Being 36 and dating is hell

32 here, I'll be damned if I date a woman my age. Shoot younger.

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I'm in a similar position, tell me how you did it, how did you find her?

Marry her and put babies in her. Jedi mind fucks everyday to keep her inline. Stay on top of it. More babies. More babies. Keep her busy. Give her time with her friends, but only her girl friends that are also married - no single friends. Keep busy with a hobby of her own that keeps her somewhere you can make sure she is not getting hit on. Never let her know you keep an eye on her, but behind the scences you are running shit like a pro. Don’t fuck it up due to fear. Claim her man. Do it quick. Get engaged tomorrow. She is young, she will follow a strong male lead.

>recipe for divorce and child support for 18 years

Mate, if you marry a girl like that you'd better have an offshore bank account and a LLC that owns some assets you can live from. We. She divorces you and you have to give 75% of your salary to her, it'll be far more satisfying to get a comfy minimum wage job and send her $600/month while you live off hidden money

I know you guys all hate women here, but I really don’t know what to do. I’m extremely lonely and I’ve been single for years, men approach me but by the second date I zone out, I’m not there anymore and I just want to go home. It’s the same when I try to make friends. I’m aware that I’m zoning out when I do it but I can’t stop it.

Don’t know that maybe she was the one who left? He was alcoholic? Abusive? People change doesn’t mean he was always bad

Just because your fat body or ugly face prevented you from these mistakes doesn’t mean they’re all bad people

Have a co worker in that situation and she’s a really sweet/kind woman but most men abandon ship because of the kid “it’s too much”

Jow Forums is a male safe space, roastie

>a LLC that owns some assets you can live from

You have no idea what you're talking about.

>I zone out
>I’m aware that I’m zoning out when I do it but I can’t stop it.
Try meditation.
youtube.com/watch?v=aAVPDYhW_nw

Also, try to limit your internet / social media / phone time.

I hate to say this, but there isn't a double standard for men, either. You can ride the pussy carousel a few years older, but once you reach your mid-30s you have to be married and start having kids or you're going to be miserable as well or going out with crazy girls... I'm sorry, but any girl that is with a guy 15 years older than her has serious daddy issues that you can ignore in the short term but it ALWAYS manifests eventually. Your only other choice is being a literal Shakespearean cuckold and raise another man's kids.

At LEAST if you have kids of your own, it kind of balances out.

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>complaining about being loney
>can't even make friends
>jumping to accuse user of wrongly evaluating the woman
>implying he would have made the same mistakes if he had the same options
>implying it's ever good enough to merely not be a bad person
>implying sweet/kind is even enough to get swiped right
>implying men are abandoning ship and she hasn't set her own ship on fire
>implying it's "the kid is too much" and it's not "why the fuck would I support some other retarded dude's stupid kid for a mentally damaged and emotionally worn-out 30 year old woman"

As for zoning out, there are ways to practice active focus. Meditation during yoga (alone, not paying some retards in a hot room to dictate) is great. You may just have inattentive type adult ADD like me, in which case medication is your best bet.

>she's a sweet/kind woman
So she's a fucking gargoyle.

The only trait that matters is how good the girl looks, maybe she should looksmax instead of bitching and complaining.

>Try Tinder
>Change minimum age to 26

so many single moms. i'm fucked

Go to literally any country in Asia or South America. South Korea is filled with thin, well-educated and reasonably sane single thirty somethings most of whom have partner counts in the single digits.

She’s good looking too. And she doesn’t obnoxiously complain, it was just a heart to heart we had once working late

And I already meditate it really hasn’t helped at all

I'm 35 and going through this too but finally just gave up. That's about all we can do man. There's a reason I'm not married and it's not from lack of trying. I could never get a girl to invest in me. That's what happens when you're a manlet in modern day dating though. Now in my mid 30's I can't remember the last time a girl was interested in me that didn't have kids. But I've ascended in a way. At one time I would have taken a single mom. But I learned like others have said here, it's just not worth it. I'd rather enjoy my time alone as to take care of someone elses problems.

It's not all bad being alone I suppose. The holidays are terrible and I'm lonely a lot. but you can take advantage of your free time, or just spend it shit posting. What really sucks is I have a Chad lite friend older than me who was married for over 10 years. He got a divorce and got a cute girlfriend with no kids in about 3 months. Yet it's been several years since I've even had a date. He's over 6'. Seeing things like that are a real blow but like I said above, what can you do?

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>wanting a safe space
Speak for yourself homo. The nudes you get from Jow Forums girls are top notch. I "cheated" on my fiancee with some cokehead from Jow Forums. It was bretty gud.

Girls are terrible judges of beauty with friends, they elevate 5s into 9s if they like them.

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>I could never get a girl to invest in me
but can you get laid?

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and they are all ugly as shit

Have you considered joining a church? When I was 16, my youth pastor was a thirty something fat, 4/10 motherfucker with a shitty personality but he'd snagged a solid 6/10 wife ten years younger than him through church (she wasn't a part of the youth group, just the congregation).

Otherwise, go overseas. American women are shit. Just don't go for a flip. Flips look like fucking monkies. Get a Viet/Chinese/Korean/Jap or go to Argentina or Poland or something.

34, still do just fine. GF and I broke up a couple months ago, about to jump back onto Hinge/Bumble.

People really start to diverge in their thirties, when lazy people start getting fat, slutty women become single moms, and dudes with job issues become more obviously unsuccessful.

>but can you get laid?
Not often. It's been a really long time now. But the only time girls ever showed interest in fucking was if they were in a boring marriage or something. That's another wakeup call. How many married women that have offered to fuck me vs. how many single girls is just mind boggling. But it's usually because married women have lower standards and just want someone who will keep their mouth shut.

The last time I got laid was a couple years ago by a gilf with huge I met that didn't care about height. we fucked a few times and that was it. before that I couldn't even tell you the last time.

so I would say in summary, can I get laid? not as easily as I wished. I'm sure theres some girl out there somewhere would throw down a pity fuck.

>Have you considered joining a church?
Nah this is a meme too. I went to church my whole youth and teen years. One thing I discovered was churches have the same social hierarchy as any other social venue. Theres church chads and they're usually boning half the girls in church. When I went in my teen/young adult years, I could never get a date when I tried.

Your youth pastor friend was probably just able to get a girl because of the position he held.

>I already meditate it really hasn’t helped at all
have you considered that you're possibly not doing it correctly? The point is to train your mind to be able to focus, even on something as boring and mundane as the breaths you take, which normally go by subconscious and unnoticed.

Unless by zone out you mean something different, which is why I'm recommending you reduce your internet time. You need a dopamine reset on your brain. You're expecting constant thrills from your suitors and when they (reasonably) cannot provide that you "zone out". Retrain yourself like the many men who have to abstain from porn in order to find your woefully disappointing physique appealing enough to maintain an erection.

I want to clarify the gilf I fucked was single.

>fucked a grandmother
>"she was single tho"
christ mate

yep

although I will say that was a hot experience and I have no regrets.

NO RAGRETS

It’s not just with them, with any person I always zone out

I don’t get bored
I leave the place while still sitting
I crawl into my shell

Based and Christainpilled

the Hitler maneuver

unfortunately thats not an option for us all user.

I'm 32, But I want a wife in her mid/late 20s, with no kids.

>He got a divorce and got a cute girlfriend with no kids in about 3 months
there will always be a few women like this, they stay single and circle the plug hole of single life catlady death hoping a monied 6'+ Chad will come along

>not impregnating women across state lines under false identities and dashing off into the night to become a wise hermit whom only the most capable of your offspring will be able to track down.

It's like you don't want to live

How tall are you?

wow this image really hits close to home

Every year past 30 the bigger the Chad you need to be to keep consistently pulling in that ideal young (18-22) childless White girl pussy. Remember that even men hit the wall actually.

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Providing emotional spikes is the only real strategy. fuck marriage

ah I think she is in her late 20's, she's pretty. It just fucking sucks. I had been forcing myself to "get out there". I went out on weekends and had been trying to develop a social circle a year or so before he ever got divorced. Nothing positive ever happened. The first night we hung out after his divorce, some girl basically went out of her way to talk to him. That was the biggest gut punch and when I realized the height memes were true. But as I said, what can be done? Nothing really.

5'6

You mean stay single forever? or are you commenting on the fact that I do get offers from married chicks?

*ting ting ting*
AHEM
Fuck marriage.

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Ever consider elevator shoes?

If you knew anything about the body you would know a man's thirties are his prime muscle gaining years.

24 yr old and nearly went the step dad route. Couldn't do it

I used to but theres obvious drawbacks. For one, you have to take them off at some point and then the girl will notice you're faking and will be turned off. But most likely she will notice before then and the insecurity from that will be an even bigger turn off.

But it's a moot point. I'm at the part of my life where I dont give a fuck anymore. I'd rather be me and alone than to pretend I'm tall and have someone. Maybe that's cope, I don't know. But I'd rather be myself than have to fake out a girl who would not normally date a short guy. hope that makes sense.

This 100%.

my tinder is set to 18-24 usually.

i'm 29.

If women can wear pushup bras you can wear elevator shoes. Turnabout is fair play.

it doesn't work like that user. women are the real eugenicists. they get pissed if you try to fake it.

>Turning 24 soon
>Still no GF

AHHHHHHHHH

I DONT WANT TO END UP ALONE OR WITH A UGLY GIRL

TIME IS RUNNING OUUUUUUT

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Then don't get caught. Use it for first impressions or high value special occasions. Once you get her hooked switch to normal.

If you're not hideous, just keep trying. I see plenty of manlets with womanlet wives.

I'll keep it in mind but I don't go out anymore or try so anyone that sees me wearing them will most likely know me and they will be able to tell what I'm doing. I find that embarrassing.

thanks user, I used to believe this. But as I said above, I'm at 35. It's basically over at this point. I'm tired of believing a false hope that a girl is right around the corner. It's better to live in the reality of what is.

I've started making some changes to help. I spend a lot more time with my parents now. It's nice to rekindle my relationship with them. I think with the money I save in the coming years by not having a family of my own; I can take care of them a lot better than I would have. I find that rewarding. I mean, how can you pay back your parents you know? If you have good ones anyways, it's a big sacrifice. So it's probably a cope, but a rewarding one.

>t. 30 year old boomer NYRer who just started the gym and read some shit on men’s health magazine

it sounds like you're at the perfect point in your life to finally start attracting women. You say you don't give a fuck anymore, but based on everything you've said up until this point you don't sound like the kind of guy who is unapologetically himself in social situations.

If you truly don't give a fuck, and know how to make yourself happy- learn to socialize from that frame. You'll probably say you don't like people or socializing or whatever, but that's because you actually do give a fuck and are afraid.

As soon as the anxiety is gone where you're stuck in your head worrying about if you're too short, too bald, too quiet- you're attractive.

Naysay all you want and say it's pointless because of hypergamy or whatever, but the point remains that there is a peace in knowing you are being yourself and don't care if people like you or not. You are responsible for your state of mind instead of putting that in someone elses hands. If they like you or not doesn't matter, because they'll at least respect you for not being spineless

I've worn insoles, 2 inches, but as long as you never mention them. Girls don't fucking notice.

I'm 33 and dating is hit and miss. There are some women above 30 who look ok. What is brutal though is if you're not attractive.

I did the calculations on an app where you can see everyone who liked you. Of the 130 women who saw my profile 40 matched me. Of those 40 maybe 3 are very attractive and 5 attractive. That's 1/5th of every woman who likes me being attractive. That's not considering that I want a non smoker and someone who doesn't have kids. So maybe 1/8th of every woman who finds me attractive is dateable just going by her profile.

In numbers that means 5 out of 130 women in my age group are dateable just going by her profile. 3,8%. And I'm 6'3" with a profile photo that got 9.1 attractive on photofeeler.

there's a chick I know who was a womanlet and got a manlet husband. He's one of these ones who stands on tippy toes in photos
I actually feel kinda bad for him because his various family members and relatives seem to make fun of his height in every photo he's tagged in on fb
It's also weird that I feel bad for him about that, but that I don't feel bad that I was fucking his wife during the start of their marriage
Oh well the mind works in mysterious ways

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When you consider that the individuals in that group rotate in and out over time those are plenty high numbers to work with.

lmao you really think a woman is not going to notice if you suddenly are 2-3 inches shorter? she definitely will, especially if you are the kind of manlet that would even consider wearing platform shoes in the first place.

I don't give a fuck in terms of faking my height or trying anymore. But I do suck in social situations and have anxiety about approaching girls in public. Especially when most don't want it. And I'm not good with big groups. But I still think social skills are just a meme. They only work if you're already hot. If you're not hot, then they're pointless.

And even when the anxiety is gone, it doesn't mean I'm attractive. I can only control me. I can't control the reality of what is. Only my perception of it. So I'm not sure that would really help.

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It doesn't really matter if the field is garbage though. You only need one friendolio.

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I'm doing OK because I won the genetic lottery. I don't look like I'm in my 30s. Tall, full hair, athletic (you can't see it in the profile pictures though) and I'm an architect which seems to be a job woman find interesting.

I gloat because I want to tell my fellow 30+ year olds how fucking difficult it is to find someone if you don't fulfill all my criteria. I still have to put up with a lot of bullshit and entitlement. If you're not tall, have a shit job and are balding you are basically fucked. Settle as fast as possible.

>22 dating 16 year old
i was skeptical at first but it seems normal now
pretty good

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LMao creep

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Look at this goofy bitch, she loves the attention. Why you talking to these people if they're all trying to hit on you and you don't like it?

Social media was a mistake.

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Stuck up cunt. That shit made me kek hard

Do grills care about Snap streaks? This really cute grill would snap me daily while the streak was on-going. I let it die one day because I didn’t think much of it. Snapped her a few days later after streak died but she just sent a single snap in response. Nothing after that.

Yes. I have heard of a girl giving her phone to a friend to continue a snap streak when she went away for awhile. It's pathetic.

No one can stop me from getting to my goal

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Amazing

Is this achievable natty?

Keep trying breh. One of the hottest girls I know is happily married to a guy 3 inches shorter than her

im 32 and dating a 24 childless gf. wouldnt do single moms unless, she is perfect and i can get my own kids in. when i was single i would get shittier matches on tinder. fuck apps, approach irl.

i have gud face and youth genetics so im not fucked yet. gonna need to make kids soon though or its too late

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>gonna need to make kids soon though
ez. don't pull out and feed her birth control to the cat

guys I am 31 and heading into uni for 1st time

how fucked am I?

I look way younger and can pass for a 21y old

>having kids
too much responsibility
>being lonely
who cares, we all die alone

take the drug pill

Nah that’s bad advice. I got married early, it lasted 16 years, and now I’m 38 and divorced.

You’re gonna make it bro, you just need a different approach from your early days.

I’m engaged to a 27yo fit qt (big mistake, probably another divorce but gotta give it another try). Met her on tinder after running through numerous slags. All you need to do is:

>lie about your age and come clean when she’s already into you
>wear hats that don’t make you look retarded.
>assuming you’ve made it, always wear clothes they reveal your awesome body, but in a classy way
>don’t spend much money on a girl until after you’ve banged her and you know she’s worth it

>I’m 38 and divorced.
exactly what im trying to avoid
the whole point is so the bitch follows me until im elderly as shit

i'm in a similar situation. 30 and going to college. i look about 20. i get hit on / flirted with by younger girls all the time. if you're wise you'll stay away from them. you'll realize how immature and annoying they are and want nothing to do with them anyway. there might be a few girls your age there but they will probably have kids and i don't know how you feel about that.

Doesn't seem like you can really do anything to ensure you're married forever except for living in a country where divorce is socially unacceptable

Dude I'm 5' 6" and engaged to my soulmate, we have had threesomes with like 8 other girls over the years, possibly about to date another girl long term in a triad and I could end up with 2 wives.

Height excuses are bullshit, it doesnt matter at all. Your personality or face or something else is the issue, or you're just not meeting the right kind of girls.

Im not down to be a step dad
I am down to smash girls tho given they are above legality
seems like uni will be filled with knowledge and pussy

>theres a uni bar attached to campus
I went in there twice when I was younger and everytime I left with a girl

>tfw girls call you daddy but there is no sugar to be given

well theres no certainty in life so I guess ill just have to hope for the best

you're probably just a chad lite that's short. height is a perfectly valid excuse. my dating pool is something like 20 percent of women that would even consider me. your 3some is most likely to do with your fiance than you

i wanna go to college at my age but terrified of how cringy it would be

literally nobody cares

i wouldnt even know where or how to start