Has anyone here done a Shawn Baker style carnivore diet? It looks really fun and meatheals.com has a lot of anecdotes.
Has anyone here done a Shawn Baker style carnivore diet? It looks really fun and meatheals.com has a lot of anecdotes
Samuel Ramirez
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Noah Diaz
Gonna need some laxatives for that.
Elijah Thompson
I don't think so.
Jace Brooks
I tried it for 3 weeks and it was amazing. Was eating twice a day and I ate every time I got hungry, no restrictions. Went from 13% bf to 11% and weight stayed the same. Was sleeping ~6 hours a night down from 8-9 and feeling so energized when I woke up I HAD to do at least 30 minutes of cardio cause I had too much energy. I can't continue with it right now because of reasons but I'll definitely go back to it in the future.
Dylan Green
It's not a meme diet if you have severe food intolerances like Jordern peterstien or his daughter. Also you have to consume organ meats like heart and liver if you're being serious and trying the emulate a deep winter caveman diet. Flesh meats are really not that amazing for you compared to organ meats, but people dislike the taste. This is why Carnivore is considered a meme diet, because you have healthy people just eating slabs of flesh meats with low nutrition and justifying it with 'Muh ancestors'
Jacob Parker
I don't care about your Jow Forums cool card. It simply looks enjoyable than any other diet while not fucking up lifting.
Hudson Cooper
Works good, just don't take it too seriously or you won't want to keep doing it, you need some flavour with the meat
Julian Wood
carnivore is less of a meme than retarded keto diets that are loaded with fat and have mediocre ammounts of protein, the reason why a lot of ketocels feel great on carnivore is due to the protein intake boosting their blood sugar levels and muscle mass.
Jayden Clark
also fat is important.
It's especially good for people with weak immune systems who cannot deal with the toxins in plant foods. All the beneficial effect from vegetables actually comes from the toxins in them. Normal people have a strong enough immune system that average quantities of vegetables will have a hormetic effect(low quantities of toxins elicit a response in the body that ends up being net positive). You are more likely to be able to tolerate vegetables that your direct ancestors were eating all the time. Eating carnivore will completely eliminate the stress plant toxins place on the body, especially since most people are in fact mildly allergic to at least some plants but don't know it, which leads to mild skin issues, digestive issues, fatigue, mood/depression, etc. While most people don't need a carnivore diet to be healthy, if you want to be serious about your long term health I would recommend literally anyone to do a carnivore diet for 3 weeks for elimination purposes and then reintroduce vegetables one at a time in order to see how your body reacts to it. After 3 weeks your tolerance to the toxins will lessen so if you were mildly allergic to it before you will likely have a stronger more noticeable reaction to it, which makes it much easier to figure out what you can and can't eat for perfect health.
Nathan Powell
Why is it carnivore vs vegan diets all of a sudden?
Being an omnivore is clearly the patrician choice.
Jace Thomas
I don't know. I just want to eat a bunch of meat no plants while being healthy.
Colton Fisher
why would I?
he is pre diabetic, has low test and high cholesterol.
I have to lose some IQ to even consider a high meat diet as a good choise.
You guys are just ruining your health because you cant eat up the veggies from the plate like little kids.
Joshua Jones
Omnivore is more convenient and sustainable. It’s easier to get your protein, fats, carbs, and vitamins; micro and macros are easier to meet. Vegan and carnivore diets are okay, it’s just a lot of people on both sides are the “well I’m actually [vegan/carnivore], I know nobody asked but I only eat [food type].” Variety Who just seem to want to be part of the group and feel like they’re some kind of dietary martyr(maybe that’s more so vegans, but still). Despite what vegans will tell you, it’s not good for muscle and strength training. It CAN be done with extreme strictness, but that gets expensive too. The only vegans who are actually strong tend to be super fuckin’ fat, or are on gear, inb4 alphadestinys natty. Carnivores usually just dislike veggies but don’t go and eat their organ meats that have all the vitamins they’re not getting. A true carnivore diet utilizes a fuck ton of organs and not just the flesh meats we prefer, but most people don’t like organ meats.
Colton Brown
Based and redpilled
John Morgan
the problem is that we are not meant to eat only meat.
over the millions years of out evolution we mainly consumed plant matter.
only in the ice age period we had to eat meat, because no plants weren't aviable.
thats why we have this whole keto shit in our body.
Most of the times human ate rotten meat which is extremely bad for your body.
we had to do to survive but its far from ideal.
If you simple neglect the fact that most of the time of out existence on this plant we ate plants, you are beyond retarded.
It was always much easier for us to gather plant foods like berries and root starches than hunting becuase we are pretty bad hunters.
All that you guys do right now is looking for an excuse to eat a shit ton of meat, because its taste. I get it.
Protein is very taste, broccoli is not.
But if you fucking dare to neglect major science with ridiculous evidence you have to be mentally ill or a child.
Part of growing up is realizing that you have a bias that will prevent your from learning truth.
Carni idiots like Shawn Baker have a bias but nothing behind it.
People will flock towards him because he is telling them what they want to hear.
It sucks that Jow Forums has become such a shithole by now. It used to be more scientific but nowadays its just broscience covered by pseudo science.
Nolan Allen
just eat a balanced diet like a functioning human
do you think chad orders his burgers without buns?
Hunter Watson
>went on a fad diet
>lost gf
fuck
this is me
James Davis
yeah that's why humans can get faster and deeper into ketosis than any other animal. Because it's unhealthy. Also why babies are born in deep ketosis, because it's unhealthy and bad for growth. The mother will literally start producing ketones to feed the baby in the womb even if she is eating high carb.
And no, we didn't mainly consume plant matter. And even if we did it wasnt mainly grains and starches. It's pretty telling how fast aboriginals go from perfect teeth+jaw development to England tier fucked up when introduced to the western diet. Literally all it takes is one generation.
Michael Jenkins
>yeah that's why humans can get faster and deeper into ketosis than any other animal
umm no
>Also why babies are born in deep ketosis
umm no, wtf?
>The mother will literally start producing ketones to feed the baby in the womb even if she is eating high carb
keep on telling the most retarded pseudo science ive ever had to read.
Levi Wood
Wolves and other carnivores have small intestines which allows them to easily digest enzymes from meat. Humans are the opposite and have a 20 ft small intestine that makes it longer to digest and break down as said enzymes from meat.
I'm not saying meat is bad for you(I actually believe red meat is highly beneficial unless you have health issues from it) but to eat nothing but red meat because you think you're some sort of alpha pack wolf is 100% ignorant
Liam Collins
Acetoacetyl-CoA synthetase, a unique enzyme that allows an important portion of carbon atoms from ketone bodies to be incorporated into lipid via a highly efficient cytosolic pathway (Williamson and Buckley, 1973). Indeed, there is a strong correlation between lipid synthesis and the activity of this enzyme during brain development (Yeh and Sheehan, 1985). Moreover, ketone body transport across the blood–brain barrier using the monocarboxylate carrier is maximal during the suckling period, in keeping with the idea that ketone bodies play an important role in brain development (Cremer, 1982; Conn et al., 1983). "Ketone bodies are utilized by the newborn brain as a source of energy and carbon skeletons and are incorporated into fatty acids, sterols, acetylcholine, and amino acids (Robinson and Williamson, 1980; Bougneres et al., 1986). Ketone bodies, however, seem to be the major source of carbon skeletons for sterol synthesis during brain development and play a decisive role in the synthesis of brain structures during myelinogenesis (Robinson and Williamson, 1980; Miziorko et al., 1990). Ketone bodies are utilized evenly by neurons, astrocytes, and oligodendrocytes (Edmond et al., 1987; Lopes-Cardozo et al., 1989; Poduslo and Miller, 1991), indicating that they are ubiquitous substrates for brain cells. Acetoacetyl-CoA synthetase activity, however, is higher in oligodendrocytes than in neurons or astrocytes, confirming the special role of oligodendrocytes in myelinogenesis (Pleasure et al., 1979; Lopes-Cardozo et al., 1989; Poduslo and Miller, 1991)."
Ethan Walker
"The increase in the activities of ketogenic enzymes together with the increase in the availability of fatty acids occurring immediately after delivery result in enhancement of ketogenic capacity of the liver (Girard,1990). This is responsible for the increase in ketone body concentrations observed postnatally. In fact, plasma ketone body concentrations are the main factor controlling the rate of ketone body utilization by neonatal tissues (Robinson and Williamson, 1980). In addition, activities of enzymes involved in ketone body utilization either increase during the first days of extrauterine life, as in the rat (Page et al., 1971), or are already induced during early gestation, as in the human brain (Patel et al., 1975).
Ryan Gutierrez
Story?
Jose Adams
just like I said, pseudo science.
do you even read the stuff you post?
take some time to study biology pls.
Benjamin Howard
No but I started eating way more meat and milk, in honor of Sv3rige and Shawn Baker. Toplads.
Carson Clark
I blew out my asshole with shit backed up and hardened asf on meat only diet. Doctors had to break it up and suction the shit out
Nicholas Stewart
>hur dur it's pseudoscience.
post refrences to studies.
>hur dur it's pseudoscience, educate yourself.
You sound like a sjw
Camden Turner
TOTAL HORSESHIT.
He is a medical school graduate and insanely powerful lifter. Skinny ass girlymen vegans think they can diagnose his blood test better than he can??
Fucking lol I'm surprised you have the energy to open your laptop.
Dylan Perez
Listen to Doctor Rhonda Patrick on her last episode of Joe Rogan Podcast. She talks about all the medical downsides of the carnivore diet.
Humans are fucking omnivores why do people try to make it so complicated.
Fish, Chicken, Eggs, Plants End of Story
Breads and Beefs a couple times a week as a treat. Sugar Rarely
Lucas Parker
The plural of anecdote is anecdotes, not data
Michael Rodriguez
>why do people try to make it so complicated.
Literally autism. People can't seem to understand balance and moderation so they pretend they're wolves or some shit and pretend that's normal.
Jackson Sanders
and do you know how you get data? enough anecdotes build up about something that people test it. Sometimes anecdotes are true.
Brayden Gomez
>Listen to some manfaced hag on that God awful Joe Rogan's podcast
I physically can't
Elijah Morris
Anecdotes have no control, no methodology, no validation and no repetition. They are not valid data.
Jackson Roberts
The only problem I see with it is kidney stones. There is a kind made when people eat too high of a protein diet. I have little to no problem with it as a detox thing.
But the best thing I think to do is go on an elimination diet first like jp daughter did, no point in being a guinea pig without good evidence that there is a likelyhood it’s in your interest.
Angel Lee
people that lift and do keto also do high protein, they arent stuck to the traditional 70%fat and 25% protein
Mason Nguyen
Not true. The only data we truly have is anecdotal. The stick with the lines on it isn’t telling the truth it’s all the men looking at the ruler saying your dick is in fact one inch long and subsequently agreeing that makes it evidence based science.
The ruler didn’t say shit but the men looking at the ruler have no cause to believe any other ruler on earth would say anything different.
Michael Price
>manfaced hag
I'm not really picky when it comes to women: but dear lord she's unattractive.
Jaxon Gomez
>no plants
>healthy
Oh look, it's retarded.
Nicholas Young
Cant image the mindstate and selfhate some of these people will be in when they are going to die at 40 to prostate cancer and heart disease,
and just because they were gullable enough to trust some mentally retarded guys in internet with camera that seemed little more confident than they were and had some small social proof in their comment section mini world to fool subconscious minds decission making process.
All people are tired and scared and want just someone else to tell them what to do and to show a "magic pill" that will save time and energy and make us little bit happier.
I might sound like asshole but i really hope that you all make it, but its time to cut bullshit and use your critical thinking.
John Jackson
I 100% agree with the elimination diet thing. There is no better diet than that, since it will be custom fitted for you and your specific sensitivities.
Justin Robinson
meat consumption has a correlated hazard rate of cancer of 1.1x-1.3x depending on the study
Ldl has a hazard rate of 0.001x
Insulin resistance has a hazard rate of 40x
Must be all that meat giving us heart attacks and cancer
Henry Ramirez
Reminder that this is king of the shills for the carnivore diet
Landon Foster
Yes correct (except for the hilarious misdiagnosing his bloodwork)
Jacob Howard
And here is the queen of the herbivores. What a man!
Grayson Smith
Why are you so pissed off? It looks fun, autist. Meat tastes good. We don't hate ourselves. Stop talking like you're Henry Rollins.
Nicholas Bell
Brandon James
It's legit, I switch back and forth between pure carnivore and mixing in dairy and while I still haven't got my shit together in life, I'm in better shape than I've ever been and I didn't get sick a single time last year.
Jacob Jones
His greasy chest hair is making me very uncomfortable
Hunter Stewart
>anecdotes
kill yourself OP
Cameron Clark
real wolf here
I'd rip you apart
Nathaniel Anderson
Noah Jones
Isn't the carnivore diet like the gay version of keto?