Is it really possible to achieve this kind of progress naturally in 2 years? He says he is

>puberty
>In school, probably works out 4-5x a week at the school gym
>eating big
>good lighting and pump

I don’t think it’s that crazy desu

Yes. Hes probably on GOMAD and did SS at some point.

are u his boyfriend or something?

>added to my pasta file

roid rage???

>3D arms
>natty

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>>Admitting to using illegal drugs and cheating your way to gains

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Ok, now this is epic.

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Holy fuck how delusional are you

>illegal drugs
Doesn't matter. Cops don't care about dude who uses roids. It's the same as someone admitting to smoking weed. You see full youtube of it.

Absolute UNIT

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Are you blind or retarded?

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"for slin". (Insulin)
It's right there you 'loids.

>sheeeeesh

>Cops don't care about dude who uses roids.

This is Sweden though

thelocal.se/20140807/police-ransack-house-of-unusually-large-man

OP's guy is going to prison to be raped by Mohammaed, Mohamad, Ahmed and Mohamad

Also remember that there are some countries (UK for example) where using steroids is not illegal.

Not in two years man. People will say others are hating because they dont have similar gains but this pic in 2 years is suspicious as fuck to say the least. Ive been lifting for 6 years and have made solid gains but dont have a sick taper like this guy which is fine. My buddy first started lifting with me (he got me into going with him at the same time) and he was always a generic savage from the start. Skinny but even when we first started and he was untrained he was strong and had a decent physique. He made sick progress in his lifts and his body and I dont think he could do what this kid did in 2 years.

Steroids are okay but whats not okay is trying to play it off as natural. Maybe guy in op's pic is natty but most likely not. Who gives a fuck at the end of the day.

He's big but still a child.
Of course he an insecure lying faggot.

He's almost past his prime.

Thing is, the only way to monetize a roided body is shilling for supps companies. Supps companies won't pick anybody who admits to being a roided.

I agree it's shitty though because you have impressionable and retarded people like OP, who have their standards warped and will inevitably roid themselves when they make (in comparison) shitty progress

absolutely not. If you believe that is natural you're a retard.

that HGH really plumps up your lips.

Didn't ask for your opinion

This is pasta, right guys?

>R-right?

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Absolutely PATHETIC. The amount JEALOUSY in this thread is STAGGERING.
It's ok to be lazy if you want to but don't discourage people who are just starting out because someone has better genes than you.
Why would he LIE about not taking STEROIDS?
Many people take them and it is ok, it's literally like trying to cover up that you take CREATINE.

well he’s lying then

LMAO.

genetically gifted teenagers play sports you retarded copelord

Well, he was entering the growth spurt age of life, but still almost certainly roided.

he just did more than 18 reps for maximum hypertrophy,
maybe creatine, pump and good lighting make him look slightly bigger but this is still natty territory

Funnily enough he's going to be shorter than he would be if he waited to roid.

Estrogen closes growth plates. Excess test from roiding converts to estrogen. Even if he used some of the blockers, there'll be more estrogen than normal, thus closing growth plates quicker

I bet he got bullied at school desu

joe rogan tier bro science

He's only 17 so he's still at school

Do people just do these threads to cling to the delusion they have a teeny chance of ever looking ripped natty if they live like monks and do everything perfectly? Because you aren't going to. Maybe incredible genetics exists, but like a unicorn you'd already know if you had superhuman potential 8 weeks into lifting.

Anyone you see looking fit (not just a little bit lean with abs and some muscles) is on roids. You won't look like them without steroids

he has a pretty stupid look on his face. That's what he must be compensating for with a body like this.

cant he shut his mouth close?

If he's 5'8 & just worked his upper body yeah it's possible. His lattismus make he look way bigger than he really is is.

you retards keep spewing out "good genes" left and right like you even know what that means

This seems definitely achievable. Don't know about within 2 years though.

but that guy is more genetically gifted than you will ever be

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This

Ppl just need to try it out once dont forget the 36eggs/day

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC34445/

>In some mammals, including humans, the growth plate is resorbed at the time of sexual maturation. This process, epiphyseal fusion, terminates longitudinal bone growth. Estrogen is pivotal for epiphyseal fusion in both young men and women

Or are you trying to say test doesn't convert to o? If so, why do you think aromotase inhibitors exist?

The kids going to be a midget for life because of his insecurity. Ironic

Yup back in highschool I managed to look like that in less than half a year coming from an even worse frame. This guy is obviously not roiding as I did better than him in less time and I was only using protein powders now those were the days. Before my back injury, ofcourse.

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Why does he look like a fish?

>that face
lmao
also lmao @ all these fags pretending that what looks like 20+ kgs in muscle mass and also height growth is perfectly natural. that ammount of gainz in 2 years would barely be possible for a person with decent diet, which this boy as a teenager is certainly not doing. he still trained his ass off, but no way this dude isnt jucing

Nah, I sincerely don't buy it. That's too much growth in two years. Maybe he was on prescription hormones because of a growth deficiency, either way it wasn't all natty.

look at these traps, top natty!
when scrolling his ig you can see the roidacne kicking in
>that face
>zipper abs
seems like he doubled his shoulder width / circumference in 2 years, perfectly natty amirite?

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Is this pasta, or a fresh cope?

No fucking way this nigger lips is natty. Listen, OP, if they look like a freak, they usually are. Eric Bugenhagen is peak natty. Does he look like a freak? Does it set something off on your radar? Nope, he's just strong as fuck.

Yeah sure, a little Swede went from that on the left to bigger than prime Mike Tyson in 2 years natty.

Retard

xDDDD

steroids =/= creatine
do you have serious brain damage

hmmmm

Welcome to Jow Forums Oliver, I hope you enjoy your time here!

desu lifting is a cope for people not athletic enough for sports.

The pic related is actually pretty tame comparatively, he's only 17 years old and his arms are like 50% bigger than his fucking head. This is impossible to achieve in 3 years, roiders like him muddy the waters of progress of weightlifting when they claim they are natty and hide behind their great "genetics" and "years of lifting", he looks fucking absurd and ridiculous especially for a 17 year old.

Hes got those roider delts

This is bait, but for the record, people lie about not taking steroids because they want to take full credit for their gains and attribute it to their own hard work, those who are open about it know that there is no way to hide it and they take it because of many, many reasons.

What's the natty limit when it comes to delts?

Even bigger delts now. in the first pic he kinda looked aesthetic, now he's just another roider.

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Destroyed his body for this shit, sad

>clavicles- grow 3 inches
Check
>grow hair
Check
>60 lbs of skeletal muscle
Check

>Oliver foreskin
Kekked

Also
>use inflate tool on lip
Check
>e-bloat or 19-nor bloat face
Check

I remember being this new

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It's not America. In Scandinavia, the cops only need a suspicion of steroid use and they can go full gestapo mode. Surprise tackle you to the ground with 5 police officers at the second you open the door then have every centimeter of your house ransacked (including your electronic devices). All from a before & after photo or accusations. No proof needed.
And their justification for this to the media is:
>Steroid use is associated with dangerous violent criminals. We are totally keeping you dyels safe from these scary bodybuilders.
But they rarely bust anyone who's actually a violent person (most have zero shit on their record) so it's all fucking fear-propaganda bullshit. Same thing with the "dangerous" "life-threatening" weed.
So no shit he's not going to admit to roid use, he's definitely hiding his gear away from his home. Scandinavia isn't as free as the media glorifies it to be. We can't decide what to put in our own bodies but alcohol that makes people into mongoloid apes is 100% legal. So they can shove that "freedom-index" back up their ass.

>would not be where I am without the support
>less likes than the average instawhore who posts dog face pics

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If all Swede men roided maybe for once they could defend their country against shitskins.

kek, I know right. I hate to admit it but the majority of Scandinavian men have turned into naive pussies who avoids any kind of conflict, hiding their weakness behind "tolerance". A total disgrace to our forefather.

I remember those days, wanting to get as big as possible but not knowing realistic goals or basic limits. Keep that drive and determination and focus it into liftingsnd eating you’ll gain some size eventually

Explain

I emerge ehen I first started and I saw some guys at my campus gym who’s arms were so big I couldn’t fathom it. Not Arnold sized just super round and I guess 3D. I guess there were on gear

Please be bait

Even Eric is suspicious. But in any case he would be good genetics + peak natty mode.

He claims he did this in 9 months. natty or juice?

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Why do roiders have such weird faces? Like clearly the roids are what give them gross bodily proportions but it seems to fuck up their faces too.

If you think roiding is ok then you're a weak minded insecure fucking faggot.

I've seen bigger guys than him who were natty, what makes you think he's roiding

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The face muscles start to hypertrophy too. The masseter and mylohyoid muscles start to grow which gives the more defined jaw + a whole bunch of muscles which shouldn't be growing at all.

Looks like shit to me

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He’s only like 10 there, or an extreme late blooming 14 year old

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Fucking kids these days I swear to god

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Can you talk more about Scandinavia?

>I've seen bigger guys than him who were natty
And you know this how? Did you see them piss in a cup for the drug test?
Did you check the other images on his insta? You have to be a grade A retard to believe it's naturally possible for the body to hold this amount of muscle. Our biology is simply not coded for it because it's completely useless and detrimental for survival. This guy gained a lot of muscle insanely fast, also while he cut. His coarse face also screams roids. He should have a smooth twink face at 17.

No I'm just good friends with them and I don't believe they would lie to me about something like that
>Our biology

Funny, I'm getting my Masters in medical Biology right now, but please tell me more

Oke Oliver

He's 15 there you idiot. Learn to read. 2 years progress, and he's currently 17.

natty or juice?

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