Why do short guys want to be heavier than they actually should?

it's for contest condition, i.e. 6-8% shredded and dry
but yeah it's pretty legit

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Those are natty stats at stage condition.
Keywords: stage condition.

>tfw nigga’s don’t even know gh15’s chart.

maybe at 20+% bodyfat. 5'10" 180 lbs lean is quite big

No, but according to the chart i'm within the natty limit if every inch subtracted also subtracts 7 lbs (am 118 lbs)

>contest condition
So they're not realistic whatsoever.

youre not in contest condition

Fml then

they are though. Just add ~15-20 lbs for a "lean" ~10-11% bodyfat and add another 15-20 lbs for mid teens bodyfat

At 5'7 I've never once been at the "ideal" bmi, even at my lowest bodyweight. Not giving excuses like a faggot, I mean it, I'd have to go ethiopian mode to enter normal levels. Maybe it's my build or whatever, don't know.

And then you look like this.

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>schierke posting
A manlet of culture

Bullshit, you're just overcompensating because you want to be as heavy as the bigger guys. Stop it. Just be lean.

bloho is atleast mid 20s
mid teens still has visible abs, though not perfectly defined

Exactly. This is what natty contest condition would look like. This dude weighed in at ~147lbs standing at 5’8”.

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Natty lifting is a joke.

Yep, but who am i to say anything about it. To each their own desu

>natty
>that gyno
Choose one

Where’s the gyno blud

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Jesus fuck. Being lean is a mistake.

6'5 221 POUNDS. At 5'11 that is only slightly overweight. Like Jesus Christ man.

Why do people on Jow Forums try to act like they know what they are talking about.

Is this fuckin...Polly Pocket Lifters Edition?

Depends of how lean we’re talking. I know I’ll never get contest shape lean but getting lean like pic related or even a few digits higher should be just fine.

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It was already the case before I started lifting, calm down with the lanklet cope.

Julian Edelman

>5 foot 10
>198 lbs

Welp, looks like you're wrong there bucko.

You just have to be in the 23-25 FFMI range to look good at those weights. Most people aren't, but some are

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You're fat. Naturals with say 10% body fat won't get beyond normal BMI until they have lifted for years.

Most people won't build more than 30 pounds of muscle anyway so it's easy to be in the proper BMI range provided you're lean. Most normal people can be up to about 20% body fat before being considered overweight, you just have to be a lot leaner.

We're talking about natties you moron.
If you roid you can be 5'6, 190lbs and still look lean.

He isn’t in contest shape, OP is just a mental midget who didn’t understand the chart.

YOU don't know what you're talking about. These are contest conditioning weights, start lifting and return in a few years to discuss with the adults
>5'11" 221 only slightly overweight
spotted the american, on a regular nonlifter that's definitely chubby and borderline obese

If you're going to steal information from some manlet's Wikipedia page, don't just pick any picture to go along with it.

He isn't 198 pound in that photo unless that football is filled with lead.

He probably did a cut and water manipulation for the shoot. 180 lean at 5'10 is pretty big.

Middle weights are often 5'9-5'11 and are 155 lean.

Most people never get below 14% and assume that because they can see their abs vaugely in good lighting that they are much leaner than they really are. You end up with a warped idea of how much a lean person will weigh.

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Why would anyone go below 14%?

for the definition, retard

Why would you need that? Are you a nigger?

This was meant for you

back to the low IQ pit

Not him but different strokes for different folks man.

Gee I wonder who could be behind this post...

That depends on your goals. If your goals are aesthetic then sure, but if your goals are purely strength, why care?

Right, and different people have different goals...

Why would 5'10 midget even talk about strength? You will never be strong at that height.

SHUT IT DOWN. How dare someone use the n-word! Reported.

>OMG let me use the n-word please!! you libtard sjw left-leaning vegans and your double standards!!
honestly don't care if people use the n-word casually, but using it as an insult is just really low iq.

6'4" and 214 is pretty damn skinny. Not scrawny, but easily achievable in 6 months of hard work. Having said that I've been strictly doing kettlebell work and calisthenics trying to get back to that weight (I'm 6'4") but only because my dad died and I started thinking more about longevity and general fitness than being particularly muscular.

Self accomplishment? Did any of you miserable fucks ever consider to set yourselves a goal that doesn't exist solely in relation to other people?

>my dad died

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Maybe at 15+%, definitely not at Contest condition. Love how that picture draws in all the dyel newfags that have no clue about building muscle

>OMG let me use the n-word please!! you libtard sjw left-leaning vegans and your double standards!!
We're not asking your permission, you obnoxious faggot.
>I honestly don't care
Clearly offended enough to shitpost about it. Just go back to eddit or wherever you came from. You don't belong here if you're upset at someone using a word you don't like to insult someone with. All the 'GO BACK TO POL' whining won't do anything.

Also, learn some basic history about this place before you post. Nigger has been used as a common insult on nearly every board since it was created, you dumb nigger.

Most people don't lift here that's why they don't realize that even with perfect nutrition and training, you can expect to gain like 3-5 lbs of muscle in your first year of training.

>even with perfect nutrition and training, you can expect to gain like 3-5 lbs of muscle in your first year of training.
So 2.2 killos of for first year of training? Are you absolutelly certain? When I started out at 60kg(132lbs) 180cm(5'11) I gained 6kg of weight in the first month and when the year was over i was 77kg LEAN, this might have to do with the fact that I am naturally skinny(not skinnyfat) but 2.2kg a year in your first year is a bullshit expectation if you're doing everything right.

Wrong

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Average people gain that in their first 3 months lmao.

>In terms of scale weight, a gain of 2-3kg (4-7lbs) of lean body mass (which is composed primarily of muscle) is pretty typical for your first 3 months of training.

strongerbyscience.com/realistic-training-goals/

You look soft as fuck. You’d look a lot better if you dropped 5-10 lbs. but good physique overall still

if you want to be a skelly sure

>natty limit weights at contest conditioning
so absolutely irrelevant in the real world, got it.

Cope

how does one achieve this mode?

mirin

looks good, was he actually weighed or does he just claim that ? because a bunch of athletes inflate their weight.

although he most likely is on PEDs it doesnt matter because his body is obviously achievable natty. and if he takes PEDs it is only for performance and to recover faster not to look bigger.

what do you do for abs ? I look somewhat similar maybe slightly smaller but my abs arent showing nearly as much and I dont have much higher bf. you do direct work or just DL/Squat ?

The only people impressed by your body are other gym members and faggots on Jow Forums
Women like ottermode.

>5’10
>200lbs
>Natty
Get fucked OP

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you're at 14% bodyfat though - not contest condition
you'd wind up sub 170 lbs at 6% and dehydrated

Keep coping Mr. Skeleton

>he hasnt seen the most recent thread about this

just yesterday there was a thread where they showed a poll. apparently women dont like ottermode as much as previously thought. they had chosen a very similar body to his above it.

I weigh 5'8'' and weigh aroynd 160 lbs.
Now tell me i look healthy.

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Stats?

the chart is for people with muscle mass which you have none

Bench- 335
Deads- 500
Squat- 450
OHP- 205

Hi Jimbo.

Most women don't like "contest condition" and think its rather gross. They'd much prefer 10-15% body fat. Ask literally any women. Contest condition is unrealistic and not favorable at all unless your doing some dumb contest. If we're talking about "looking good", 10 to 15% body fat is the way to go. Otherwise you look like some freak. ()

False. I'm 180 and I'm still nearly DYEL tier.

I'd add on a good 15lbs to all these numbers probably.

6'4"
>166
Pic related

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