Is he the natty saviour?

Is he the natty saviour?

Also, achievable natty?

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>that arm
>natty
I like the bugez but let's not pretend for any minute that he isn't on any sort of PED, especially now that he's in WWE

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Looks natty. His arm looks big cause he's pressing it against his body, making his triceps look even better.

There's a pic of JK Simmons using an arm blaster during his workout, his arms look huge! Then there's another pic without the blaster and his arms look skelly.

yep
im a dyel but i have wide back and decent lats
flex lat and press arm against it and boom, big triceps

>Train for 20 years
>Get a pump
>Take a pic with pump pressing arm against body
>People think this isn't natty

>natty saviour
He'd need to be natty first. Can't be anymore.

>achievable natty?
Between "I took something that was like roids when I was yonger" and "I'm gonna go on a soi protein diet, it increases IGF, btw I might get bitch tits", I'll go with a no.

he's been training longer than you've been alive, definitely achievable natty over that time frame

What are you talking about? Are you saying you can't look like that without PEDs? Mate...

>i have wide back and decent lats
You wish buddy.

If this isn't achievable natty, I will quit lifting

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Obviously natty. For whatever reason this board went from nuthugging Eric to outing him as some some fake natty snake. Buncha dyel larpers in this board I swear.

>progress is linear
>you can get to roid level if you train long enough
Cool shit faggot, he's like 6'2 and over 100kg, cut and juicy all year round while doing memelifts almost exclusively. Jumps on a bodybuilding program and his arms suddenly grow like on butter.

Progress is linear you dyel twink.

No

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post body big guy

Just look at those shoulders user. They're absolutely tiny compared to frauders. I'm pretty sure the Bugez has been training far longer than Calum.

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This. Bugenhagen's a fake natty.

Also a little reminder that the true natty king AlphaDestiny™ forced Bugenhagen to make an apologize video for slandering him and his strength.

Revenge is best served like a glass of lemonade, cold.

Post body and stats big guy.

He isn't very cut, though. He's holding a lot of water weight. 220lbs isn't that much for someone 6'2, either. I'm 180 at 6' and I look like I'm athletic, but not necessarily like I go to the gym

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Post glutes big guy

I promise you its not. Really really not though, like not even close

The thread is about Eric Bugenhagen who is a goal body, as well as has linear progression. Are you both a dyel and a idiot?

>dude I drink like a dozen cups of coffee a day
>dude I took something with IGF when I was wrestling in school, it still has effects
>dude I'm in the WWE, I need to look bigger
Bruh.

>Likes AlphaDestiny
>reddit spacing
of course

>hurrr if you roid you have to be at least 250lbs 8% BF
Idiot

>Eric
Fake natty.

>progression is linear
Okay m8, I guess you can gain 10kg of muscle every year, then.

You don't need to be cut.
Apti Aukhadov got busted for roids, yet he looks like a roiding manlet on SS+GOMAD.

If you aren't gaining muscle every consistently you are lifting wrong, why else would you be lifting?

I guess Arnold wasn't roiding either, because his delts were tiny compared to the rest of his body, lmao.

No, and no.

Keep seething you fucking dyel twinks. Imagine thinking he is not natty lmaoooo how pathetic is your lifting life

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He said a long time ago that he did use steroids while in college.

Video is gone now that he's in the big E.

Caring this much about your e-celeb crush. Yikes!

>calls out obvious dyel twinks
>caring
lmao

Nigger what the fuck are you smoking, some retard blunt?
>gaining muscle
>consistently
There's no fucking way you're gaining a given amount of muscle every year for 20 years, unless you're some fucking noob still in awe of the fake natties.

The person I was replying to specifically said he was cut all year round

You literally make no sense. Are you saying passed a "beginner" stage you gain literally zero muscle? LMao. I come back to Jow Forums and its filled with retarded autistic dyels

5’11 185lbs
1.5 years natty lifting

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post body little guy

>larping this hard

>"h-he can't be natty... h-he's too big to be natty right guys?... im 65kg i am a b-big boy. I am the peak"

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>manlet
>small arms
>most weight in legs
Next please.

You're not fooling anyone haha

You don't look 185lbs at all

No, you fucking retard. The whole point is that you gain less and less every year, and that lifting long enough won't give you as much muscle as a someone on juice.

Post your body
Heres me, with 3/4/5 lifts saying he's not natty
Tell me again why anyone should listen to you
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>working his shaft this hard
post body

>caring enough to respond to me twice
Thanks for the (you)'s dopamine rush!

Compared to the rest of his body? Really? I honestly think they're pretty well-proportioned. Even his early 20s Arnie's delts were bigger than Bugez'.

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dyel

No way you can do 3/4/5 LMAO.
You look barely 160lbs buddy

Pretty hot desu. Got any more? No homo.

>gain more muscle at first
>gain less muscle as time passes
>every year gain less muscle than the year before
>at some point gaining muscle is impossible/almost impossible
It's really simple user. Lifting for X years doesn't give you a free pass for having X muscle mass.

Im 5'11 180, why are you so upset my friend
Post your body

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the dysphoria is real

You never stop gaining muscle if you lift correctly because the when the formula to stop gaining muscle happens long after you are dead. You can gain muscle for your entire 90 years or so of life. Anyone saying otherwise is a dyel. What's the absolute point of lifting if you cap out on muscles.

Arnold's delts were his weak point, and everyone knows that bro.

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>you never stop gaining muscle
Lmao, brainlet.
Post body.

Lmao dyel?
Would love to see that 2 inch rom 3pl8 bench with ur chicken chest and noodle arms

This is how I know you're small and weak, 3/4/5 isnt even strong
But eric is full natty yeah sure buddy boy

>What's the absolute point of lifting
Being healthy and looking good.

Oh your arms are bigger than 17 inches cold? Nice lets see big boi

>5'11
>185lbs
>flexing this hard and still looking small
More like 5'9/165lbs, little guy.

3pl8 bench, 4 pl8 squats, and 5pl8 deadlift all for 5x5 is strong honestly

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absolute cope from being called out for his e-statting lies LMAO
I can bet money you cannot do 3/4/5 for 5x5

when did i say anything about his progress being linear you fucking dork? I said he's been training a long time, not that it's been linear - train for a decade + and report back

>5x5

Yes thats why im the only one to post body
Keep believing eric is full natty little guy. Funny to see how out of your world 3/4/5 is that you couldnt comprehend someone lifting that at 180
You must be pathetic

> what is maximum genetic potential?

You posted a body that no one believes can do 3/4/5 for 5x5. You de-railed a thread for your own bodyshowing fetish. You can't do 3/4/5 for 5x5, hands down I can bet on that.

1/2/3/4 standards is for 5x5. Not 1RM.

Why would you know what body could lift those weights
Youre clearly nowhere near those lifts, i LIFT them now, you're a deluded fuck who thinks if you get those lifts youre gonna look like a juice monkey, no wonder you think eric is natty
Post body pussy.

No matter what you say, you and I both know you cannot do 3/4/5 for 5x5. Stop e-statting lol

>1/2/3/4 standards is for 5x5
You mean 5RM. Nobody is doing 5x5 deadlifts if they're serious.

Bro i doubt this baby chest can even bench a one rep 3pl8 if he doesnt go full retarded 2 inch rom mode
I had that chest when i was 14 doing 30 pushups a day

Poor small weak boy
Enjoy your disappointing lifting career if you think you're gonna look anything like bugen lmao

Oh you look like that guy? Post body

Reminder to ignore everyone who doesnt post body because they look like this

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Cmon stop the obvious estats you pathetic dyel

Anyone who thinks Bugez is natty is a dyel. I've been lifting for 12 years now, 8 of them as a natty. I promise you that he is not natural.

I challenge any natty ITT to post their bodies. If anyone looks remotely as good as him I will eat my own shit on camera.

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NOBODY, i repeat, NOBODY on Jow Forums comes close to his body

yet everyone is claiming it's possible natty

I guess it's possible. It's also possible a fucking asteroid will hit you while you're walking down the block.

99.9999% of Jow Forumsizens do not take fitness seriously, and their diet, strength, and body show for it in many threads and pictures.
If you are dedicated to lifting (Division 1 athlete) then I see no reason why you cannot look like him after 20 years of lifting.

>im a gde so everyone is one!!

Bullshit. I'm 5'11 and a little less lean and significanly larger at 185. 185 at that height and low bf is big.

He is literally in the 1% when it comes to the genetics lottery, you just didn't luck out user. That's it. You post yours since you worked out for 12 years, wanna see what supposedly awaits me

you just KNOW

>I failed at natty lifting so I roided up to mask my lack of natural lifting, diet, and education.
>I roid now so listen to me boys

Yo my guys
What's more likely
He's a genetic anomaly freak
Or he just pins

He probably just pins my guys
Why u wanna believe hes natty so hard? Wasnt he a competitive collegiate wrestler as well? Lmao if u think those guys are natty

Every single fitness youtuber has the exact same people posting the exact same arguments
"HE'S BEEN LIFTING FOR 20 YEARS! DIVISION 1 ATHLETE!"

It doesn't matter if you've been lifting for 20 or 70 years, his FFMI is NOT natural, and if he's been wrestling since HS, i can GUARANTEE he took steroids, and probably still is taking them.

this
it gives kids hope that they'll be a huge 250lbs bison like bugenhagen

>no pic

Now, I'm no Brock Lesnar but as a natty on a bb routine I could deadlift over 500lbs, squat over 450 and bench 375 for a couple of reps. So my genetics are not bad. I know what I'm talking about.

Nice pic. Really showed me. Also, take a look at If a near 1400 total is a bad for a natty I'd like to see your stats.

Eric Bugenhagen is the only one that legitimately has proof of competing at a Division 1 level, and wrestling at that. There is video evidence of him when he was in college competing in wrestling, he looks bigger than he does now.
What's his FFMI?

so by I state it's more likely he's agenetic anomaly freak, since he made it through to Division 1 wrestling and gained strength quickly throughout his life.

If he isn't achievable natty with the peak genetics, there is literal ZERO point in lifting.

>eric was a div1 athlete therefore natty
LMAO
Thats funny if u think theres a single d1 wrestler who isnt on steroids
Do u have any idea how intense that training is? You'd die without chemical assistance

>Top 1%
>Totally mediocre powerlifting record
>Does meme lifts with tricky camera angles with 8 inches of mats stuffed under the weights making them block pulls

You didnt post one either lmao and im not even making any retarded claims like you did

Also those numbers are very bad for 8 years lifting. Like i said, gde

It's funny if you think every division 1 athlete juices.

fuck off onions chugger

Every HS and college athlete is on gear, you tard. They have good genetics AND they roid. This is what the best bodybuilders in the world looked like before steroids were invented. Look at how much smaller he is than Eric despite being half a foot shorter.

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Cope harder faggots I’m not lying about anything lmfao

>You didnt post one either
What would be the point? I don't claim natty.

>im not even making any retarded claims like you did
Claiming Bugez is natty is basically the equivalent of claiming a porn star is chaste.

>Also those numbers are very bad for 8 years lifting
Let me see your stats then.