The great debate

The great debate

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planks

>planks
meme

Hanging leg raises and L-sits

Wheel or bouldering

FBI test requires sit-ups

Crunches and reverse crunches.

Heavy compound exercises.

rectus abdominis flexes the spine forward. if you arent doing an exercise that enables this you aren't training your "six pack" at all. hanging leg raises work mostly hip flexors, reverse crunches the erectors and hamstrings, planks work the transversus, heavy compounds work transversus and erectors... etc. Basically the most common exercise that actually works the rectus is OHP since you flex your spine forward to prevent from falling back and killing yourself. You can get a "six pack" just by training hip flexors and transversus because it presses the rectus forward which gives an illusion of hypertrophy though. Lots of people don't like spinal flexion exercises because of that disc doctor faggot who says they are bad for your spine. Well hes right but weightlifting is bad for your joints in general

front levers

do a plank for 1 minute then lmao

The leading spine specialists advocate for planks and suggest as little movement as possible. Check Stuart Mc Gill

>FBI test

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planks spare your back but are shittier as an exercise

i get sore as hell when i do this exercice, especially when you controle the negative

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>1 minute
are you implying this is hard

russian twists

I just lie on an exercise ball and do sit-ups that way. I don't have anything to hold my toes down, so this way I get the same movement without the imbalance.

Bait

Front squat.

Cut this other shit out you faggots.

Plank starts at 5 minutes.

This isnt even a question. When you sit up during a sit-ups the tention goes away from your abs while crunches hold a constant tention.

crunches>>>sit-ups

>not doing weighted decline crunches with an emphasis on keeping your glutes and lower back flexed/flat
Not gonna make it

>sit-ups
help cute girl and she appreciate you later
>crunch
Wank alone in room while girl excersises

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>ye bro abs are made in the kitchen
>no need to isolate them
>squats are enough
Hope you didn't fall for these

Should i brace my abs before going down just like the back squat or is there another technique for front squating ?

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You should be engaging your entire core for just about any lift especially during squats

>Cruches
Ok exercise, not as good as leg-raises.
>Sit-Ups
Makes my back hurt after 3 sets of 20 reps. Not great improvement.

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Planks, Side Planks, Leg Raises, Vertical Leg Raises, Bicycle Crunches.

V Ups

If it's supposed to be a core exercise and you're not hanging from something or pretending to be a motorcycle, I'm not interested. Leg raise, L sits and the wheel are all much more effective for me.

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>thinks weighted planks with posterior pelvic tilt for rectus abdominis activation don't activate the rectus abdominis
>thinks leg raises that require you to tilt your pelvis to get your legs as high as possible don't activate the rectus abdominis
>thinks reverse crunches are back extensions and not simply lifting your pelvis off the floor instead of your chest

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this is me. planks make me really agitated for some reason

Weighted crunch machine is the only way to go.

Ab wheel makes me feel like I'm literally ripping myself apart, nothing beats it for efficiency

i do this but i jack up the angle to be as close to vertical as possible. really good ab exercise but i cant do more than 3x5

Both are inadequate.

Every federal service fitness requirement is autistic shit based on knowledge from the 1800s about fitness. They just don't care to change it because "it's what we've always done.'

My stupid taibone hurts after doing sit-ups. I still try carefully sometimes with a slightly flat pillow

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>lock fingers behind head during sit-up
>they become 3x harder to do

for what reason

situps are one of the worst exercises for your back because it causes a lot of shear stress

I personally use a folded up towel. Hasn't bothered me since I started.

When I try to do situps it feels like my sternum catches on something and then sticks and pops into place during the latter half of the motion. It makes them pretty uncomfortable, not exactly painful but not pleasant either.
I used to think it was a fracture or something but it's been basically unchanged for like 10 years now and I only notice it when doing situps, so I just don't do situps and ignore it.

tl;dr crunches are better because one of my weird undiagnosed medical issues makes situps unpleasant and now I'm blogging about it

situps work your ilipsoas and pectineus, while planks or crunches will work your abdominal wall

i really hope you go to FGCUPT, cause id love for you to be one of the quad squad

this is some meme shit, and doesnt even make sense anatomically

leg lifts dont do much for you abs, as your legs rotate around your acetabulum, not around your lumbar spine

how exactly does it do this?

Fuck user, best meme I've seen in a while

spinerf.org/breaking-down-the-exercises-that-break-down-your-spine/

I don't know how it does it, but it's referenced in the link. Also puts a lot of compressive forces on your spine.

Can I get a summary? like what to do and what to avoid

based and redpilled

>>Sit-Ups
>Makes my back hurt after 3 sets of 20 reps. Not uh Alex i'll pick What is shit form for 200

Wow, someone managed to fuck up dragon flag form in a drawn diagram. Never gonna make it.

Planche

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>leg lifts dont do much for you abs
Depends on how high you lift your legs.

stuart mcgill advocates for performance and health, not aesthetics. there's no point for most people to do sit ups or crunches, the average person doesn't need to be strong in trunk flexion. however if you're a body builder, would you train arms purely with isometrics? of course not.

that being said, you're not going to destroy your back with a couple of crunches every other day


avoid spinal flexion if you're super paranoid about your back. what actually happens is the posterior section of your vertebrae are the weakest. going into spinal flexion causes the intervertebral discs to be pinched at the anterior side, and "balloon" out the posterior side, putting unneccesary force on the weak(er by comparison) part of each vertebrae.


>this is some meme shit, and doesnt even make sense anatomically
not him but yes it does, do u even physics? what are an moment arm ??