Anyone have experience with SARMS? running my 3rd cycle correctly in the sense ill be eating more than ever on my bulk.
Anyone have experience with SARMS? running my 3rd cycle correctly in the sense ill be eating more than ever on my bulk
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not exactly samrs but I'm on mk-677 for 3 weeks, eating like I never had before and cured my insufferable insomnia, if only this existed when I started to lift and had to force feed for years, I don't even care anymore about next week igf and hgh blood work, I'll never stop taking this shit...
That is exactly sarms...
thats awesome man, i hope it goes well the rest of the cycle. has it made your appetite increase at all?
selective androgen receptor modulators, they mimic the same enhancements as anabolics while avoiding the negative side effects. while keeping nearly all gains. sounds to good to be true right?
Yeah I wasn't asking what they were. He said mk667 isn't exactly a sarm, but it is
it's not an androgen modulator but a hgh secretagogue despite being thrown in the same category
thanks! that's why I'm eating a lot, my appetite is through the roofs, anything I've tried to increase appetite before made me sleepy as fuck
I've being lifting for 13 years and If I had to point the hardest thing to me, it was the force feeding (I went from 123lb to 262lb and my stomach didn't seem to have expanded at all...), I don't know if the increased appetite will diminish or disappear but I'm loving it right now
I think it would be difficult to do a cutting with it tho, the "good"thing for me is that I use tren on cutting cycles and that destroys my appetite completely
are you OP? are you testing your test? a friend of mine used 4 ostarine bottles in a row and had cycle-like results, but his test dropped to ~150, I really believed it would not impact natural test levels but id did, at least on him, it would be advisable to do blood work between cycles to make sure your body is being able to keep up with it
The main questions I have are, is it available in the USA without a prescription and do you have a reputable seller you could recommend?
From where did you buy it ?
>is it available in the USA
It's a research chemical not approved for human use. There are no reputable sellers, only middle men who buy in bulk from Alibaba.
These are drugs for which we do not know the long term effects. MK-677 was discontinued from studies due to carcinogenic properties and hearth growth.
Ostarine (from OP's image) is classified as an S1 Anabolic Agent category of the WADA Prohibited List.
The main take away these are ILLEGAL and we DO NOT KNOW the long term effect. These could riddle with you cancer, destroy your brain, destroy your heart, destroy your testicles, your blood, your endrocrine system etc. And for what? An extra 5lbs of muscle? You genuinely need therapy if you think that's a good trade off.
Don't take short cuts. Exercise and eat well. And if you're going to become a fraud steroids are actually safer. Go check out /fraud/
>was discontinued from studies due to carcinogenic properties and hearth growth.
Links?
Also, I want to know about the long term reccomended dose of ostarine. It's not suppressive at all and it seems to work.
All I know is that they kind of OD'd lab rodents on it and they came up with multiple kinds of cancer.
The same thing happened with artificial sweetners at much lower doses. And since that's in everything meaning that we get far more proportionally then those rodents were given in those studies it's kind of a wash.
I know we have people saying that steroids are safer and that we know what's in it....but the black market is a fucking shit show and we have no goddamned clue of what we're getting week to week day to day batch to batch.
We have concrete proof that the gear that we are getting today is complete SHIT compared to the stuff the old guys were getting back then.
And some of the stuff we're getting is even just laced with various metals poisons and mislabled...god knows what.
So we're all just fucked.
The first lab to make real pharma grade 60's era junk is the one to become the godking of gear in the west.
I have looked into a SARM forum and the people there say that you definitely need PCT after an Ostarine cycle.
It's only been 3 weeks, but how's your skull? I was reading into 677 for height gains, and read 677 could make your skull grow, since those bone plates never fuse. I don't want to end up like Jimmy Neutron.
>mk667 isn't exactly a sarm, but it is
It's not, you braindead retard.
>MK-677 was discontinued from studies due to carcinogenic properties and hearth growth.
When was this? The only "sarm" that I know of with any connection to maybe causing cancer is cardarine
Been on MK677 for about 5 months now. I don't even take it for the gains (which are minimal), rather this shit changed my life by fixing my terrible skin.
You probably don't but it depends. It may cause mild suppression because it binds to the same androgen receptors your natural test would. The effect is so minor you probably won't need to but it's a good idea to have an AI on hand during cycle in case you have effects like gyno, fin in case you experience hair shedding, and something like nolva/clomid on hand in case your post cycle test is bombed out.
Getting bloods done before cycle, immediately after cycle, and 4 weeks after cycle is a good idea.
Also considering how often prohormones are cut into SARMs, getting your liver checked on week 3 is a good idea, and having something like NAC on hand in case your liver starts to take a hit.
Just do steroids.
>it binds to the same androgen receptors your natural test would. T
Forgot a sentence. That means your test that would have bound there is now floating around, free to convert to estrogen or DHT.
I myself have some MK-677 and LGD-4033 for my next cycle.
Is EA back? Ran some rad cycles from them and got some gains but I wasn't 100% on top of everything. Been wanting to try again but then shit hit the fan for them.
I'm on my second day of LGD-4033. AMA.
when they used 3,000 times the 20mg/day dose in mice, there is no connection with the dose humans have been using
Do I need bloodwork before starting MK677? It seems to be relatively safe to use.
Ever done it before? I'm 4 weeks in.
fuck, that's great to hear, I'm looking foward to start seeing this effect, I'm 31 but I look older probably because of steroid use and a shitload of stress during my early 20's
and hyperplasia gains from hgh take years to make a difference, in the long run it may have a difference but I doubt it will be possible to prove any gains where from mk or any other hgh form usage...
not the original website, but they opened an EU based one and if you American you can import with no problem
Probably not, honestly. The longest study was 2 years for MK-677.
No adverse affects of any kind were found that you'd need bloodwork for. Just mild edema and joint pain.
only if you suspect cancer or if you wanna do a before-after/during blood work to check your source
Pretty unlikely they'd cut prohormones into MK. More likely to be just bunk if it's suspect.
I tried it a few years ago, but am 99% sure what I had was bunk since it had zero effects. Are you noticing anything yet?
It's rolling the dice for pussies too afraid to pin. Anabolic steroids and hgh have been around for decades with no negative side effects if dosed properly ("hgh gut" is due to obscene amounts of insulin plus hgh... but big Ronnie did it so the retarded way the IFBB works so huge gorilla bellies are okay) but while MK667 is cheaper and doesn't require a pin, we don't know if in 10 years your cock randomly bursts into flames.
mk677 is not a SARM
Dylan Gemelli and all his chronies are full of shit, they just want to sell you as much overpriced crap as possible
lmao you retard, this is the exact same logic that cardio bunnies use when they think even touching a dumbbell will turn them into arnold over night.
Ostarine is one of the few SARMs that has had significant research done in to it's human safety. It was tested as a low dose on cancer victims who struggled with muscle wasting and had decent results.
You stupid stupid stupid-assume you know something even after it's been pointed out to you maybe you're not exactly at the top of the brain game-fuck. Die in fire.
im on LGD4033. best thing ive ever taken and best investment in my lifting career. ive experimented with prohormones before and oral AAS and while ive gotten some gains out of them every substance made me feel like shit and the sides were not worth it. LGD makes me feel fantastic, great gains, always pumped and full, energetic and feeling strong, high as fuck libido, i want from jerking 1-2x week to once a day minimum.
I also take MK677 and i went from sleeping up to 9 hours per night and being constantly tired to waking up after 6 without clock fresh and energetic, though I started taking it midway through LGD cycle so i dont know how much of this is caused purely by MK.
bone grows because of hormonal signals. main thing that would change are your brow ridge and jaw
stop with sarms meme, if you want weak steroids with weak side effects, inject HG
They recommend Clomiphen
yeah they didnt do anything, dont waste your money