Will this kill me?

>170lbs (was 330 a year ago)
>18 year old male
>5’10

Since I’ve found weight loss is piss easy (feels like a game at this point) and I have no muscle and a ton of loose skin anyway (I’ll never have good aesthetics) I’m fasting down to 135 pounds (will likely stretch into a no food February), and after that I’m going to try eating 1000 cals a day just in candy to see if I can drop the last 5 pounds before starting a bulk.

Thoughts? I know it’s not optimal, I’m just wondering if the candy part of the experiment will have any lasting harmful effects

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stop eating only candy you retard
you have no reason to go down to 135lbs either

What method did you use to lose the weight? Im stalling right now so any advice would be very helpful.

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> try eating 1000 cals a day just in candy
Why in the fuck would you do that?

You lost 160# in a year without and skin flab?

Well I’m not eating candy yet, and why shouldn’t I go down to 135 pounds? I’m going to try and bulk back up anyhow

Keto + fasting

I was thinking of doing a weekly vlog series to show that at a low body fat Percentage you you can still eat candy and lose weight. Part of this is because I have fat family members (go figure I was 330 pounds at 17) and it may also show them how easy it is to play by the rules of fat loss.

What do you mean? I have loose skin and stretch marks

That's pretty kind of you, but you will probably feel like shit the entire time other than whenever you eat the candy.

Why are you starving youself? men can grow from ages 18-21, if I were you Id eat maintenance with lots of healthy foods and protein, plenty of water and lots of sleep. Workout to build muscle and improve testosterone.

170lbs is still overweight, and I’ve grown a quarter of an inch in the last few months (Fasting raises HGH) and fasting is more muscle muscle sparing than CICO at a deficit.

Also, I have no gym and incredibly limited exercise equipment to the point that I plan on doing only calisthenics when I bulk.

In terms of testosterone, I’m getting a blood test done soon to see my testosterone levels (I assume they’re very low as I have almost no sex drive) and if need be I’ll see if I can be prescribed testosterone for my bulk

stimulants like caffeine,L-theanine and nicotine are best for killing appetite and faster metabolism

I take one of those almost every day and I have to drink oil with peanut butter so I don't go skelly mode

congratulations on your achievement. i bet you can gain muscle really easily. tell me, because i'm genuinely curious, what is life like when you're 330 fucking pounds?

Your test levels are low because you are in a calorie deficit you mong. You clearly have an unhealthy relationship with your body, start eating healthier, near maintenance and start to go more slowly with the weight loss whilst putting on muscle

You do realize you SHOULD be at a caloric deficit if you’re overweight, right? According to the CDC I won’t be underweight at 130 pounds

You’re tired all the time and can’t jump or climb anything. One thing I do now because I’m still not used to it is just finding two counters that are close to each other and just lifting my body with one hand on each one. Feels great compared to barely being able to stand up

Yes, but you can be in a 500kcal deficit and slowly lose weight whilst gaining muscle. You don’t need to go all the way to being almost underweight, that probably also won’t be good in terms of all the loose skin you will have.
From what it sounds like your muscles are already very atrophied, it’s absolutely crucial to start building them now, even just for health purposes. It will also allow you to be a fair bit heavier and more massive whilst being at a low bodyfat, which will fill your loose skin in much better. Don’t just continue to fast because it’s easy, its time to get going with the next step

Sorry meant to reply to

tell us what it's like to be fat, now that you're on the other side

what is walking and shitting like?

The loose skin is always going to be there. Can you show me evidence that demonstrates how I can gain muscle at a caloric defect? I doubt it’s as effective as straight cutting and bulking. I’d rather cut efficiently and bulk efficiently than half ass both at the same time.

I don’t have much muscle mass (can hardly do 10 push ups) but I can always gain muscle after my cut, and the sooner I can get that over with the better.

Mentioned energy here Otherwise now I can physically identify with regular humans. It’s jarring to be fat then realize humans are supposed to be relatively flat when you look at them from the side. Also girls call me “pretty” now on occasion.

Walking is hard. At one point while I was probably 250 pounds I’d walk to and from my college (2.5 miles on each trip) and it was exhausting. Now I can walk indefinitely it feels like.

Shitting is weird because I only shit once every two weeks or so now, and when I was fat as fuck I’d shit once every day or two.

You’re a complete beginner, so yes you can gain muscle whilst cutting as your body will pack on muscle very easily. If you cut down to being borderline underweight at this speed without lifting you will be seriously unhealthy as your body will have an unnaturally low amount of muscle mass. Part of getting stronger is strengthening your tendons and ligaments as well, which lifting does for you.
As I said, nothing wrong with continuing to cut, but start doing it a bit more healthily, and more importantly start lifting weights now

But if I’m only cutting for maybe 2 more months on a very muscle sparing routine (fasting) then what can I really lose if I jump from that to bulking and daily strength exercise? I’m just saying this seems much more efficient

You wanna get used to strength exercises as soon as possible, you have absolutely nothing to lose from starting now, only muscle to gain. And no calorie deficit is ever really muscle sparing if you don’t workout.
If you really want to you can maybe do another months or so of quick weight loss, but consider that this has some momentum to it. You won’t go from losing almost 200lbs to bulking that quickly, your stomach isn’t gonna be able to handle it well and neither will you. Much better to start reducing the deficit before hitting your goal weight and then slowly go into a surplus.
Just don’t overdo it man and start lifting now, there really isn’t any reason to wait

I mean, it'll work but it's absolutely retarded. Just be aware of type 2 diabetes when doing this

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Dude, you’re fucking retarded. Eat at a 500 cal deficit and lift for 6 weeks then bulk. You’re just cucking yourself by fasting. You will look like shit unless you start to lift ASAP.

Noob gains only go so far. Like I said, why not just burn up a month and a half on hitting the lowest weight I’ll likely ever reach while not losing muscle, then maybe a month of eating at maintenance while lifting heavy before moving onto eating at a surplus and gaining muscle at a decent rate? For reference, I lost my first 20 pounds in like 4 months (before I got MyFitnessPal and put in the current weight at 330) and then lost weight at around 3 times that speed after switching to keto (which isn’t causing weight loss for me now, even at 1500 cals a day). Plus I’m still getting exercise. I do 50 push ups and pull ups a day and a few times a week I run a couple miles. I know it’s not much, but I think it’s all I need to maintain muscle while fasting

How do you get diabetes from eating 1000 cals a day?

What kind of "fasting" do you do?
intermittent or 24/48?

I’m always going to “look” like shit because of this loose skin. The point is I’m still overweight, and I want to cut as efficiently as possible until I’m at a weight where I can bulk for a while without leaving my healthy weight range

Some 48s with the occasional 72, but mostly just 24 between meals. Planning on not counting hours or looking at the scale and just fasting until January ends.

So fasting didn't do much for the loose skin after all

Yeah it’s not as tight as it could be, but it’s nowhere near as loose as it could be either.

>lmao slowly lose maybe 6 pounds when all your weight above the 140 mark probably comes from pure fat, then start your muscle building phase that also builds fat bro

Most of it is probably weight from loose skin

>How do you get diabetes from eating 1000 cals a day?
1000kcal a day in sugar. It'll give you insulin resistance real quick and that'll lead to diabetes.

Probably not because you can lose 5 pounds in a month which is not long enough to kill you. Still you should do that now because the lower you go the slower it gets, I am around your goal now with 1200cal 120protein/day and my main food is cottage cheese with sugar which is also a dessert so why not do something like that. That "challenge" doesn't make much sense since you could just fast for a month, long term health effects from starvation kick in after a month so candy should be the same. Just drink water excessively.

You can lose 5lbs a month

Fasting or eating 1000 cals in candy? Either way where’s your math coming from?

Why would you want to be below 170lbs? Just stay there and lift your way back up to 200.

170 is still heavy for my height

That and plus 200 (even with muscle) is blaha tier shit

>keto+fasting

Good man. I do carnivore + fasting. Found out that veggies were the reason for my pain in my gut and why I had diarrhea. Lost around 90ibs in 4 months

I’ve wanted to try carnivore with a multivitamin

Start bulking TODAY or you're just another anorexic fast fag.

Just bulk up enough to take up the slack.

I’ll be honest, when I said 173 pounds I meant before I had a cheat day and put on a ton of weight. This morning I weighed in at 183 pounds, the same weight I’ve had since cheating over a week ago despite eating 1500 cals a day on keto. I look much fatter than in the op pic now.

Knowing that, so you still think it’s a good idea to bulk? The healthiest option would likely be fasting to 150, then bulking back up to 165-170, and maintaining for the rest of the year to reset what my body considers “normal”

>I had a cheat day
Nigga that weight gain would mean a 30,000 calorie surplus. You ate maintenance, AND consumed enough energy to drive my car for 126 miles, in one fucking day?

Bruh you will turn into a hungry skeleton super fast, just eat at maitenence while lifting, you are about the right weight for your height considering all the loose skin. You gotta put some muscle on those bones now

I’m assuming at least half is water weight, but I ate junk until I was 100% full, then would wait a few hours or use the bathroom then eat to capacity again. Shit was bad.

I’ll try dropping to (dropping to 155 to account for the carb up) then lifting while eating at maintenance for the rest of the year

Water weight dumbass I can gain 10 pounds in a day when i eat like crap and loose it after 2-3 days of normal eating

Your post implies that you can eat at a caloric surplus and none of the weight you gain will be from fat, which is unbelievably fucking retarded.

Well quit binge eating stupid shit, then. Cut down to 12% bodyfat, bulk till you reach 16%, cut down again, repeat until swole.

How do you balance the fasting with the Keto? Do you fast one day then eat the next?

How do I check body fat percentage without my loose skin fucking it up? Would a dexa scan work? Aren’t those free?

170 @ 5'10 isn't overweight at all. What metric are you using to say this?

I just bought a scale that reads bf%, they're expensive but your body is a long term investment.

How do you measure a persons body fat just by weighing them? That makes no sense.

It’s towards the top of the “healthy” weight for my height. Plus like I said without water weight I’m likely closer to 180

>Using BMI
Are you this retarded? From your posts it's clear you know nothing about fitness.

If you lift your arms up in the air and can slightly see some ribs, does that mean you’re too skinny?

I’m going off what my doctor has told me (which is that without much muscle mass, being 170-180 pounds means I have excess body fat that isn’t healthy)

Doctors don't know shit. They've been taught old school information for normies who don't lift.

Start lifting on a calorie deficit. Everyone is telling you this but you refuse to listen because some faggot Dr told you something else? Kek

>everyone is telling you this

1. There have been plenty of people in this thread who have said to straight up bulk

2. Just because people are saying it doesn’t make it correct. I think it’s better to have maximum efficiency losing weight (once again, without losing muscle because fasting is muscle sparing) before efficiently gaining muscle as opposed to half assing both and getting nowhere.

What makes you think lifting will make it less efficient to get leaner? Do you think you take in extra calories by lifting? God you're so fucking retarded. Why did your make this thread if you're not gonna take any advice, fuck off

I am exercising. I thought you meant eating at a smaller deficit with more carbohydrates

My lifts totally stalled on keto, so I think I’ve hit a wall as to how much I can lift while still losing fat efficiently

No you want increase your protein to build muscle

This thread is fucking stupid holy shit

So I can stay on keto, just with increased protein and still gain muscle? I thought keto was absolute dogshit for performance

as long as you are lifting, yes

>How do you measure a persons body fat just by weighing them? That makes no sense.
Wow you put absolutely no effort into looking into this yourself, did you? You didn't even think "Hmm, that sounds odd, let me Google it myself like a fucking adult" before deciding I was lying. It doesn't measure bodyfat JUST by weighing you, genius, it's a scale that can do multiple things that scales do. You know how you have a phone that can do something other than make phone calls now? Same logic.

I still have quite a bit to cut.

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His metabolism is probably fucked

These are hilariously inaccurate, and your excess skin adds inches on top. You're probably a decent amount under that. Like I said, get the scale or at least have the shit measured professionally.

It helped incredibly, he was 330. He would look like a mop if he hadn't used fasting, and would prob look better with some dry fasting and extended fasts.

Similar situation as OP, need help

>5'6 fatass manlet
>start fasting at 306lb 8 months ago
>at 171lb now
>dexa scan showed 20.4% bodyfat, scale at home says 20%
>133lb lean, 36lb fat
>16lb less fat would get me to 12% bf

Should I fast down to 12% then bulk or 15% and eat maintenance?