS BROSCIENCE

The body switches metabolic pathways to burning fat for a primary source of energy during a fast, which means it exclusively targets your fat stores as burning muscle is wasteful. I have gained muscle this month even though there was more days where I haven't eaten anything than days I have ate.

it's simple
if you eat protein to maintain muscle mass during a cut you'll lose muscle mass

but if you drink water and no protein you won't lose muscle mass

WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS WITH KETO?

STRENGTH.

to lose weight

This is another fad diet guys, first month on it I dropped 20. second month on it I only dropped 10. basically all it does is get rid of water weight.

THEN THE BEST THING IS SIMPLY PROLONGED FASTING. SNAKE JUICE GOING WEEKS AT A TIME, SPLASHED WITH SOME DRY DAYS AND WORKING OUT. IT'S ALSO DIFFICULT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE FOOD ADDICTION.

AS FAR AS REFEEDING, RAW, LEAN PROTEIN, RAW EGGS, AND RAW LIVER. STARCHY CARBS SHOULD BE KEPT AT A MINIMUM, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY SHOULD BE COMPLETELY NEGLECTED, ESPECIALLY IF YOU WORKOUT. IF YOU'RE NOT OPEN TO THE IDEA OF EATING RAW FOOD, THEN EAT LEAN MEAT AND CARBS FOR FIBER (NO SUGAR, FATTY). FAT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT BUT IF YOU'RE ALREADY FAT, YOU DON'T NEED MUCH. JUST EAT EGG YOLKS FOR THE SMALL AMOUNT OF FAT AND CHOLESTEROL. THERE'S MORE TO THIS BUT I DON'T WANT TO WRITE ANOTHER 2000 CHARACTER POST. FIRST GET LEAN THEN ASK FOR FURTHER INFO.

OH YEA, AND MACROS SHOULD BE 50:50 PROTEIN:FAT ON THE WEEKDAYS AND 50:50 PROTEIN:CARBS ON THE WEEKENDS. THE MORE DAYS YOU DO NOT EAT, THE BETTER. DO OMAD AT THE VERY LEAST.

Fuck off retard, fasting has been practised for thousands of years, intentionally, and for basically all of humanities lifespan until the present unintentionally when food was naturally scarce.

Thanks for ruining the thread. May as well put on a trip code since you are so obviously starved for attention

ANOTHER /FAT/ LIAR TRYING TO BULLSHIT YOU. DON'T LISTEN TO THIS FUCKING LYING IDIOT.

THEN LEAVE. ANYONE CAN TAKE ON THE PERSONA, BUT ARE YOU WILLING TO HELP OTHERS? GO BACK TO THE MAIN BOARD AND PREACH YOUR FUCKING DRUGS AND SHITTY MAINSTREAM DIET, PUSSY.

I'm 72 hours in and want to feed. Is it bad if drink a zero calorie monster energy drink. It's almost to the point where it's that or feed. Will calorie free drinks hurt weight loss

sure :) anything else? i don' remember your posts because I lurk rarely :(

Find an easy video game to grind or play an MMO

>It's almost to the point where it's that or feed
EITHER GAIN SOME MORE WILLPOWER AND PUSH THROUGH LIKE A MAN OR PUSS OUT AND SIP YOU FUCKING BOOMER. IT WILL HURT WEIGHT LOSS A BIT, BUT THE WORST FEELING IS KNOWING YOU'RE A WEAK BITCH THAT HAS TO RESORT TO DRUGS AND ONE OF THE WORST FUCKING DRINKS TO BOOT.

FACE SOME DISCOMFORT IN YOUR GODDAMN LIFE. IF YOU CAN'T EVEN BEAT HUNGER, HOW CAN YOU BEAT BIGGER PROBLEMS? BY DRINKING MONSTER?