/fast/ - #359 - STEALING CONTENT FROM /FAT/ EDITION

KETO FLU?

BAKING SODA IS ACTUALLY OPTIONAL (COLE JUST RECOMMENDS IT). KEEP THE RATIO 1:1 ON THE SALTS AND YOU'LL BE GOLD.

>2 YEARS
HOLY FUCK. GODDAMN CRYBABIES.

COLE, FROM SNAKE DIET, CREATED AND COINED THE TERM.

AT THAT FITNESS LEVEL, YOU CAN DO WHAT SAID AND YOU'LL MAYBE REGAIN THE STRENGTH IN 5 DAYS.
IF YOU'RE SUPER SUPER AFRAID OF LOSING A WEEK'S WORTH OF GYM TIME, DO OMAD AND STICK WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF FOOD YOU CURRENTLY EAT FOR A DAY. YOU WILL PROBABLY BE ABLE TO CUT & BULK WITH THAT ROUTINE FOR A WHILE, ACTUALLY. YOU CAN ALSO FAST ON REST DAYS.

GOOD FUCKING WORK, PUSH TO REACH THOSE 72S LIKE YOUR FUCKING LIFE DEPENDS ON IT. IT'S COMMON FOR PEOPLE TO REACH 96 HOURS AND SUDDENLY FEEL NORMAL, LIKE YOU CAN FAST FOREVER. PROLONGED FASTING AND SELF-DEVELOPMENT GO HAND IN HAND, AND THE CONFIDENCE IT BRINGS YOU IS PRICELESS.

GOOD WORK, SATAN.

IF YOU'RE DOING A 96H DRY FAST IN TO A SNAKE JUICE FAST, BREAK THE DRY FAST WITH BAKING SODA FIRST. SIP 1L + 1 TSP OF WATER TO EXPAND YOUR KIDNEYS, THEN JUST DRINK SNAKE JUICE. YOU CAN ALSO JUST DRINK SNAKE JUICE BUT IT HAS TO HAVE BAKING SODA IN IT.
THE ONLY TIP I HAVE IS TRY TO REACH THAT 96, AND IF YOU STILL FEEL GOOD, GO AN EXTRA DAY OR HALF AND KEEP THAT JUICE NEXT TO YOUR BED.

ARE YOU A FATTY?

>ARE YOU A FATTY?
5'10
216ishlbs
So I'd say yeah

DRY FAST FOR 2-3 DAYS AND HAVE ONLY SNAKE JUICE ON HAND. YOU'LL ENJOY THE TASTE AFTERWARDS.

THAT OR JUST FUCKING DRINK IT. YOU HAVE A SPOILED PALATE, STOP BEING A BITCH.

> (You)
>AT THAT FITNESS LEVEL, YOU CAN DO WHAT SAID AND YOU'LL MAYBE REGAIN THE STRENGTH IN 5 DAYS.
>IF YOU'RE SUPER SUPER AFRAID OF LOSING A WEEK'S WORTH OF GYM TIME, DO OMAD AND STICK WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF FOOD YOU CURRENTLY EAT FOR A DAY. YOU WILL PROBABLY BE ABLE TO CUT & BULK WITH THAT ROUTINE FOR A WHILE, ACTUALLY. YOU CAN ALSO FAST ON REST DAYS.
dude how am I supposed to fill a days worth of food into a single meal? are you talking about what I'd eat if I was cutting or what I'm eating now to bulk up?

21
6'1
FAT AS FUCK (335 LBS)

>FITNESS LEVEL
BEGINNER

OR EAT 3 MEALS A DAY LIKE A FUCKIN NORMAL HUMAN BEING WHILE SUPPLEMENTING WITH MULTIVITAMINS SO YOU DONT DIE YOU FUCKING MONGREL. GOD I AM SO TIRED OF SEEING YOU IN THIS THREAD KILLING PEOPLE. LIKE THAT user WHO LOSE 20IBS IN A MONTH. HEALTHY SHOULD BE 4IBS MAXIMUM!!!!

Oh great now there is two of them.

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Glad you're feeling better. Got your snake juice all set up? Hopefully this time, with using the snake juice, you'll avoid a bad electrolyte balance. If a bunch of weird shit still happens with the snake juice, you need to investigate further.

>dude how am I supposed to fill a days worth of food into a single meal?
YOU CAN START WITH 20:4 AND SHORTEN THE EATING WINDOW AS YOU TRAIN YOUR STOMACH TO BE ABLE TO CONSUME A TON OF FOOD.
>are you talking about what I'd eat if I was cutting or what I'm eating now to bulk up?
IF YOU ATE WHAT YOU NORMALLY WOULD AT MAINTENANCE, IT'S GUARANTEED THAT YOU'LL LOSE WEIGHT DOING OMAD WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF FOOD AT MAINTENANCE.

FAST AS LONG YOU CAN FUCKING CAN ON SNAKE JUICE YOU FAT FUCK.

WOULD YOU GO TO A /FAST/ THREAD AND PREACH 3 MEALS A DAY?

>>dude how am I supposed to fill a days worth of food into a single meal?
>YOU CAN START WITH 20:4 AND SHORTEN THE EATING WINDOW AS YOU TRAIN YOUR STOMACH TO BE ABLE TO CONSUME A TON OF FOOD.
>>are you talking about what I'd eat if I was cutting or what I'm eating now to bulk up?
>IF YOU ATE WHAT YOU NORMALLY WOULD AT MAINTENANCE, IT'S GUARANTEED THAT YOU'LL LOSE WEIGHT DOING OMAD WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF FOOD AT MAINTENANCE.
you have an estimate on how much weight one could lose doing that every week?

Seriously fucking hate it when the allcapsposters show up and ruin a thread

IT'S HARD TO SAY, BUT WITH YOUR INFORMATION YOU COULD PROBABLY LOSE LIKE 1-2 POUNDS OF BODY FAT PER WEEK AND GET STRONGER AT THE SAME TIME.

OH YEA, ANOTHER OPTION YOU CAN DO IS STRAIGHT UP INCREASE YOUR MACRO INTAKE AND FOCUS ON BULKING. YOU'LL STILL BE BURNING BODY FAT IF YOUR EATING WINDOW IS WITHIN AN HOUR AND YOU HIT THE GYM HARD.
FOR YOUR CURIOSITY:
youtube.com/watch?v=iz8RtmBl8vc

that video was the worst fucking video I've ever watched

20/5'9/203 lb
internmidiate
so caps user i have been following your advice, i recently finished a 3 days fast after i had to eat due to lack of potassium, today im begging again, today i bench press 30 kilos and felt good, trained for 1 hour but my fear is if its going to happening to me again, the lack of potassium i started out strong before but became weak, maybe because i didnt do the snake juice and i was only with water and salt, but where i live i cant get that pink salt, also do you think i should do EME3D or OMAW

I want to get my sister to fast but I don't know anything about female hormones, plus she has PCOS and her doctors said that fasting is bad for her and she will gain weight if she fasts, which I do not believe for a second.

What can I do?

Not in the fasting cult per se but fasting and keto are great for PCOS because they raise SHBG and lower insulin/igf-1. Her doctors sound retarded

FIRST OF ALL, GOOD WORK ON FINISHING A 3 DAY FAST.
SECOND, I'M A BIT CONFUSED, DO YOU THINK THE HIMALAYAN SALT IS THE POTASSIUM SOURCE? IT'S NOT, HIMALAYAN SALT IS YOUR SOURCE OF SODIUM.
AS FOR POTASSIUM: YOU CAN'T SOURCE POTASSIUM FROM ANYWHERE? HOW DEEP ARE YOUR POCKETS? ARE YOU WILLING TO BUY KIWIS FOR YOUR POTASSIUM INTAKE? CAN YOU GET THE SUPPLIES FROM AMAZON? GOOGLE SOURCES OF POTASSIUM AND TRY TO REPLENISH THEM THROUGH ANY MEANS THAT FIT WITHIN YOUR MACROS.

YOUR WEAKNESS COULD ALSO BE YOU DEPLETING MUSCLE GLYCOGEN. ARE YOU EATING ENOUGH STARCHY CARBS TO REPLENISH MUSCLE GLYCOGEN?

IF YOU'VE FASTED YOURSELF YOU HAVE A SMALL EDGE IN CREDIBILITY, BUT SHE SOUNDS LIKE A STUBBORN PERSON. BE UPFRONT AND CLEAR THAT YOU'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HER HEALTH AND EDUCATE HER ON FASTING. SHOW HER SOME VIDEOS FROM DR. FUNG OR WHATEVER SOURCE YOU WANT, AND PERHAPS EVEN JOIN HER IN A FAST.

i ate red meat on my refeeed and i meant for the snake juice recipe, i just dont want to feel cold and have the shakes, they usually begin on early day 3

Potassium is not pink salt.
Potassium is not optional.
Potassium is "no salt" brand salt substitute at the grocery store.
What country are you in?

yeah i know i was talking that i couldnt get my snake juice right, in a 3 world shithole

ARE YOU SHAKING BECAUSE YOU'RE COLD, OR ARE YOU SHAKING *AND* YOU ARE COLD?

BEING COLD IS A COMMON SYMPTOM, IT'S YOUR BODY POOLING ITS RESOURCES TO MOBILIZING NUTRIENTS FROM YOUR FAT STORAGE. WEAR SOME MORE CLOTHING.

IF YOU'RE GETTING THE SHAKES AS A SEPARATE SYMPTOM, THAT'S DETOX. COULD BE FROM CAFFEINE.

OH YEA, AND REPLENISH YOUR MUSCLE GLYCOGEN AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK WITH STARCHY CARBS (RICE, SWEET POTATOES, YAMS, ETC.). YOU'LL FEEL MUCH BETTER AT THE GYM.

My head just got really "full" all of a sudden. I've been dry fasting for almost 2 days? Would I still get fast weight loss if I switched to drinking snake juice right now?

i have the shakes AND feeling cold but thats usually on day 3 when i cant do shit
so on my refeed i can eat a lot of rice?

>i have the shakes AND feeling cold but thats usually on day 3 when i cant do shit
COULD BE DETOX THEN. TRY PUSHING TO 96 ONE DAY TO SEE IF YOU STILL HAVE THE SHAKES.
>so on my refeed i can eat a lot of rice?
ON ONE REFEED IN THE WEEK, EAT RICE + PROTEIN (NO FAT).

>TRY PUSHING TO 96
the thing is, when i feel like that i cant even walk so i would be missing uni and i cant right now, OME3D seems just fine, and i feel improvement, i still look the same on the mirror but feel better and clothes are feeling saggy now

ALRIGHT, TRY THE STARCHY CARB REFEED TO SEE IF IT STOPS THE SHAKES. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE CAUSE IS, MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD KNOW.

KEEP UP THE OME3D THOUGH, THAT ROUTINE IS GOLD.

WHY AM I SO FUCKING PISSED OFF ALL THE TIME I GO THROUGH A PROLONGED FAST LIKE FUCK WHY DO I HAVE TO GET ENGULFED IN RAGE EVERY TIME I ATTEMPT AND THEN BINGE MY WAY BACK TO WHERE I STARTED 3 DAYS PRIOR FUUUUUCK

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Wow, that's some shit ass advice.

thanks caps user, im really happy i started fasting, its ridicious the amount of progress you can make in a such low ammount of time, and i think and you may have told me before maybe its because i havent drinking the correct snake juice, in that fast i was sipping water with salt only, also quick question, will smoking break my fast?

Don't stop at 3 days fucknut that is when it is smooth sailing. You can fast as easily for 10 days as 3.

I miss grandpa OMAW

How do I break a dry fast?
Last week got constipation and wicked gas.

I EXPERIENCED UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE ON MY FIRST PROLONGED FAST.
IT'S HORMONES NORMALIZING, SPECIFICALLY TESTOSTERONE THAT WAS ROBBED FROM EATING MULTIPLE MEALS A DAY. I TRIED TO CHANNEL MY ANGER THROUGH RELEARNING EVERYTHING I HAD THOUGHT I KNEW ABOUT DIET & NUTRITION, HELPED A GOOD DEAL.

YEA FASTING IS ALMOST UNREAL, YET WHEN YOU DO IT AND THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S REALLY NOT THAT FAR-FETCHED.
SMOKING WILL NOT BREAK YOUR FAST BUT THE PROBLEMS THEY NORMALLY CAUSE WILL BE HEIGHTENED. THE SHAKES MIGHT ACTUALLY BE FROM NICOTINE WITHDRAWALS.

FOR DRY FASTS 96H+, SIP 1L + 1 TSP OF BAKING SODA OR USE THE SNAKE JUICE RECIPE IN OP. AFTER YOU'RE DONE SIPPING THAT, EASE IN TO A REFEED WITH FRUITS LIKE WATERMELON, CUCUMBER, AND/OR COCONUT WATER.

I have done barely any physical activity since I started dry fasting two days ago, am I going to no longer be able to push up the bar by the end of this?

>21 y/o, 5'10, 78kg
>beginner/intermediate border

Doing a 2-day fast. Will do a 5 day fast after this

How long should I wait between these fasts?

Is my dentist appointment tomorrow going to break my fast?

Only if you swallow while knocked out.

Coming from a 0 carb diet, how long of a fast would it take to drop 14lb? That'd get me to 12% bodyfat.

Okay, well it's just these past two days dry fasting have been miserable and I don't really want to go do another two days dry fasting just to get ketosis. I want to get on the snake juice eventually.

3500 cals in 1 pound of fat. you burn your tdee each day

no. of days = 14*3500/tdee

HOW LONG YOU TRYING TO DRY FAST?
DON'T PUSH ANY FUCKING BAR ON A LONG DRY FAST, ESPECIALLY CHOCOLATE BARS.

YOU CAN REFEED AND GO STRAIGHT IN TO A 5 DAY. YOU CAN DO SOME PREP IF YOU WANT, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

THE LEANER YOU GET THE HARDER IT BECOMES. SO IF YOU WERE TO DO A STRAIGHT PROLONGED FAST TO GET TO 12%, IT COULD BE AROUND TWO WEEKS. YOU CAN DO 96S OR 72S TO REACH THERE, BUT OF COURSE IT'D TAKE LONGER.

IF YOU'RE NOT HUGELY OBESE AND DIABETIC, IT'S LIKELY YOU'RE ALREADY IN KETOSIS. HOWEVER, IF YOU CAN DRY FAST LONGER, DO IT. DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING AT THE DENTIST OR HOW MUCH THE DENTIST WILL CUM IN YOUR MOUTH WHILE YOU SLEEP, SWITCH TO SNAKE JUICE WHEN YOU ABSOLUTELY FEEL LIKE IT.

what kind of prep do you mean?

Dry fasting is as long as possible, but I suppose 3 days minimum, unless I can't walk.

Can you please get a trip code so I can filter your stupid ass

I need this! I need to go down from 260 to 200 ASAP
my health is in tatters

Based Caps Bro some advice please

I'm 28, 5'11 and 230 lbs. I bench 185, OHP 100, squat 2pl8, diddly 2.5 pl8, and have a serious amount of fat on my gut. Is fasting my best way to lose the weight with minimal lose skin? How should I do it? Just snake juice fast until i'm not fat in a month? I went to the gym consistently throughout 2018 except for 2 1 month stretches where i fell off between quarters 1 and 2 and quarters 3 and 4. Can I still lift while fasting? Cardio only? Will I shed alot of muscle?

Also based Caps Poster, once I break fast, how bad is the binge eating rebound?

will a 30kj mineral water end a fast?

Yes fasting is god. If you're new to this I recommend doing intermittent fasting, then omad then try longer multiple day fasts.

I lifted on day 3 of fast and it was great. maintained intensity but only did 2 sets instead of 3. You will need time to get used to burning fat for energy.
Muscle loss can be avoided by lifting and maintaining intensity but you might lose 10% gains at most.

after you end fast act as if the fast didnt happen. If you binge eat it defeats the purpose of the fast. No amount of fasting will help binge eatin (wrong mindset!)

I was in kinda your situation and I've decided losing fat is more important to me than my lift numbers. I just wanna look good and ripped shirtless, whats your goal?

no. around 20cals break a fast. Avoid artificla sweeteners because they spike insulin

Does eating pussy break your fast??

on 43 hr mark of dry fast.. why do my body temperature rise up?

JUST EATING A BUNCH OF FRUIT AND FOOD.

GOOD! GOOD LUCK WITH IT, DRY FASTING IS HARDCORE AS FUCK.

PROLONGED FASTS WITH SNAKE JUICE AND A SET OF BALLS.

THIS user IS RIGHT.
MY INPUT: @ 230 POUNDS, YOU CAN BUST STRAIGHT IN TO A PROLONGED FAST. I SHARE PRETTY MUCH YOUR SAME LIFT NUMBERS AND YOU'LL LOSE LIKE 5-10% OF YOUR LIFTS IF YOU DO A 7 DAY FAST, REGAINING THEM IN A WEEK.
LOOSE SKIN IS A WHOLE OTHER ISSUE, AND YOU MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE ANY IF YOUR MAX WEIGHT IS 230. LOOSE SKIN IS DETERMINED BY GENETICS AND HOW LONG YOUR SKIN HAS STRETCHED FOR BEING FAT FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME. FOR REFERENCE, I WAS 285 FOR 5+ YEARS AND I HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF LOOSE SKIN. CURRENTLY TRYING A DRY FASTING ROUTINE TO SEE IF IT'LL FIX SOME OF IT.
>Can I still lift while fasting?
ON SNAKE JUICE, YES.
>Will I shed alot of muscle?
A BIT, BUT NOT A LOT, ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO THE STANDARD MAINSTREAM CUT.
WHAT I DID RECENTLY WAS DO A TINY OMAD BULK, PUSH HARD AS FUCK AT THE GYM, THEN SCHEDULE A 'RECOVERY WEEK' AS A PROLONGED FAST. AGAIN, THOUGH, YOU CAN ALWAYS JUMP RIGHT IN TO IT OR DO OMAD, OMEOD, OR OME3D.

ALRIGHT I'M GOING TO SLEEP

Is Pocari Sweat a good alternative for snake juice? They're on sales at my place right now

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Based Jow Forums posters
Love u guys
Were all gonna make it

finally found some pottasium salt in my third world country, it's also called "light salt" and comes 50/50 or so with regular salt, so i'm not going today folks

to die*

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No, you can make snake juice for like 2 cents a liter. Also calories

So with dry fasting you drink NOTHING? not even snake juice?

>18 years old
>180lbs
>5’10

How long would I have to water fast (no snake juice) to die if I theoretically wanted to commit suicide by fasting

Also, I can’t do 15 push ups. What would the consequences of being sedentary while fasting be?

yes. theres hard dry fast where you dont even make contact with water

pls seek help
dont be sedentary during fasts, leads to muscle atrophy. david blaine was cooped up in a box and was fasting and suffered greatly. But people who fast sensibly are very energetic

>ingredients: water, sugar
stopped reading there

Still curious

what the hell do i when hunger is keeping me awake

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I wonder how I'm going to gain weight once I get down to 180-160ish. I don't want to have to rely on gear if I don't have to, but my testosterone is really low, and I want to hit at least 200 all muscle.

I've tried fasting 3 times now and everytime I get a bad rash in the my belly, low back and buttcheeks, what does it mean and how can i make it stop? Is it due to weak immune system during fast?

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30601864
add this to the sticky faggots

No

Where do you live that measures kj?

eat calorie dense foods like nuts and peanut butter

may be unrelated. Dont know for sure

Day 2 of a hard dry fast and I just had the best sleep I've had so far. Which was outstanding. Weighed myself before bed at 103kg, woke about 15m ago and down at 102.1kg, I'm still amazed at how often I need to piss.

Do shit instead of sleeping

I’ve heard of people getting rash from keto diets, it might be related to this. Do you normally eat a lot of carbs?

I have the same problem but I can't sleep because of the amount of extra energy I have when running on ketones, not the hunger. I usually just read until I fall asleep, could maybe work for you too.

It's usually from too much omega 6 and not enough 3, very rarely just the ketones.

If the rash is from just fasting it could be the stress of starting fasting. Some people even have their hair thin out from fasting at first.

Also as always could just be unrelated, go to a dermatologist if it persists, they can tell where it comes from based on the pattern and texture.

>quick question, will smoking break my fast?
are you planning to eat the cigarette?

If short term fasting, nicotine, not even kidding. Either tablets or a vape. Whenever I feel hunger or an urge to eat I have a little and it completely kills any hunger or cravings. I only have around 15lb to lose though, so not a big deal.

>doing OMAD (little carbs)
>about 70kg, 180cm, 15% BF
>running GSLP (novice-intermediate lifts)

I was gaining strength while losing weight and getting leaner, but now all of my progress stopped. I know that I'm going to lose strength if I eat less, and get fat again if I eat more. Wat do? My aim is to lose more fat and get stronger.

Asking again:

How long can I fast on just water before literally dying/being hospitalized

Straight up extended fast to desired bf%, it won't take long at all, then bulk. 15% is the max you wanna be at the end of a bulk, so you should cut.

I eat moderate to high protein keto omad or 18:6 with zero carbs on gym days and fast or dry fast all rest days. Stopped my plateauing right up.

How lean do you want to go? 15% is quite good already and the lower you go the more effort it will take to stay there. 10% is a realistic minimum if you don't want your life to be just about maintaining your current physique.

No one is answering because it's a fucking stupid question. Drink your fucking snake juice.

I would say probably a week is the max for water-only. If you included other liquids that had electrolytes, you could go longer. Many anorexics end up with lifelong heart damage though from low electrolytes (especially potassium) so that’s something to consider

you'll faint much before dying, and depends on your body it could be weeks, just lick some salt faggot

Depends a lot on your diet before you fast. Could be 7-10 days if your diet was low-salt and low-potassium. Could be almost 20 days if you we're high-salt, high-potassium. Also depends on how much you have fasted before and how fat you are. A season faster can dry fast a week or more, but a beginner might go to the hospital from water fasting that same time without salts, also fat and muscular people can make it much longer since they have the fat or muscle tissue to store the nutrients, again assuming you got them from your diet before fasting.

You probably won't really die in either case but you will start passing out which is a risk factor for being hospitalized if anyone sees you.

Either way you'll want to kill yourself at about day 7 if you don't supplement salt and aren't in some way exceptional at fasting.

At least down to 12% because I've been fat all my life and I believe it fucked up my fat distribution. I'm alright with bouncing between 12-15 after that. I eat a lot more fat recently because it's tastier, maybe that's the culprit.
Probably correct, I have about 3kg to my target anyway.

If it's 3kg just fast or dry fast and see if your old routine maintains after that. Fast until you lose like 5-6kg and you'll be left with the 3kg fat loss when you go back to eating.

Can I just chug the whole snake juice in one sitting? doing intermittent etc

I mean im doing intermittent dry fasting, can I just drink the whole snake juice in one sitting?

You can try. You'll probably get diarrhea though. At that point I'd just eat the salts, wait a little and then drink some water to clean your mouth of the salts, either way it's Russian roulette with diarrhea town.