Why does no one in the gym do a proper squat i.e. ATG? no one does the full range of motion

why does no one in the gym do a proper squat i.e. ATG? no one does the full range of motion

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Some people say it’s bad for the joints, most people don’t do it bc they’re pussies and don’t want to do more work

Because most people don't have 6 inch long femurs like clarence o'deca there. How your squat looks is entirely down to anatomical proportions, all the best squatters have relatively similar proportions regardless of their height.

Because its not necessary. When you go ATG you decrease the tension on your legs and increase excessive compression forces at your knee joints.
Also this

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going full atg would require them to start from squatting the bar instead of getting a 2pl8 quarter squat within weeks. Newbies usually choose the latter routine, and then wonder why their legs are still underdeveloped when they hit a 4pl8 quarter "squat" after a few months, despite still being unable to do 2pl8 with full ROM

because of anatomy and its not even needed

Harry Squatter

>stretch reflex
>less pressure on the knees

the given reason is that it deloads the hamstrings, which I guess is legit depending on what you want to do

because my femurs are 2 feet long

because not everyone wants constant knee pain and because not everyone has perfect flexibility and anatomy for ATG squats

Full squat takes strain off hamstrings, I squat until hamstrings max out on tension then go up, which is a bit south of parallel to floor.

Also, full ROM blows out knees, and I like my knees.

i do just not high bar cause i want to keep walking past the age of 40

all these fucking pussies who won't full squat because of excuses. Get flexible faggots.

p.s. i cant touch my toes pls kill me

I’m 6’4” with proportionally long legs and can squat >lmao4plaetz.jpeg ATG

All these fuccbois have no excuse

>full ROM blows out knees
How many memester YouTube “fitness” channels do you fucking watch?

Get learnt

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and everyone in the gym claps when you squat too

by gawd, the amount of cope in this thread

the real reason is because it's a lot harder, significantly lowers the weight you can lift, and pretty much nobody has the flexibility to do it starting out.

be like Clarence, do ATG squats. Train your flexibility.

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>maximum compressive forces
yeah you may not blow a ligament, but you're still fucking your knees

They probably are lifting more weight than they can handle and don’t realize they aren’t squatting to proper depth.

I can squat just above parallel. Any lower and I fall backwards. Inb4 do these flexibility shit things, nah it's been a year and no improvement.

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Brah you gotta put your upper body forward a bit. If you fall backwards it means the weight is behind your center of balance. How does it take you a year to not figure this out?

Because you need great ankle mobility to squat ATG. Look at how far forward CK's knees track forward, most people aren't flexible enough to do that without months of working on ankle mobility.

retard

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This

Retard who wants to squat correctly here
What's ATG?
I'm just kind of following Starting Strength's squat breakdown but without a mirror it's difficult to tell if I'm doing anything right. Have at least overcome my terrible balance issues and can squat consistently now with unloaded bar.

>be like Clarence
Clarence form is objectively shit, yes he goes ATG but he does a good morning.

>just have short femurs bro
>just have enormous ankle flexibility bro
KYS retard.

Mobility.

My dorsiflexion isn't great and my calf can strain if I go too deep. Causes some knee pain.

At least in America. People don't have the flexibility for it even with Weightlifting shoes. I learnt this the hard way now my kneecaps are being pulled of center by my quads causing them to hurt.

ass to ground


the ideal squat btw while i make this post is about 75 degrees, slightly below parallel. if you dont go that deep 1. ur butt will look flabby even if ur legs look good 2. idk how legit this is but my old coach told me that if you dont go deep enough you will pull and tear hams/glutes (i wrestled and play basketball so glute strength it is relevant)

Hip crease below the knee, anything more is unnecessary.

Why would a non-Olympic weight lifter waste hours every week training mobility to make their RoM longer (thus making squatting harder) instead of spending that time training to squat more weight just below parallel?
Nobody strong cares that a bunch of 2 and 3pl8 ATG squatters think their squat doesn't count because they have worse ankle mobility.

Not necessary for everyone. Also there's people with long femurs that find it hard to achieve below parallel.
I go ATG but I admit going parallel will not fuck me up with time, and that's why I do it sometimes or when I'm tired AF.

You either have shitty form or problems on your inner ear.

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The longer your femurs are relative to torso and tibia the more dorsiflexion is needed to stay upright. People with the right proportions can get into a ATG squat barefooted without much mobility work.

>tfw huge legs from high volume squats
>tfw long as fuck femurs and knee problems prevent me from going atg
i want nothing more than to go all the way down without falling backwards or rounding my back slightly

LONG FEMUR GANG REPORT IN
ANOTHER REMINDER TO FOLLOW THE PATH OF FRONT SQUATS TO SALVATION

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Front squats require even more dorsiflexion and knee torque to stay upright and have the proper position than back squats do and are a bad choice for the long femured folk to make their primary squat.

Clarence him self says he only squats that deep because he thinks it looks better. Which in my opinion it does too. But its unnecessarily harder and you have to be pretty flexible to be able to do that properly. I believe going that low doesnt have any other benefit other than stretching the knees to become more flexible. Not entirely sure on that. But he's always been very flexible since he was young so that's why he's even doing it.

but its the only way i can hit depth without falling backwards ?? anything you can recommend to hit depth on back squats without leaning forward and destroying my back

But you'll still use hamstrings on your way up.

Brace better, film yourself, ask people knowledgeable and strong for help, wear proper shoes, work on your mobility, have a more thorough warmup. Any of these may help fix your problem

It’s not proper form

cope

Cope harder. Im long femur gang and I still get low. Open your hips like everyone else and squat.

I have long af femurs. They're just short of the length of my torso and I go atg.
I think it's more to do with flexibility and balance

He literally says in the book not to squat in front of a mirror

Goblet squatter reporting in.

Have up barbells in fy17 and been going strong.

Also my db bench for 5 is 105lbs and my weighted dip is 110 for 5 so that's proof you don't need barbell squats

>tfw no ankle flexibility after a dozen sprains from basketball
>tfw long ass lanklet legs and manlet torso

Squatting deep isnt gonna happen

Stand with legs apart the proper distance. Get ready to do a jump. That should pretty much be your stance.

>Im strong on upper body exercises so that proves you don't need this lower body exercise.

It is anatomically impossible for me get THAT low without rounding my lower back. that being said I go well below parallel but I dont go ATG just t o be mired by some fag who squats 135 or some shit.

so tell me how do I stop my asswink at the very bottom that leads to lower back rounding ? because after a certain point I literally cant go lower unless I tuck my butt which fucks you up in all kinds of ways. so I will never go as low as Clarence here no matter what I do...

Legs are inherently an endurance muscle.

All you should be doing is goblet squats, kb swings and 800m sprints.

I have really bad balance and extremely bad flexibility due to injuries in my legs. So I am starting squats on the smith machine and Im slowly starting to hate them less.

Hiwever I discovered doing a really wide stance as in a "sumo" squat gives me way better balance. In fact I think I could squat like that with a real barbell.

So could a wide stanced squat make a decent primary squat?

You read the absolute most stupid shit on the 1st...holy shit kys

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Heh

Post body w/ legs

Partly a lack of knowledge and part ego you see people quartersquating 2 plate with difficulty and claims they do 2 plate for reps

Everyone is sitting most of their lives now
= shortened harmstrings are common

most normies do that, I have a coworker who claims to squat almost 400lbs while saying his DL is around 315lbs. But then again he already showed my how he squats and it doesnt even really qualify as a quartersquat thats how high he stays with his hips. and he claims he cant go any lower because of mobility issues...

cope

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Many people benefit from a wide stance squat but no one should use the smith machine. It prevents you from utilizing stabilizing muscles and it locks you into a potentially dangerous bar path

my knee hurt until I started doing lowbar

is this atg?

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Oh alright. I had always assumed smith machine was safer.

Your ass is not on the ground, so no.

neither is clarence's but everyone is saying he's going atg

Because my knees are fucked from being obese for a decade so i can't get that low doing bodyweight squats while holding a chair.

I fucking wish

nope, thats a failed rep, pal

So lean farther forwards to balance it out. It's not rocket science.

I squat like Clarence because it's literally harder for me to stop and reverse momentum in mid-air than it is to just keep squatting all the way down and explode back up.

how into good rep?

It's a shame you're still dumbbell benching the baby weight. If you even tried to lift a 105 lb db your body would snap

Acceptable.

Can't today man. I got pretty drunk last night so I still got some bloat going on. I can tomorrow if you make a thread requesting it. Do it around 7pm est. That's when I'm off work

what's better than acceptable?

It might be “safer” if you’re a complete novice and have no idea what you’re doing. Much better to start with low weight and emphasis on good form on a barbell squat.

try really focusing on your ass in relation to the ground. maybe lose the clothes they may be restricting you

hmm i like the way you think

Then do mobilty training, I got my depth from falling forwards at parallel to full ATG squats that touch my hamstrings/ankles. All i did was squat down as far as I could everyday when doing various things, brushing teeth, showering, after/before the gym etc. Just hold the squat in a deep position where you feel the stretch multiple times a day, eventually you will like the squat position and find it comforting

Inb4: short femured manlet
6'1 and always been told I have long legs, and they are a little disproportionately long, but you gotta do your best with what you got instead of complain about how long your femurs are without making a chance to improve flexibilty. Blog end.

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