/FRAUD/ - Dosages Matter

Welcome to /fraud/, the steroids and blogposting general.

Before asking your stupid beginner questions (yes, they are stupid), make sure to read the r/steroids wiki:

reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index

Yes, it's reddit, but it's a good resource.

SARMS are a mild way to take anabolics. They aren’t going to do much for you if you don’t already have your diet and training on point.

Don't ask us to help you dose your AI. It's very individual.

Oral-only cycles put strain on the liver and cause a shutdown of natural testosterone production for not a lot of benefit. Just pin and thank us later.

No source talk allowed.

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Fuck you druggie cucks

Give me several good reasons why I shouldn't take GH15s advice for my first cycle,

its like test + NPP + tren + hgh,

why start with a faggy first cycle?

Bostyn relied too much on gear to actually give himself a good chance. You see that ugly fucking gut he has? clear sign of abuse. there’s a point where everyone has to tap out and switch to business only mode for longevity but after seeing Bostyns 1 year transformation i’m confident gear abuse was his downfall

Because the moment you start getting sides you won't know what compound is causing them, since you haven't got any previous experience on any of the compounds

Say you are dieting. Do you go from 500g of carbs to less than 50g in the first week, or do your progressively lower as required

Holy shit jm is pathetic.

reasonable point, but what sides? couldnt you just get bloodwork and if high estrogen, use more AI or whatever ? why do you need to know which compound is causing the side effects?

if it was me, probably. I'm not saying GH15s cycle is a good first cycle, but in his posts, he didnt seem to imply that a beginner should do anything different, he was just like : here is the drugs you need to get huge... so was he presuming people would have other experience other than training and dieting experience?

Let’s not forget the water bloated mess in this pic from the last thread

> inb4 mogs me and i’m jealous

not even fucking close. if gear + copious amounts of food gave me a belly like that i’d drop every fucking bit of gear and go down to a cruise dose.

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I believe everything should be progressive for the sake of long term results. Say you jumps straight to ultra low carb. It works very well for a few weeks then stops working. You cant go lower carb so you have to add cardio, as such wieght training goes to shit amoung other things. Gh15 is right in that the biggest people use those compounds. But they arrived at that point by adding things as required. Not shotgunning a pharmacy on day 1

Does getting gyno hurt?

And if your aunt had a dick, she’d be your uncle.

test saying retarded shit again

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>why do you need to know which compound is causing the side effects?
Because it isn't necessarily estrogen. That stack could have prolactin sides and even dopamine reducing side effects from both the NPP and the tren.

A simple blood work won't point out which the culprit is. Meanwhile if you experiment with 1 compound at a time you will know how your body reacts to each one and know which one is causing what issues.

>doesnt know what HGH belly is

lmao is everyone on fraud a retard or what

no just testify

> talking about HGH belly like it’s something everyone wants

I know it’s an HGH belly + food that’s why I said “GEAR”

lmfao absolutely fucking retards ITT who praise some guy with 30lbs of water weight

you act as if anyone wants to look as pathetic as you

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idc if anyone wants to look like me or not i’m only focused on myself but it’s hilarious watching you guys drool over someone who has a gut like my grandfather

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>hover around 350lb 1rm on bench
>friend lets me try his new slingshot thing
>hit 375lb x3

wtf did i jut lose my natty card?

No, it's that your form sucked and that's why your bench plateaued. It's like wearing a back brace designed for posture and wondering why your back feels much better.

Breh it looks like you're wearing shoulder pads

>hey bro can u take a photo of me?
>i wanna show off to my internet friends

Looks pretty dry for an offseason. Wonder home much the waist comes in precontest

>hey bro can u take a photo of me?
>here, use this potato

Its not the camera. Testify is actually the loch ness monster

dosages don't matter you fucking idiots? Ever hear of Jon Jones? fuckin guy was caught with picograms and he looks better than most of you

I had them implanted

actually a video he took and posted

> looks pretty dry
> dry
fucking kek

soon. i’m still human haven’t left this species behind yet since my dosages have been too pussy

I'll remember to fondle his tits a little when I'm bulldozing his asshole.

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this place is toxic af

see you never again

bye

if you have never used anything and go straight into tren, you WILL have to deal with depression, if you are susceptible to it, you're going to get suicidal withing a couple weeks and have no idea how to deal with it or accept it's because of the tren, not kidding about it

tren is not known as "single maker" for no reason, almost no relationship can endure a men who doesn't know how to control it taking tren, 0 patience, getting explosive, aggressive, depressive, euphoric, suicidal, wanting to fuck anything in your eyesight, sometimes cycling between them in less then 5 minutes, the reason is a lot more about knowing to deal with strong psychological effects than to learn how to deal with physical ones

if you go slow and learn, a lot of times you don't even feel this shit

Its off season dude. I agree the gut is horrendous but you try keeping dry on suplus and 1g of test. If these photos are current you are not even dry on a cruise

Is testify a discount chemfag?

woah, serious shit, i'm actually the user who asked the question and

to be honest, my relationship is already strained sometimes because I have zero patience, im explosive, agressive, depressive euphoric , damn, tren sounds like my life already!

Not even close. Their approach towards roids is on polar opposites

OK but also you won't sleep through the night and your bedsheets will get soaked with sweat every thirty minutes

i’m not dry on a cruise because I keep growing but the point is he’s holding on to so much water it’s laughable

> brb let me run a Kai Greene dose cruise + blast while being nowhere near his size

do you understand where I am coming from now?

I remember liking chem so no

>your bedsheets will get soaked with sweat every thirty minutes
This annoying feel. It wouldn't even bother me that much if I didn't make my sheets get stained yellow every time I use tren.

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thanks for the info, I'm not gonna take tren anyway, I was just wondering why people dont hit a heavy first cycle and do it properly,

im 32, and married.... I have good natty test levels and i dont want to fuck with it at this point in my life - If my test ever drops below 400 , I'll self administer TRT and just use the docs for blood tests, but im well over 700 right now.

Does any body have any recommendation for t-shirts or long sleeve shirts to work out in? Way too cold outside and inside of my gym for A shirts and free company cotton t-shirts hide my gains too much for my taste.

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I wear those Arizona brand shirts that jcpenney sells for 6 dollars sometimes

I think you are being overly critical while not having a great deal accolades yourself. The dude has a bad gut i agree, i see where you are coming from saying he isnt dry. I think a one gram cruise is asking for trouble but i have not reached that level of muscularity so i do not know what is neccessary. His arms are lagging but you dont get that thickness without "paying your dues"

Universal makes some nice fitting tees if you can stand wearing supp branded clothing

Ten Thousand

He's just insecure which is weird because he's big enough to impress everyone who doesn't post on bodybuilding forums

>he’s holding on to so much water it’s laughable
All that matters is how he looks on stage, what he looks like in between is irrelevant.
Still for the shit he runs and being offseason he looks great.

You are nowhere near his size and yet you still laugh at him for the way he looks at prob his worst.

one gram cruise is kai greene size and this guy is blasting 3g of test. I really hope he has his pro card at least. I know it’s “not all about competing” but too many guys put the work in and are scared to put themselves out there. HGH gut is just not my thing and even Arnold said it looks fucking sloppy

I am insecure and that’s why i’m upping the doses. But for myself, not to impress anyone on here

you look like a pregnant whale friend

I seem to remember this guy and I don't think he even competes/leans down. This is his normal form.

what’s his height and weight?

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Pretty sure he competes at least, as far as my memories go.
Nice forum posts were linked in the previous thread, a good read overall.

No clue. But you don't need to see his height and weight to clearly see he's bigger.

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Can I see your arms

Jm come back pls

okay he’s 278 that’s massive. still too much test IMO.

archives

What about them

few weeks ago

>inb4 using preacher curl machine

it doesn’t matter

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It is alot of test but notice he doesnt mention any other aas. In terms of managing sides, maintain his health (as best he can) and cost effectiveness you could make an argument for such a protocol

doesn’t make sense. he could be running nandrolone and less test and yeah he looks massive but it’s water weight and his gut is disgusting.

Thanks those are big arms

Run grams of nandrolone and let me know how you control the gyno you fucking retarded faggot holy fuck kill yourself

He could be doing a whole bunch of things. The point im getting at is your opinion is not the be all and end all, you may be right or wrong but you have never been that big, you have never had the same make up, financial situation or mentality as him. So to talk in absolutes or try a claim you know something he doesnt is really ignorant. Just chill dude. Nobody expects you to know everything

I do, actually.

why do ppl post this kind of pics, it doesnt prove chit, for all we know you could be holding a plate

How does a person become this cynical?

true

why the fuck would I go out of my way like that to impress someone like you?

nandrolone aromatizes at or less than one fifth the rate of testosterone. The only reason anyone believes nandrolone is estrogenic is because every dumb bastard who started roiding after the dark ages started (1999 onwards) has always and will always use large dosages of testosterone.

Just to demonstrate this point, for a very long time scientists erroneously believed nandrolone was a non aromatizing androgen. Pros in the 70s lived on nandrolone (if we're to believe casey viator, guys like mentzer were doing as much as 2.5 grams a week) and gyno was rare (not to mention hair loss)

Check out the pro ranks these days since testosterone became the drug du jour. Every other cunt has had gyno surgery and is shaving his head.

try running deca by itself and let me know how much you need to increase the dose just to get E2 into the high normal range. Meanwhile just 250mg of sustanon can send some guys above normal range in a matter of weeks, just lmao at these false beliefs about how these drugs work

this. fucking incels im just too lazy to type all this out. with that said, gains come faster with higher test. i’m doing 500 test / 375 npp for my next cycle

I immediately thought his feet were fucking gross. Looked at my feet and realised they were gross too and now im sad

k

imagine being testify and asking a girl if she is a virgin over text message mid sexting and actually believing them when they say yes HAHA

Some virgins are FREAKS

why would I ask over text message? we’ve had plenty of conversations in person and even after sex where we talk for hours.

how do you feel knowing a woman will never love you as much?

Doubt it

Why the fuck does it take so long to get verified for BTC wallet withdrawals on CashApp

How cna a girl love you if you don't even love YOURSEFL

..deep....

How can you say you love her if you can’t even eat her poop?

I was thinking. This girl is Japanese and is a weeb. Therefore she must know some Japanese. So I could message her in Japanese asking her if she speaks it and maybe we could go on a date under the guise of refreshing my Japanese.

I can't take her ice skating like my usual tactic because she's a figure skater...So I'm kinda fucked.

I'm getting obsessed again.

If you take her rock climbing you can stare at her butt while you're belaying her

Ask her to go skating anyway so you cant get some sick tips. Fall into her arms so she can catch you

Nice larp lmfao, swiper is long off gear and he wouldn't post pics from 2011. Everybody Google swiper bodybuilding or swiper mesorx

Also guys I guess the thing from my dried up pee the other day was its hardness, atleast I know my kidneys can do their job well

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c o p e

deep as fuck and relatable

sick of your blog posts just shut the fuck up and do something about it already

Absolutely mogged you cuck

>weaboos
>doing any sort of sport which requires upper body strengths

Uhh...

No...She's meant to be the one falling into my arms. It's very rare to find people who are any good at skating here so I just lucked out with her.

I'm good at 3 things. Dressing myself like a fag, ice skating and chess.

Shitposting too.

Looking good brother, only jealous faggots will say otherwise. If you don’t mind me asking, what age did you start using gear at?

Dont take it so seriously. I do like that you put effort into picking a date but with your personality you will plan extensively and then even if their is some minor deviation from the plan you wont manage it well.
There is a hella good japanese restuarant in southbank. I cant remember the name but i could ask my sister?

That guy's natty

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Tell her that you want to cut yourself because of her.
That should impress her.

are sarms less effective than old methols like m1t. 1ad?

Just take a high dose of oral DHEA instead

he’s twice your size breh lmao

just treat girls like you would your little sister, best advice I ever got. tease them, be a bit condescending, always make the decisions etc.

You unironically look 10x better than testify imo

I will steal her from you like I did with estp

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THats swiper...

that’s swiper faggot and I unironically look 10x better than you no matter what you run

6’5”
225lbs
Won’t translate from burger units
On last six months service in Marin Crops so maybe I’ll be able to put on decent mass when I’m out

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are you too young to remember those, lol? they were legit. required pct.