None of your sources is about vegans. It's vegetarians.
Christopher Walker
I would love to keep being a vegetarian, but I like how meat tastes, and it feels good in my mouth when I eat it. Also, I got anemic. t. was vegetarian for a year
Also correlation is not causation, you literally die without vitamin b, and above all else a mixed diet of meat and produce is the healthiest diet a human can have. Limiting yourself to just one isn't healthy, no matter which one you choose.
>Moreover, our results showed that a vegetarian diet is associated with poorer health (higher incidences of cancer, allergies, and mental health disorders), a higher need for health care, and poorer quality of life.
Jaxson Parker
top tier scientific literature right there, thanks user /sarcasm
Ayden Rogers
I'm a vegetarian for 10 years and I think you're full of shit. The things that gave me "healthy mood state" wasn't quitting meat but weed and vidya. Lifting, cold showers and NoFap annihilate depression.
>myself >paleo-WAPF-meatman for most of my teens and 20s. >switch to lacto-vegetarian for a while. >beginning of the year, go vegan. >some weight gain and PRs, but now I'm feeling like my brain is changing >be in the grocery store, perusing veggies >for some reason I'm now mesmerized by all the shapes and colors of the vegetables >never done psychedelics or anything, but now I spent minutes staring at rainbow chard >I'm a fucking rabbit
Jaxon Turner
>posts that cold showers and nofap are crap >never does them but feels he can comment on the results
Not jacking off never did anything for me. I can go nofap for weeks just from being busy or tired. If you want the benefits of nofap, just cut the live-action porn and go 2D retro.
Jordan Murphy
post body
Wyatt Brown
>mesmerized by all the shapes and colors Just like toddlers and retards.
Hunter Williams
>you literally die without viamin b That's why when I'm feeling a bit weak I reach for a cold can of Monster Zero Ultra™, it gives me a quick caffeine boost while being loaded with 200% RDA of vitamins B3, B6, and B12 to make sure that energy sticks around for the long haul. So when you're feeling tired, reach for the white can, and unleash the beast!
Im vegan but can we please stop with the pseudoscience bullshit humans have been omnivorous for so long that we can't even absorb b12 in our colon anymore. most benefits of being vegan are just benefits of not eating an entire fucking pizza every night and bacon every morning.
I'm vegan for the animals and environment. Health reasons are questionable
Wyatt Roberts
Based Tom, shift manager at whole foods
Angel White
>people who manage to keep a diet and not just eat whatever they want have higher IQ wow no shit
>says the dumbfuck who believes veganism increases your iq
Matthew Garcia
Did you even read or address the studies nigger
go hang yourself
Ryder Myers
Rabbits and other herbivores dont eat modern cutlivated vegtables. They would never get the chance to because the vegetables dont grow in the wild. Veganism is literally the least natural diet ever. Its not even ethical. Vegans will quickly admit that though their diet does still harm animals, its much less than a meat diet. But what you dont realize is that they'd actually harm even fewer animals and humans if they simply stuck to locally raised animal products.
Vegans truly believe that eating locally raised animal products is worse for the environment than having exotic fruits and vegetables that have to be flown and shipped in from overseas because they don't exist naturally in their location. It's pure ignorance and mental illness
Jace Morris
>cuckime >propaganda outlets >spending even more money on supplements Op post body with a timestamp that says “hello mr Friday” faggot
Julian Cruz
Did you know that racists have lower IQ? Funny, isn't it? :)
Henry Campbell
>hello mr friday >it's sunday ??
Isaac Murphy
And how! Nothing like a cold can of Sips™ to start the day!
Carson Williams
I enjoy how assblasted skinnyfats get from reading these kinds of threads
Zachary White
cold showers are literally a stupid fucking meme though, you think chad does cold showers? chad eat swhatever the fuck he wants and does whatever the fuck he wants, he doesn't fap, but that's because he doesn't have to, doesn't watch porn because he doesn't have to, no porn and no fap might grant benefits but coldshowers is a stupid shit meme lmao, literally only genelets fall for it it's over.
Jonathan Sanchez
that's ok, just be a racist neo nazi vegan to balance things out
James Lewis
and white women
Ethan Parker
Chad lives a life that benefits him and makes him a Chad naturally.
Following your instincts and the epigenetic fuck ups in your past has lead you to your state Chad following his instncts and epigenetic opportunities to become who he is.
What is the point of your post?
Adrian Edwards
Why would you be vegan when vegetarianism is effectively just as healthy? >muh ethics Yeah I get it you want third worlders to replace you
Jaxson Johnson
Daily reminder that the only way to be a successful vegan is to have a staple starch that's really nutrient rich unlike all the shitty ass legumes and grains most people eat for their calories.
Sweet potatos are the most nutrient rich plant based staple in the human diet, bar none. Then add in whatever the fuck you feel like adding for protein and some fat.
Vegan diets for the most part suck ass, they're too low in amino acids, have too much fiber, or are filled with fucking sugar that rot your teeth unless you brush them after every meal.
Sweet potatos, nut/seed butters, lupin beans and ONIONS products like natto are the only foods that are even worth eating as a vegan. Green vegetables are a waste of money and they are barely even digestatible due to all the fucking fiber they have. A lot of people just get worse and worse digestion from consuming a lot of them, reaching a point where they just shit out anything with fiber that they eat, it's something that gets worse the longer you keep doing it, I went through the same. Sweet potatos have all the vitamins and minerals you need, except for vitamin D and B12. One sweet potato has like 1000% of vitamin A RDA.
Henry Thomas
>what is the point of your post that cold showers are a stupid shit meme
Isaac Smith
Racist vegan master race reporting in
Austin Carter
No that's not true. You only need white potatoes and a multivitamin.
Hudson White
Because you made this thread im gonna go out and get a bacon cheese burger. Your strawman comics are powerless against me
Everyone who isn't clinically braindead is a racist. Can't help it. She looks retarded. Someone shackle her in a closet and only feed her Pedialyte for a month.
Xavier Perry
Pretty sure the only people who become vegan are iq 110 retards who think they're smart, so I believe that they have a higher average iq.
Low iq people are too stupid to convince to do something so stupid. Its a lot easier to convince slightly intelligent people to act like retards because they're smart enough to ignore reality and convince themselves of things.
Kevin Collins
I don't think it's ignorance, I think it's just a hive mind cult and they repeat the lies to each other so much, they pretend it's true.
>Clear cutting forests >Deep tilling soil >Chemical pesticides use
Vegans literally pretend none of this kills animals, then when you inform them the truth, they do mental gymnastics to dodge reality and deflect all blame on meat eaters.
Sorry OP, reality has already redpilled us on your starvation cult. I recommend you recruit new members at the DNC, or tumblr or huffpo, you'll have much better luck there.
Are you guys fucking retarded? What do you think livestock eat? Crops usually. Where do you think livestock are raised? Land, which is often arable.
Henry Ward
Ok, so whats better for the environment? 1) eating a vegan diet which requires you to get all your large variety of fruits and vegtables and other specialty foods shipped in and flown in from all over the world, simply for your desire to eat a vegan diet or 2) eat locally sourced, ethically raised animal products. Whos really doing more damage here? Its the vegans. My diet is 80% locally sourced animal foods and I harm far fewer animals than any stupid, mislead vegan does.
Landon Reed
That's a fairly specious argument too. You can eat locally or domestically grown produce in the same way you can eat a locally butchered animal instead of regular produce or meat from the supermarket. At this point you're just arguing that people should eat locally. I grew up on a small farm myself in the country myself. It's not like we only gave the animals local feed or something, after all they need a metric shitton of it and we need it cheap. Behind every pound of meat you get after you butcher an animal there's a lot of plant material and water and other resources.
Ethan Reed
>You can eat locally or domestically grown produce in the same way you can eat a locally butchered animal instead of regular produce or meat from the supermarket
Yeah, good fucking luck getting all your vegan shit locally. Good luck getting nuts, beans, bananas, and oranges locally. Good luck getting chia seeds locally. Even the stuff you can get you cant get it year round. Its all seasonal. So eventually youre forced to go to the overseas shipped supermarket stuff when the seasonal vegetables aren't available - as opposed to the animal products that are there year round
Jackson Lee
You don't need luxury items like oranges or chia seeds to be vegan the same way you don't need Kobe beef imported from fucking Japan to eat steak fucktard. Either way it takes literally hundreds of gallons of water and hundreds of pounds of plant foods per pound of meat to produce staple meats and we use nearly half of our arable land to produce livestock. Do you not understand how much fucking higher a cow is on the food chain than oats or wheat? It's always more resource efficient in ecological terms to get food from lower on the food chain. Stop acting like you know how farming works because you buy local steak every once in a while like some faggot hipster.
Tyler Foster
>You don't need luxury items like oranges or chia seeds to be vegan the same way you don't need Kobe beef imported from fucking Japan to eat steak fucktard.
Nigga, chia and other seeds and nuts are the main vegan omega 3 source (shitty source compared to fish but thats beside the point) beans are the main protein source, and grains arent even healthy for you. So, again, good fucking luck finding local, ethical sources for these, that, once again, will STILL NOT BE AVAILABLE YEAR ROUND.
Joseph Davis
Like I was getting at, even if the diet includes an amount of produce that needs to be shipped from other parts of the country or South America it's not even comparable to the amount of crops that need to be shipped for cows and other livestock to eat so you can raise them. Not to mention water and land usage being exponentially higher for livestock than an equivalent amount of food in crops. The gap in your understanding of how the food chain works and how biological resources circulate ecologically is literally at the level of middle schooler. For the record, caring about the environment or any animals besides your dog is fucking low-test. But vegans aren't wrong when they say eating stable crops is less wasteful than eating meat all the time. Why do you think for most of history meat itself was a luxury item? Because it's extremely resource-intensive to produce compared to plant foods. Stop being so fucking delusional about the issue and just eat meat and don't care anyways dude
Fucking animals. The people who wrote that act as if the child developed rickets in a single day rather then it being a slow painful process that she was subjec to for years of her life.
They treated her like a fucking pet and accessory to their lives rather then their child.
Lincoln Moore
You know what happens when cows eat grass? They poop on it and it regrows at an amazing rate
Eli Foster
I btfo-ed you in the last vegan thread and will keep doing so until you hang yourself. The world could do with fewer retards I don't care what you eat, as long as its thick bleach. >.blogspot >.blogspot >.blogspot >the tab (and a "life" article with no sources to boot) >.blogspot
You just come in, throw shit around, and get mad when people ask for valid sources. Get fucked you brainlet cunt.
doesn't change the basic economic fact that it costs more than feed cows, and that that land could usually make more foodstuffs if it had crops on it than cows.
Ayden Martinez
>Daily reminder that vegans are literally high iq >Vegans are not a subset of people the consume only plant matter but a higher number on the Intelligence Quotient scale Truly the most intelligent way to start your thread is by attempting to claim your cult is a high intelligence collective but subsequently using "literally" completely wrong.
gee, if only there were multiple types of crop with different nutritional profiles, maybe hundreds of varieties, and modern scientific planting techniques or even old but proven methods that deal with this unheard of and new issue of soil depletion
Kevin Morgan
OP used it in the informal sense to emphasise the point, rather than as an adverb. >claim is supported by scientific evidence Was he supposed to use metaphorically? Also your "criticism" means Jack shit as it neither refutes the claim or presents any counter evidence.
Grayson Long
It cost more due to the lower number of ranchers who actually produce grass fed beef, which is a low number due to the longer amount of time it takes to get beef cattle to finished weight. Farmers have 18 months to return their loans to the bank and cattle take longer than that to reach finished weight when they are fed grass. Grass regrows with no assistance after the cattle are finished with it, but grain crops need immense amounts of water, fertilization, and treatments to avoid pests and mold. Bison are a related member of the ruminant family and were able to sustain hundreds of millions on indigenous in the Americas with no systemic farming eating primarily grass and foliage.
Adrian Rodriguez
>grass fed cattle aren't a sustainable food source for any countries population relative to the land required to rear them >supporting the Jewish banking/loan system which enslaves nations under currency and debt by supporting animal agriculture Not the guy you were replying to, and there were a few other things I could point out but those are just two highlights.
More and more vegans leaving veganism these days Vegans always say that more people are going vegan than ever before. Well its like a revolving door. People start it, they feel like shit, and then they move on. 84% go back to animal products
Jaxon Martinez
I like how you completely ignore the protein point.
Jaxson Anderson
Still doesn't solve the low protein and vitamin content of these plant foods.
Nolan Nelson
But more people try it, meaning more people stay with it. If 1% try it and 0.8% give up every year that's still a. 2%gain and its increasing much faster than that. Where else would the numbers for their claims come from?
Does it really matter if everyone else is doing it though? If you feel its right you should try it.
Landon Lewis
What are these plants low in and why do you need it?
James Wilson
My "criticism" implies that OP isn't a member of any intelligent group as is demonstrated by their lack of understanding what "literal" means and therein throws their claim into question. >Also your "criticism" means Jack shit as it neither refutes the claim or presents any counter evidence. My statement was limited to OP's opening line and in no way address the link's contained within. Nice try though
Connor Kelly
>Implying the Jews aren't the ones pushing Veganism. >Implying animal products are not the nutritional foundation of a strong White populace.
Dylan Nelson
Protein. You don't get big on salad.
Tyler James
Okay, I can see how you think you have a valid point, but in this sense the term had been used informally, which wasn't the correct place to use it, but it wasn't an incorrect structural use as it was an emphasis rather than an adverb. So your implication that vegans aren't smart because OP used a word incorrectly isn't really a solid one, and your claim against OP doesn't quite hold up to rudimentary scrutiny. Nice try though.
Owen Long
Per calorie vegetable matter has more protein though, and its not just protein you need to "get big", you need to consider your total caloric intake, and in that case a plant based diet is optimal.
Carson White
Protein Omega 3s Vitamins
The bioavailability of plant foods is fucking terrible. But youre probably one of those morons that thinks protein from bread is just as good as protein from meat
Camden Sanders
Honestly you're fucking dumb >>grass fed cattle aren't a sustainable food source for any countries population relative to the land required to rear them This is only based only on the current allotment of land being used for grass only cattle ranging. >>supporting the Jewish banking/loan system which enslaves nations under currency and debt by supporting animal agriculture To start off the issue I was pointing out was clearly with the banks, but you're really fucking stupid. Immediately to you to jump to some "DA JOOS" boogeyman. Farming as a whole is fucked by the banking system, and all their money is directly tied to the financing they can get from them. There's no way around moron, thus why so many choose to get as short of turn around as possible. Grassfed and pasture ranchers operate on smaller scales and work their way up and therefore are able to be less dependent on loans to keep their farms afloat, and thus are more financially independent.
Jeremiah Lewis
Everything you said in your previous argument implied the Jews are pushing animal agriculture with loans etc though? This would also be supported by the government subsidies to animal agriculture, despite it being a gradually failing market for some time now...
Easton Hughes
>I have no evidence or logic to back up my claim so resort to ad hominems Get fucked retard
Oh my god this is bait right. Vegetable protein is worth fuck all compared to animal protein.
Tyler Roberts
Hey look it's Hom J. DINSAH Founder of the American veganites cult, dropped dead at age 66 lol. I guess the celery stalks just didn't do it for his heart lol. F.
Robert Thompson
Any evidence to support those claims?
Joseph Taylor
A Plant based diet will;
Increase VO2 max without sacrificing peak torque exerted by muscle mass, leading to greater performance over time mdpi.com/2072-6643/8/11/726
A meat based diet will so the loss of vital bacteria to your gut, which aid in digestion and immune response. nature.com/articles/nature16504.epdf Whereas a plant based diet results in increased consumption of polyphenols, which have been shown to work on microbiota to convert into bioactive compounds which improve health measures such reducing blood pressure and hdl cholesterol sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0955286313000946#s0035
Charles Wilson
"Literal" does not mean emphasis and only stupid people think it does
Jonathan Kelly
If you think plant protein is worth fuck all I can tell I'm speaking to a nutrition PhD so am well out of my depth I guess...
Sv3rige'$ "complaints" about her were pretty invalid lol. Her bod is amazing and the vegan diet does not appear to be damaging her, yet. I hope she's quits before she goes full skeletor like Emily bite size.
It is quite literally in the Oxford and Cambridge English dictionaries >a literal manner or sense; exactly. ‘the driver took it literally when asked to go straight over the roundabout’ ‘tiramisu, literally translated ‘pull-me-up’’
>1.1informal Used for emphasis while not being literally true. 'I was literally blown away by the response I got'
I wasn't the last poster talking about bank loans.
And as far as diet is concerned, any group, Jews or otherwise, that has authoritarian designs, would definitely want the slaves on onions/onions diets. The elites eat human children for Christ's sake. Go to an elite restaurant and it's all steak tartare, wild caught fish and caviar. The elites know that animal products are the basis for human strength and vitality. Every group of humans that were big brained and robust (Cro-Magnon, Neanderthal, Pacific Islanders, etc) ate animal-based diets. East-Asians eat a lot more fish and protein than people realize.
Aaron Walker
What user said plus...(unlike you obviously) a lot of ranchers want their cows to have some good times before they go.
>Chillin in a pack with their cow friends >Making babby cows the old fashioned way >Grass smorgasbord ever day cows favorite food.
Naturally you attack them for this. You want the land sterilized and every living thing on it killed so you can maximize onions production, because you're a true "animals rights advocate.