The name of this program implies that it is well suited for fitness noobs, however this is probably not the case for the majority of you. Since you're on this website, chances are you grew up playing video games and have never worked out a day in your life. Your testosterone levels are probably super low, your bone density is low, and you have weak joints and bad posture.
If this sounds like you I would recommend staying away from heavy barbell lifts until you have built up your SÖY body enough to handle heavy lifting (unless of course you want to snap your shit up).
Lets keep it real, the reason you want to workout is to look better, right?
>no lol I just want to get stronger
Shut the fuck up and quit lying to yourself. There is nothing wrong with wanting to improve your appearance. The sooner you can accept this the faster you will see results. Heavy lifting will inevitably get you caught up in the numbers game where all you care about how much you can squat, how much you can deadlift, how much you weigh, 1/2/3/4, etc. It's all bullshit. Outside of this website, nobody gives a flying fuck how much you can lift or your one rep max. What you look like is what actually matters.
For these reasons I would recommend that you noobs out there do high reps. High reps (15+) will reinforce your tendons and joints with little risk of injury. You will also build up muscular endurance and cardiovascular strength. Over time your testosterone levels will gradually increase, which will lead to more muscle mass and bone density with less body fat. Not to mention you look like a fucking trophy if you stick with it long enough and you clean up your diet.
Unironically this. I tip my fedora to you, fellow scholar.
James Murphy
What actually is starting strength? Not bait, i really dont know
Jacob Kelly
Sandnigger shit kys
Nathan Morris
It's an alright starting program that focuses a lot on 3 basic lifts: squat, bench, deadlift. It's honestly just kind of a meme since it kinda forces you to become a meatball lifter since you normally do really low rep high weight.
Lincoln Green
>come to board dedicated to fitness >assume the people there aren't fit >write blog post
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Eli Reyes
A program that revolves around heavy compound barbell lifts.
Every exercise has you doing a whopping total of 5 reps per set.
Jack Cook
you're supposed to work on a strength base so you can then work on volume
Does SS really only have those three lifts? SL5x5 also has OHP and Rows. Just the three lifts sounds like so little.
The book itself is a nice read, Rip has some nice tips to help parts of your form that you wouldn't think of (ie hand placement during squats). His program is absolute shit and he has a delusional understanding of diet and TDEE. SS is recommended a lot by people don't do SS and never did SS as it was intended.
James Mitchell
Just do squat press diddly and add chins rows dumbell bench and curls
You can lift more and use more intensity when doing smaller rep ranges
Cooper Robinson
Then what the actual fuck do you do?
>SS is a meme >PPL is a meme >Fullbody workouts are good, but SS is a full body workout
WTF?!
Nathaniel Thompson
GSLP, Ivysaur Or make your own full body program 3 Days a week, 2-3 compound lifts 3x5(not including warm up) with different major muscles followed by a couple of accessories 3x10
Daniel Jenkins
So day A could be pull ups, OHP, and squats followed by isolation for arm, chest, or legs?
Bentley Gray
OP doesnt squat 4pl8 therefore his opinion doesn't matter.
Andrew Parker
Nigga just do whatever you want and stay consistent. As long as you are consistently getting sore and eating right you'll make some gains
Ayden Barnes
Hey, what's this chart thing called? Is there a website or some shit?
Isaiah Gonzalez
symmetricstrength.com
Jacob Thompson
I liked SS. I did it for about a year until I felt like I was plateauing on my major lifts, then transitioned to a pretty serious PPL regime. Feel like SS got me to a point where I could really accelerate quickly in more focused programs.
I’ve been distance runner my whole life so I was thin and frail. SS put muscle on me and got me where I needed to be. I recommend it for anyone who is fitness focused (swimmers, runners, etc), but has never focused much on lifting.
Isaiah Thomas
>thread is full of losers defending a cuck who stole his routine from bill starr Jow Forums is and always was a joke
John Gomez
SS isn't BAD. It's not great either. I would say that the best option is Stronglifts with some additional arm work (skullcrushers/curls) and cardio. From there, go to Texas or Madcow.
Tyler Baker
SS recommends you start each lift with just the bar. If you can't handle the fucking unloaded bar, you need to be in the hospital. Also there's an entire chapter for secondary lifts to improve flexibility, muscular strength, etc.
Liam Wilson
if you are too new to not remember ivysaur posting then you are too new to recommend programs.
Jeremiah Ross
its a good start because it gives you a base to work off from.
maybe 2019 you should stay away from Jow Forums or Jow Forums in general. user
I agree it isn't for absolute beginners but I like the program.
The problem is that 5lbs a workout session is too much of an increase for somebody who has never done serious resistance training especially considering that would bring somebody up to their 5 rep max waaay before they can do proper form and have proper form ingrained into them. Its supposed to take like 1000 reps for the central nervous system to perform a compound movement without consciously thinking about how to do it.
Also the vast majority of people who don't lift do not have the flexibility or posture to do the movements correctly and safely, especially the squat.
After trying SS twice and failing because of injury or pain, I came to realize I had shit mobility across my entire fucking body and some pretty bad anterior pelvic tilt going on. Its taking ages and lots of foam rolling and stretching just to be able to do the movements properly and pain free.
Logan Powell
>Reading a book written by a cuck just to lift weights Kek
Samuel Fisher
you're the only person on this board who used starting strength for its intended purpose
I've been doing SS for 7 years. I can squat over 1400lbs. I have consumed a small truck worth of milk.
William Clark
>he doesn't own his own milk cow never gonna make it
Jeremiah Campbell
I haven't read too much into ss but getting strong on 5x5 is good because it gets you to the point of being able to lift relatively heavy weights at high reps. Instead of starting off at 10lb for 10 reps. Remember it's "starting" strength for a reason.
Kayden King
Can anyone name a routine that actually recommends 15+ reps? I want to take the hypertrophy pill but no routine seems to fully commit to it
Ayden Gutierrez
Any program that has AMRAP sets won't stop you to reach those 15 reps or more.
Nathan Murphy
I feel like if you're hitting 15 for your amrap in most of those programs, you're not doing those programs as intended tho
Jayden Miller
SS is a meme unless you're a NEET who can spend every waking hour eating and sleeping. if you have a job, you're probably not gonna be able to recover properly
If high reps is so good why isnt your picture your physique, or is it because you have no idea what youre talking about and youre a Jow Forums poster
Daniel Miller
Which is going to get you bigger?
A.) Increasing your deadlift by 150lbs
B.) Doing fluff weight for 3x15 every day in the gym?
There's a reason that even most bodybuilding programs have you doing heavy compound movements with lower reps, followed by isolation/accessories at lower weights and higher reps.
All a beginner is going to get out of 15+ rep squat sets is a spinal herniation from form degradation.
3x15 tricep pushdowns or dumbell rows or whatever is not something you need to dedicate a whole program to; just throw them in at the end of whatever progression you're using.
Julian Hernandez
OP here, laugh all you want but I got this high rep scheme from Kali Muscle. I've made decent progress following his advice (high reps, constant tension, mind-muscle connection, etc.)
This is dumb. Nobody should train in only the 1-5 rep range or only the 8-15 range. Both are useful. If you only do 8-15 you will have un-realized strength and low neural efficiency. If you only train the 1-5 range you will have high neural efficiency but not enough hypertrophy to back it up.
There's nothing wrong with beginners doing squat/deadlift/bench at 5 reps. Just don't kill yourself trying to add 5 pounds to muh bar every workout like Rippletits says. Start light and progress as fast as possible with no form breakdown while leaving 1 rep in the tank.
Cameron Martin
>laugh all you want
I wasn't laughing at you, I was being earnest. I've been looking for an honest-to-god fuck-strength balls-to-the-wall hypertrophy program for awhile now.
I was going to do the russian bear program to accomplish this, but when I looked into it Pavel seemed to keep changing his recommendations on how to run it pretty wildly and in the book it didn't really seem like it was thought through so for now I'm just sticking with my current program
Daniel Reyes
>1 year progress >learned to pull his waistband higher and move his elbows outward
thick, solid, tight
I sure feel stupid for running SS in my noob days
Christopher Gonzalez
you literally got smaller lmao you have to hike your pants up progressively more to hide your birth-giving hips and give your torso more width 0/10
Bentley Phillips
>tfw dont care how I look. But srs dude stop the stupud assumptions everyone who is here is a virgin nerd who spent their enture life playing vidya its dumb. SS has a place as a supplement to young athletes as detailed in the book. Yes if you are only going to the gym for exercise higher reps would make a completely fragile specimen less probe to injury. Starting strength accompanying some sort of bro split would be better though. End this thread please also how the fuck do you sage nowadays, did they change it I am always phoneposting and when i sage in the options field it doesn’t let me post. Wtf 4/channel/
Matthew Peterson
A fellow patrician brainlet. As a scholar myself I understand that muscles have no use in the modern world and are only used for vanity. Quit kidding yourselves, you just want to look like the jock who bullied you in high school.
SS is good for what it is but this board pushes it like the group of autists it is. It’s not for aesthetics at all >but muh foundation of strength You can get one while also working to look fit
Grayson Mitchell
why did you also hoist your pants to the heavens user
Camden Ramirez
Didn't read any of this thread but sports medicine in high school knowledge alone taught me that SS and 5x5 is a sure way for n00bs to enter snap city (at least lower back pain) real soon.
We have like 2 threads a day on low back pain from kids that got memed into this crap.
Hudson King
Because this thread is fucking retarded and the guy who posted it is dyel and made no noticeable gains so it didn't warrant a serious response.
Alexander Lopez
You look like shit user Jesus fucking Christ you’re hiding your fatass stomach and you still look like a tub of lard
Dominic Miller
Post yours faggot. Also I'm not making threads telling people what routine to use because at least I'm aware my physique isn't good enough to be giving that sort of advice.
Threads that give good advice are never to be shunned. Defending shitty programs with shitty physiques are to be shunned. I fell off the wagon for over half of last year and I still look better than you
This is correct. I've been at it for a year and a half with a ten week gap of just cardio and calisthenics. Started eating more and lifting more and broke 1/2/3/4 recently. Just started a cut now. You do. You also look stronk. If you had created this I'd be inclined to listen.
Charles Morgan
>GOMAD lul
Ethan Perez
you look like shit too lmao. pic related is 1.5 months of SS and i've been off and on with GOMAD
PPL isn't a meme. Only powershitters and Rippetoe worshippers hate on PPL
Landon Stewart
Mommy, Gib!
Lincoln Sullivan
Exactly, I look like shit after eating like shit and not lifting for half of last year but still better the faggot I replied to. And as I said previously it’s alright in the right situation, you’re fairly skelly so it’s a good program and diet for you
Jeremiah Brown
Is this a joke? You look horrible
Jace King
I don’t like SS either op but your only progress is slowly changing the camera angle and slowly hitching your pants up more
Ryan Morris
>so it’s a good program and diet for you So despite looking better than me and the guy who created this thread you agree with me that this thread is trash.
Eli Stewart
Bro. What. Took my squat from like 135 to 365 on ss Bench from dropping 95 on my chest and not being able to press it off to 195x5x3 on ss Deadlifts from barely 225 to an ok 335. (ss admitidly doesn't have enough deadlift volume) I looked better after than I did before. Got mired almost on the weekly by people who hasn't seen me in a couple months. SS is not a meme, it's a beginner program. It should be obvious that an increase in strength represents and increase in muscle. LONG term that can easily translate to a better physique. Nobody says you should do SS forever and become a powerlifter.
Isaac Stewart
This is a train wreck of a thread and OP is a faggot, probably high effort b8. I think SS+GOMAD is mostly shit but implemented short term in the right situation it can be beneficial. So yes I agree with you on that point.
Jordan Lopez
ur a moron
Luke Scott
Tight, that was my whole point. Also I've never done SS or GOMAD, I just hate this thread.
Retards will tell you SS is squatting and deadlifting 3 times a week, but they're (as I said) retards who didn't read the routine The SS Routine is actually (always AxBxAxx BxAxBxx) >2-3 weeks of: >>A: squat 3x5, OHP 3x5, DL 3x5 >>B: squat 3x5, Bench 3x5, DL 3x5 >2-3 weeks of: >>A: squat 3x5, OHP 3x5, DL 3x5 >>B: squat 3x5, Bench 3x5, Power Clean 5x3 >6-9 months of: >>A: squat 3x5, OHP 3x5, DL 3x5/Power Clean 5x3 (alternate) >>B: squat 3x5, Bench 3x5, Back Extensions (I forget the reps on these), Chins/Pulls 3x5
Sebastian Collins
Lololol this little bitch
“I don’t like hard things so here are reasons why you shouldn’t do them”
