What's worse Jow Forums? cutting or bulking?

>feeling shitty, making no gains, eating crappy food, being irritable
>feeling great, making awesome gains, eating good food
Hmm, hard choice.

Wow is the sarcasm and cursing really necessary? Completely uncalled for.

Yes.

yeah because the question is fucking retarded

no the sarcasm totally wasn't necessary you fucking reddit cunt

Sorry (not sorry lmao), but I cannot feel bad for anyone. I have no emotions. I am completely dead inside. I am pure physical force led by insane anger. I have no feelings or regrets. I only seek destruction, war and chaos. I will destroy anyone that tries to stop me. No matter who you are. Nigger, spic or human. You will be dead if you ever dare to challenge me.

Cutting if you live with others
Bulking if you live by yourself

I think it also depends on where you started. For me (fatfuck in the past) it's always been harder to cut.

This
Plus my depression or whatever isn't the eat your feelings kind, it's the stop eating kind, so cutting will always be naturally easier for me.
Each time I go on a bulk I have to retrain my body to eat that much

Cutting is literally better in every way. As a former lanklet, food is a chore, not to mention you necessarily see yourself leaner and more ripped day by day, while cutting and doing more cardio I can feel more intense like I'm some kind of space action/post-apocalypse movie hero training.

This, cutting is harder when you live with family due constant temptations of junk food, but for bulking it doesn't matter if I'm alone or with others, I cook most of my meals.

Obviously cutting is harder. You can always pack down more food and eat whatever, but you can't fix overeating on a cut unless you go full bullemic.

Also trying to fit in high protein requirements while keeping caloric intake low is a pain in the ass. I dont want to eat fucking two lbs of chicken every goddamn day

cutting you fucking moron, its not even an argument

They both suck. I don't enjoy eating so getting 4k calories a day is a chore, but seeing massive strength gains and having tons of energy is great. Then you hit the tail end of your bulk and just feel fat.
So you start cutting again. The first week or so it's not bad because you don't really start losing strength, and eating less requires much less work. Then your progress plateaus and it feels like you're wasting time in the gym. You feel weak, but at least you're starting to get shredded again. Your abs and serratus are popping, your bicep, delt, and trap veins have returned. Then you look in the mirror one day and feel small as fuck.
Time to bulk again.
They both suck. After I finish my current cut I'm just going to eat at maintenance for a while and see what happens.

Bulking is nice because of the gains
Cutting is nice because you can just fast for a few weeks and and start bulking again instantly

No joke I was on a 3 year low-bodyfat streak, like 10-12% at most, and while my lifts DID progress, they did jackshit in comparison to this last month when I started just eating hard. Still running, still doing calisthenics accessories and still eating clean, but holy fuck does it feel good to just eat more. I even feel more confident walking around in public just by being full 90% of the day.
>6'2
>170 now
>goal to be 215 at 17% by the end of the year

I was bulking for decades, seemed easy

I'm a 65kg skele trying to bulk and it feels fucking horrendous
I don't ever want to eat again
Every bit of food after I'm full is like rolling a dice where 4 sides are labelled vomit
I'm so sick of every meal I can think of
I'm still doing it because I'm sick of being a twig but it's so shit. Not to mention slow. I'm eating a big breakfast , two lunches, a shake, and dinner every day and I still feel like I'm getting nowhere, plus I'm so fucking weak going to the gym is absolute ego torture

>always hungry
>fewer food options
>watching your strength decline at the gym
>feeling flat due to glycogen depletion
>constantly worrying about keeping protein intake high so you don't lose even more strength
>the struggle with that last bit of fat covering your lower abs

>eating crappy food on a cut
That's entirely your fault. Learn how to fucking cook you idiot

Hey there, quit it with the racial slurs. You don't know who might be reading this

It get's easier
t. Former 62kger

But I still like to get a lot of calories from whole milk

Damn it!!!!

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I need to start drinking whole milk
Always grew up drinking semi

>cut or bulk?
Cringe and bluepilled

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Bulking. At least with cutting, I'm saving money on food.

Don't drink milk you fucking retards, shit fucks with your hormones and is not actually good for you. Get your calcium from bones and mineral sources. Get your vitamin D from literally anywhere else. Eat a tub of cottage cheese a day, but don't drink milk.
Dude at 6'2 I went from 115lbs to 160 in the span of 8 months and only put on a couple percentage on BF. You need to start with calisthenics and free weights to build up your ligaments and nervous system until you're banging out pushups like it's a game, then you move onto barbell exercises and substantial weight. You're suffering because you're not training into this properly. Couple tips to get you going
>drink a liter of water every morning before eating
>have a shake or bar and workout an hour later
>wait an hour or so til you're hungry after your workout and eat a lean, high protein, calcium and mineral meal
>drink water
>eat some nuts and fruits mid day for rolling energy
>drink water
>eat a high fat, red meat dinner with a fuckload of vegetables(garlic, spinach, broccoli, red onions, mushrooms, etc.)
>drink water
Boom. You'll put on weight like nothing and your workouts will get 10 times easier. Stay away from processed grains, get you some iodine droplets for your water, and don't be scared of sodium in your foods. Also stop calorie counting, that shit is for women who eat at Applebee's.

that's regular underpants that one's wearing! THAT ONE'S WEARING REGULAR UNDERPANTS

>worse

Its the same shit.

>im still not strong enough
>im still too fat

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too old

Bulking. Literally never felt bad bulking.

>being fat
>bulking
There's a difference. If you go over 20% BF and call it bulking, you're just a fat shit.

Bulking for me, it's a mental thing. When I'm cutting my brain is saying eat less, and i'm never really in danger of not eating enough because of hunger. With bulking, my brain is saying eat more, and it's really easy for me to over eat.

>my brain
Your brain is not a separate entity. That's you, and your own conscious decision. If you realize you're overeating, yet not making the choice to stop, that's all on you. It's not misfiring signals, it's not genetic, and you don't have a disorder. Go get an EKG and have the doctor show you that your nervous system is not wired out to make you a fat sack of shit. Man up and take responsibility for your bad habits and stop separating and anthropomorphising your own body. You can't tell me you go to the grocery store, black out, and wake up covered in fucking cake and burgers and start crying about how you have no idea how it got like this you fucking retard. Look at your body. Look at your weight. Look at how much you exercise, that includes standing and walking around on a daily basis, and it shouldn't be hard to say, "gee maybe I shouldn't have that fifth burger". Fucksake.

>what is appetite
Fuck dude, how much do you overeat that is not fixable within the next day or two?

Unironically kys.

Appetite is a consciously driven force. You tell yourself, on any level, that you need that food. Physically speaking, unless he gets an EKG and the doc says, "yup your brain is misfiring"(which could have a root in any number of deficiencies), it's just his poor lack of self control. We can argue the semantics of this all day, but the defining factor in my argument is that I don't believe in the subconscious. Everything is conscious, there's just shit that you choose not to admit to yourself, or explore, for one reason or another. Fact is, unless he gets proof showing that it's a physical disorder, he's just a fat shit with bad habits.

>what's worse cutting or bulking
cutting by a fuck-mile. bulking you can just drink all the nice ass proteing shakes and eat sausages and eggs. fuck. i am on the fourth day of a five day water fast to cut and i can't wait to start bulking on wednesday again

>twig, trying to bulk
keep it up man. it'll pay off. give it a year of consistency.

>Appetite is a consciously driven force
No it's fucking not. Are you on NZT or something? For us normal humans, the body says "gimme food" by forcing a certain feeling, which is regulated by hormones, on which most humans I know have no conscious control over. You can ignore it and it will go away after a while, but that's not the same as controlling it.
>I don't believe in the subconscious
OK retard. Take a hormone test, tell your body to produce testosterone without changing anything else in your lifestyle and take the test again.

>tell your body to produce test without changing anything else
This pleb doesn't even psychosomatic.
I'm not going to argue any further with you on this point because you did nothing but break down into insults without any backing to your claim that the conscious decision to eat more and the conscious ideation that you NEED that food is, in fact, not a -conscious- CHOICE. I said, if he goes and gets checked and it turns out he has actual, real imbalances, then yes, he has an excuse for his shitty habits. Without that, it's all his choice. Appetite is consciously driven and you're a lazy faggot, in summation.

Also what does changing your test levels have to do with the existence of the subconscious mind? Fuckall, that's what, you fuckwit.

You claim you can regulate your hormones at will. Test your hypothesis
>the subconscious doesn't exist because I said so, stop arguing :(

>cutting in winter
>been at it for months now
>have made noticable upper body gains, but still have small tits and fupa

sometimes I wonder if getting fat as fuck like I was when I started at 250lbs would be worth it for the motivation alone while I'm here sitting at 170lbs...

I only have about 20lbs of fat to go until I get to where I want to be, but I can't go outside for a fucking walk without freezing my ass off, and I can't go to the gym since no car.

Fuck cutting... It's nowhere near as bad as bulking specially when you're at the finish line.

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