Any reason why young men refuse to grow up nowadays?

What motivation do men have to grow up? It used to be for a pure, untouched young women to start a family with. Now it's all used up Tinder thots out there.

It's too expensive to be alone

We're treated like children. Is it a surprise many act like it?

Also most males are raised very poorly. Treated like defective females.

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The current culture of saying men are the root problem for everything and actively phasing them out of the university system

Lel, hope it’s real.

Never EVER gonna reach the stars

Its not cringe, its just the uncomfortable truth.

You guys are like those people who all think they will be multi-millionaires. You know, basically every fucking guy you've ever known in your life.

The reality is there is a limited amount of spots for people to be millionaires, there is no unlimited positions, its limited, and the chances you become one are so fucking minuscule, its as bad as playing the lottery, if not worse.

I get it, most of you are still young, 15-25, you think anything is possible, and I hate to black pill shit you, but seriously, this is not pessimism, this is not negativity, this is a simple mathematical equation.

You have 1 million x more chance of becoming a millionaire by living frugally and saving your money than you are by striking it rich young and living some multi-millionaire chad lifestyle.

You have 1 million x more chance of ending up with a fat nagging slob wife who will never meet your original idea of your partner, but you will COPE and subconsciously adjust your standards to accept your situation.

Everything you THINK you can achieve, I can assure you will not make it, but maybe you will, who knows? What I do know is that you're better off not trying to become a Hero, not trying to become Rich, you will waste your life chasing this shit, that you will most likely not achieve. Don't waste your 1 life in an attempt to win the lottery of becoming a hero, or becoming super rich, use your 1 life focusing on shit you legitimately want to do. Don't wager your entire life away where the odds are that of a fucking lottery.

Video games and porn have a higher success rate than dating, marriage, and kids

Cringe was the way you phrased what you just said, no the actual content.

this amount of cope to justify your lack of action in life

The worst part is these people are always trying to take others down with them. Cut anyone in your life who is like this user.

okay but to be fair predator kicks fucking ass

>Everything you THINK you can achieve, I can assure you will not make it, but maybe you will, who knows? What I do know is that you're better off not trying to become a Hero, not trying to become Rich, you will waste your life chasing this shit, that you will most likely not achieve. Don't waste your 1 life in an attempt to win the lottery of becoming a hero, or becoming super rich, use your 1 life focusing on shit you legitimately want to do. Don't wager your entire life away where the odds are that of a fucking lottery.

Just like this. Some people will make it, no matter how few they are, but you phrase it in a way that makes the reader feel hopeless rather than willing to embrace reality.

Globalist neoliberalism naturally produces infantile people, both women and men. It makes women less feminine and males less masculine by observing them into a gender less middle ground of consumers.

This is why Star Wars is feminist now for example. It’s not because Disney gives a shit about feminism, it’s because marketing realized that since only boys want toy lightsabers that they were missing out on the girl market, and that if both boys and girls like Star Wars then they can double their profits (big movie franchises like this make the bulk of the profit from merchandise while the film itself is effectively just a commercial for said product) this same power is present in every aspect of society now, not just movies.

I want to suck its dick for sure.

this post is CRINGE and BLUEPILLED. stop blackpilling everyone. aspiring to be something greater than yourself and having hope is the most beautiful human emotion, and sad sacks like you are sucking life out of man.

Suffering is essential and hope is it's counterpart. Taking that away under a guise of "realism" is retarded. The millionaires and chads that make it dream big. At the end of the game, you'll realise that sitting and playing with the cards you're dealt is better than aspiring to nothing.

"To live without hope is to cease to live."

Thanks for the fake numbers you fucking loser. Anyone listening to this faggot should just neck themselves right here and right now. Reminded under this line of thinking you have a ZERO chance at being successful.

Not today you old Jew

Not trying to take anyone down. Just sick of seeing people lie to themselves, waste their entire lives lying to themselves. Never calculating the odds, never having any deep introspective thoughts.

It gives me pain to watch people do this to themselves. I legitimately feel pity and sorrow for them, if the only saw the futility of their dreams, they could at least find something they thoroughly enjoy doing in life, instead of wasting their short amount of time on earth trying to achieve near impossible goals.

You think I am some Jewish anti-white male shill or something, but the reality is I am saving yourselves, I am shouting at you guys to get off the fucking plantation this world has set you up for. They feed you these dreams and desires, you all think that is your future, but in reality it is the devil setting you up to get on locked, cucked and slaving away on the plantation.

He's saying you can succeed, but it's a grind, and you won't be living the high roller lifestyle.
With women, it's true. Once you get into a relationship, you'll get nagged into dust as it goes forward.

stratospheric iq poast

Going off the goal of starting a family being something to achieve, and also assuming this is in working a job age.
Women have so many rights and privileges over men nowadays,
Go too far in hitting on her? A case
Didn't realise being ugly means you can't use the usual routines to approach women? A case
Found a girl that seems nice and quiet or, shy? She's a poor single mother with family issues, who will cheat on you.
Wanna play the nice person role? Get ready to get crushed.
Like learning and wish you could do it in a school to improve? Haha nice try but you're never gonna compete old man

Wage-slaving is hell

Women act as male echo fighters, so men drop out as wahmen lean in.

There is nothing to grow up for.

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I think you are wrong.
A life spent toiling away attempting to reach goals and ideal is not a life wasted.
There is meaning in struggling. There is beauty in ideals.
If you do not make it then so be it.
Someone with your mentality could never have made it from the start.
All those things you listed can be done while still doing all the things that people enjoy.
I can watch movies and shows, read, play games, and hangout with friends all while getting good grades improving my body and building life skills.
Always improve your situation even if you dont become a millionaire or ever meet a girl worth hooking up with you will be better off than if you stood still and complained that statistically you are unlikely to succeed.

fuck wageslaving and fuck women

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>not allowed to have a hobby
What the fuck do you expect? According to your questionable worldview, are all men required to do """manly man""" things every waking moment? The only allowed hobbies are, what, target shooting with an AK47, smoking cigars, and drinking whiskey?

You sound horribly insecure, OP. Why is that?

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Unironically this.

What’s the point? There is nothing to grow up for. The moment you didnt secure your cute oneitis HS crush it was all over.

>Get a degree or a trade
>get whatever job you can find
>Take a mortgage and enslave yourself to (((them))) forever
>Go drinking and partying with normies and pretend to be happy while clock ticks your remaining youth away

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Weirdly I feel like the world has kinda stopped...

Times before we were exploring the world, building a country, fighting wars..

These days, we have everything we want. We can travel anywhere on a poor mans income. There's nothing to strive for..

>The moment you didnt secure your cute oneitis HS crush it was all over.
Well BOO FUCKING HOO, loser.
>he drank the kool-aid
Guess what? The whole Disney "you have to find your Soulmate so you can have your Happy Ending" thing is what's bullshit.
The media, TV, movies, literature, they all sell you a bill of goods: 'being alone' = FAILURE.
You swallowed it hook line and sinker, you fool.
Now you think your life is worthless. THEY ARE LAUGHING AT YOU AS SURELY AS TROLLS HERE ON Jow Forums LAUGH AT FOOLS WHO TAKE THE BAIT.

Fix your shit.

This sort of pessissimism and negativiy is so stupid.

>Hurr durr I can't have a perfect life so I might as well not try

This mindset is extraordinarily harmful, especially to young men. Young people need a sort of irrational exuberance and narcissism. Sure you may never be a millionaire with a 10/10 19 year old virgin wife but most men can work themselves into a comfortable income, comfortable lifestyle, and if you put enough effort into it, a fulfilling relationship.

I've had anons tell me marriage isn't worth it because your wife will get old. Guess what, you'll get old too! Look at your grandfather- do you think he despises your grandmother because she's old and wrinkly? No! If anything, he's grateful for the companionship, support, and lifetime of memories.

You don't need a ton of money to be happy. Polls show a leveling off at around $70k and that's just an average- if you're single and/or in a lower cost of living area you can be pretty happy with a lot less.
Don't blackpill yourself into not living life. Life isn't perfect, but it's worth living.

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t.(((redpilled))) cucks refusing to take the blackpill

>The media, TV, movies, literature, they all sell you a bill of goods: 'being alone' = FAILURE.
You swallowed it hook line and sinker

No you dumb faggot. I’m not talking about being alone or using the double digit IQ word “loser”.

Are you even a conscious being? Are you literally an NPC?

Explain to me what the purpose is? To get a salary, pay off debt and other products constantly? What the fuck is the point? If you can’t achieve your childhood / teenage dreams then what the fuck is the point?

Mega evolving straight to bitter old dude is underrated. You got skin in game to remain boomer in denial.

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>blackpill
Then just kys my nigga

>Explain to me what the purpose is? To get a salary, pay off debt and other products constantly? What the fuck is the point? If you can’t achieve your childhood / teenage dreams then what the fuck is the point?

Why don't you read some philosophy/theology/psychology? People have literally been talking about what constitutes a happy life for millennia.

I'm 24 and very happy. A lot of my happiness comes from the research I've done and the application of that into my daily life. Happiness is to a large degree a choice. You can create habits and steer your life in such a way that your baseline happiness level will be raised to a comfortable place. It takes time and effort but it can be done. Your obsession with women and money is only making you miserable. You need to learn to let go.

I've read the meditations and oriental philosophy too boyo.

>t. 999,999,999/1,000,000,000'er

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Now, you're triggered.

Have you ever tried life, though? It doesn't take much to realize this world's full of every day heroes. Achievement doesn't mean repeating the life of Ulysses. Greatness is relative to what you want to accomplish, but surely, unless you're a pro gamer, you're doing nothing of value playing video games. And I doubt you'll ever get close to proud of what you've accomplished on LoL, lying on your deathbed.

Anyway. I'm not . Just found your post pathetic.

>There is nothing to grow up for
I am ready for WWIII. I will fight for Emperor Vladimir

There are some really fucking good points here, that I never really consider.

Fuck. Fact is so many men aren't in a position to be "winners" that society will value.

Of course, I'm not saying to give up. I want to be a better man and strive for as long as I live. But maybe all the pressure to "make it" is crushing us rather than transforming us into diamonds. Or some other metaphor.

All men can "make it" to their biological hardcaps, however institutional power raises women above theirs so hypergamy forbids family formation with the average maxed out man by design.

Anyone who disagrees with this is a blankety blankety blank

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by grow up do you mean
>stop living for themselves and commit 100% of their life to roastie and her kids?

Don't listen to this bros, strive for greatness.
I believe in all of you.
Yes not all of you will make it but it's only because you're stopping yourself. Try harder.

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>refuse to grow up

"Yes, yes grow up and work yourself to death for Mr. Goldsteinnoseberg and dont forget to take a loan for your house, a loan for your car and a loan for this nice cool iphone xxx. And then marry Stacy Cockhole so you can take care of her and Tyrones 3 nig.. diverce children before she gets sick of you working so much, goes back to Tyrone and takes half of the stuff you own. Oh, and then you will die of an heartattack by 55."

Have a nice life.

The weak fail and give up, the strong fail and get up and fail again. The more you fail, the greater odds of making it.

1. Women are shit

2. Job market is shit

wow you're so smart OP

everybody shits on the newer generation for the sake of it

humans are great at blaming everybody but themselves to protect their feelings

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