IS coffee good or bad?

You know what else also fucks with your health? Food. If you eat too much food, you will get overweight and develop problems. You know what else gives you problems if you use it improperly? Medicine. Yes, even medicine when used outside of its intended use case can be life threatening. You know to evaluate the whole picture my friend, nothing is truly bad or truly good. Life isn't that black and white.

This image reminds me of a game I got with a graphics card I bought maybe 15 years ago or so

So why add another "maybe its not bad" to your list? It's fucking retarded and if you have a rational mind you quit coffee and get some sleep.

>being a caffeinecuck

How much coffee do you drink per day to the point where you can't sleep at all? Do you drink a lot of it at night? Coffee isn't exactly some kind of mysterious magical serum, it's a heavily researched substance and doctors know how it affects the body.

>never drink caffeine
>wake up at 5-6am without alarm clock
>tired and fall asleep by 9-10pm every night

Feels good to have a healthy circadian rhythm, after years of being a NEET loser getting up at 2-4pm everyday

so you also know the many negative side effects it bears on the body from stained teeth, bad breathe to hearth palipation, gut flora, changed brain chemistry,

>i need muh drug cus I can't function

I fucking hate coffee fags.

I don't drink coffee but it's for other reasons. My body can't really take it and I do blood dialysis every 2 months (so the caffeine in my body gets filtered out anyway if I even try to drink coffee).
>gut flora
>heart palpatation
These are extreme side effects. That's like me telling you to never go outside in your entire life on the offchance that a meteor may crash on you. Like, c'mon dude.

Coffee is one of the only true redpills in the world. Second only to DMT

I don't drink coffee but I drink a lot of tea. Mostly jasmine, peppermint and green. They have pretty much no calories, the ones I buy are caffeine free, and are a tastier way for me to lower my T and stay hydrated.

Coffee is great.
>single origin beans roasted within the week
>use burr grinder to grind beans when needed
>make coffee with Chemex
Tastes so damn good you don't need any sugar, milk or creme and only need one cup after lunch to satisfy for the day.
It's the people who get double-doubles from Tim Hortons, sugar filled shit from Starbucks or like chugging the freeze-dried Folgers garbage throughout the day that give coffee a bad name.

>lower my T
why would you want to lower your T?

I take caffeine pills when I need to stay awake/wake up. I think people should avoid it if they can because it does raise cortisol levels so ideally you do not consume it all but life isn't perfect and sometimes stimulants make your life easier.

Coffee is shit
>shit taste
>dependence
>feel good that makes you lethargic after a couple hours
>where is muh drug

shit shit shit it is also from india

it's mostly grown in africa and central america

The origins of it are actually from Ethiopia and the Middle East, they were the first cultures to cultivate coffee beans and ground them and use them.

>its even worse.

bad

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication
No more water bro! Just go to the hospital and ask the doctor for H2O injections directly into your bloodstream. Have the doctors control the exact dosage too! C'mon dude, don't be so dense, everything has its positives and negatives.

You don't need other fluid than water ask any doctor. Coffee has many side effects and barely any benefits that also eventually subside. I guess you are just not a logical person and you need your fix.

.....I already said, I don't even drink coffee I'm just stating that there is literally nothing wrong with consuming coffee if you do it responsibly. What's wrong with preferring logical, methodical research about a substance over mindless fearmongering?

1 cup of coffee can give withdrawal symptoms.

yeah such a good substance.

can anyone confirm that this is technically the composition fallacy?
>muh logic
heh

>composition fallacy
it's not retard.

It's not that strong. We're talking about coffee here, not heroin or meth.

>tastes shit
Stop drinking bad coffee.

>1 cup of coffee can give withdrawal symptoms.
Yeah you might get a headache for a day, the absolute horror.

Drop dead
We aren’t monks
Literally none of this is true

coffee addicts. stay away from them. bad foul breath and terrible temper.

there is absolutely no reason to drink coffee its a drug for poor people.

I'm not even angry, jesus. All you've been doing so far in this discussion is either calling me an 'angry coffee addict' (even though I'm perfectly calm right now) or you list some extreme side effect that has like a 1 in a million chance of happening. Chill, dude.

again. no reason to drink coffee.

then which fallacy is it?

Okay dude, you seem pretty dead set on never drinking coffee in your life. Godspeed bro.

>fallacy
you are already wrong
I'm there is absolutely no reason to drink a poor drug that has negative effects on your health. Please don't come with muh antioxidants or that poorly made study about alzheimer.

the thing about you pathetic caffeine drug addicts is you try and claim it has health benifits which it doesnt you want children and all the adults to be caffien drug addicts to make yourself feel better ... your pathetic and need to be shot in the brain the truth will come out in 50 years i quit cigs and coffee and both withdrawls feel the same... dont respond fag your wrong

no actually i think it is composition
>"fuckin indians and their shit coffee"
>learns it actually comes from different places
>"uh well, those places are EVEN WORS so coffee must be EVEN WORS TOO"

had a good laugh but certainly true. get a good sleep and you don't need a shit drug that also tastes like dirt without additives.

The thing is your reading comprehension and putting things together is just bad.

When I said It's even worse I meant the places not the coffee. Stop being stupid.

>The thing is your reading comprehension and putting things together is just bad.
this sentence is just bad

>
>its even worse
this appears to be a statement about coffee itself, not the places.

ugh read again, but rather grab a book son.

>it will raise your cortisol levels way too much (though your body gradually builds a tolerance to it),
so drinking coffee makes you immune to stress

drug addict fag

no you become dependent on it

Orange man bad

Kratom is better

If youre going to do a mild stimulant/feel good drug then at least take something that doesnt make you stink of sweat and dogbreath haha

>High blood pressure
Big claim. Citation needed.

its good

youtube.com/watch?v=OTVE5iPMKLg

God tier, good for the liver too

yeah i read that cosmo article

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10556993
There's like a hundred different studies about it. This is just one of them. Also, most stimulants if not all will usually increase your BP. It's a given.

people with dark skin colors are genuinely bad people

caffeine is really good at preventing colon cancer and it reduces muscle fatigue

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Just stick to 1-2 cups a day and abstain for a week when you build tolerance.

>today is day 5 of nocoffee
>literally feel the exact same
when am i going to get superpowers?

Everything is good or bad with some give and takes.
I don't mean to be an ass, but I don't understand why more people don't know this.
Eat/Drink according to your needs.

yes

its good, stops you from getting alzheimers

This is now a Chaos Theory thread
youtu.be/4wEZv3cwoMs

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A tablespoon or so of coffee throughout the morning fucks with my sleep.
I can fall asleep, but the quality of my sleep is lower, and I wake up tired.
It also increases my blood pressure by 10-15.
These are all anecdotal of course.

However, many researchers are being paid by coffee industry to produce studies that show coffee is beneficial/harmless. Same as tobacco industry is currently misleading the public to think that it's nicotine which is harmful and addictive.

Good in moderation when used right.

I used to drink a large dunkin donuts before I competed in my sport, helped a lot and made me feel great.

If you drink it everyday though, you become dependent, and you need a cup of coffee just to get up to normal levels of energy every morning, which becomes a chore

keep in mind when asking Jow Forums about if X is good or bad that they are 80 IQ morons that think their kneejerk reaction to everything outweighs any amount of scientific papers because those are just doctored anyway, and the kneejerk reaction is always "everything you enjoy is bad because I once saw a quote with magnus aurelius that said stoicisim was cool and good"

I measure my blood pressure twice a day and coffee raises it.
Tea in any quantity does not.

sure, but you can still have blood pressure within the safe range

splinter cell fellow boomer?

Nah it's around 143 with coffee which is pre-hypertension. Again I'm not saying everyone gets their blood pressure bumped up with coffee, but most people never show any symptoms of hypertension anyway, and are unlikely to measure their blood pressure.

If I was some hypotensive chill dude I'd be all over coffee probably, I love the taste. As it is I'm too tense and nervous already.

has antioxidants
good for liver
good for kidneys
prevents alzheimers
protects against certain forms of cancer
protects against diabetes
tastes amazing
gives you a boost
the real question is why wouldn't you drink it

>drank 20 cups of coffee
>diarrhea kicks in
>no appetite
>cant concentrate like a porn addict adhd retard
>too much stomach acid
>cant sleep
ill stick to coke thank you

It's an addictive stimulant that tricks your brain into thinking you have energy when you don't. You're better off eating refined sugar so that you get real energy to kick ass and feel good.

Drinking coffee is just working out your adrenal glands. I drink coffee every day so my glands are pretty huge haha. In a fight or flight situation I am highly favored from the sheer volume of adrenaline excreted.
Don't skip adrenal gland day